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INCEPTION |OT| Movie of the Forever

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mYm|17| said:
I liked it and so did a bunch of people in my theater that I saw it in last night. Somebody next to me was like "hell naw" :lol
My audience gasped and then after a few moments started applauding and the applause grew to a fairly impressive level before it died down. Yeah, the ending satisfies.
 
Solo said:
Er, what? harson wasn't confused by the end, nor was Ghaleon, and neither was I. Not liking ambiguity =/= confused :lol Nothing in this movie is confusing. There is far too much exposition to have the problem of confusing people.
Yup.
 
Why don't some people like ambiguity in movies? For me some of the greatest movies are the ones that don't spell everything out for the audience and leave something open for interpretation.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Why don't people like ambiguity in movies?

Ambiguity is fine. Many of my favorite movies are ambiguous (2001, hello!). I just happen to feel that it works for certain movies, and doesnt for others. My Inception experience was one that left me yearning for a solid conclusion. The emotional payoff feels incomplete, or keeping on-topic, in limbo.
 
I thought it was really good but not a classic. It's really clever and it had some of the best special effects and sound design I've ever seen. I really enjoyed it.
 
No homo but I was really digging the suits and overall clothes that Arthur and the rest of the characters were wearing. Great movie though. Went in without knowing anything about it.
 
GatorFan said:
No homo but I was really digging the suits and overall clothes that Arthur and the rest of the characters were wearing. Great movie though. Went in without knowing anything about it.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

But yes, a lot of the 'fits took me by surprise. I liked quite a few of them...
 
Gary Whitta said:
Why don't some people like ambiguity in movies? For me some of the greatest movies are the ones that don't spell everything out for the audience and leave something open for interpretation.
Not really. This one felt more like it was made ambiguous just for the sake of being ambiguous. It really didn't fit well with what happened.
 
shintoki said:
Not really. This one felt more like it was made ambiguous just for the sake of being ambiguous. It really didn't fit well with what happened.

The Sopranos' ending is ambiguous for the sake of being ambiguous.

Inception's ending being ambiguous couldn't have fit more perfectly with the rest of the film, and its theme of blurring the lines between dreams and reality.
 
Blader5489 said:
The Sopranos' ending is ambiguous for the sake of being ambiguous.

Inception's ending being ambiguous couldn't have fit more perfectly with the rest of the film, and its theme of blurring the lines between dreams and reality.
I'll say the opposite, the problem with this being ambiguous is because it is all about reality and dreams. Its like having a character killed off, then finding out it was a dream episode. Leaving this open meant that everything could have been real or none of it. I didn't feel that was a good way to leave the movie off where it can swing the entire movie depending on the interpretation.
 
Just got back... and WOW what a wild ride. I'm super surprised the movie ended that way, but I like that he left the audience wondering :)
 
Easy 10/10.
Saw it 3 times in last 4 days. Never do that with movies.

+ Loved the acting; one of the best ensemble casts in a while. Especially Hardy, JGL and Murphy.
+ Incredible visual effects that didn't rely on CGI aka one of the most intense fight sequences in a while.
+ Really breath-taking score that helps sustain the tension filled and the sadder scenes.
+ The elegance of the exposition. Never boring, the characters beautifully explain the rules of the film.
+ Some visually beautiful shots and most of all - a real emotional core
Fisher-dad relationship, Mal and Cobb
in a Nolan film!


- Tom Berenger. Sorry but I didn't like him in this.
- While the score is good, Nolan may have made it too intrusive and overused.
- The
mark and reason for the inception; dissolve a competitor's company
just didn't seem epic enough.
 
Inferno313 said:
No Homo, but I'd totally have a threesome with JGL and Hardy. :P

who wouldn't?


duckroll said:
Might be homo for Watanabe. He was hot.

pretty much everyone in this movie was stylish on a level that defies logic. When you see how Nolan dresses, you just accept that when you're in his zone, straight doesn't mean anything anymore. It is raw admiration for style and manliness happening.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Why don't some people like ambiguity in movies? For me some of the greatest movies are the ones that don't spell everything out for the audience and leave something open for interpretation.

I concur, and I thought Inception pulled it off beautifully. I love how the audience at my theater reacted to the end; there was this huge collective gasp of disbelief when the screen went black
with the top still spinning and wobbling oh-so-slightly
. It's been a while since I've been in an audience where everyone had such a strong reaction to the end of a film.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Why don't some people like ambiguity in movies? For me some of the greatest movies are the ones that don't spell everything out for the audience and leave something open for interpretation.

This was my take on ambiguity yesterday:

Eh, I'm not a big fan of ambiguity. It tends to feel like a cop out and it leaves much to be desired, not to mention the fact that it's a relatively exhausted method of conclusion. There are films where the narrative is ultimately better off without a proper ending, Amores Perros for example, but I don't think that's the case with Inception. Ambiguity done right tends to challenge you intellectually, and raise social or philosophical questions that are up to the viewer to ultimately interpret. Ambiguity in this case simply leaves the character's conclusion in question, and does very little outside of that unless you include the film's underlying theme, "dreams versus reality", which isn't that strong of a theme to begin with considering its impracticality within real world situations.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
+ Some visually beautiful shots and most of all - a real emotional core
Fisher-dad relationship, Mal and Cobb
in a Nolan film!
The father-son relationship leading up to the deathbed "Rosebud" moment left me cold even though I felt like it shouldn't because on paper it's a tremendously powerful emotional moment, but I think I figured out why. It's because we know it's fake. For Fischer it's absolutely real - as it needs to be in order for the con to work - but we know it's all just a construct, a piece of fiction designed to manipulate him. In fact we know that it's most probably opposite to the truth; that the dad never really loved him, thinks he's a disappointment etc. He never kept that windmill in his safe, it's all a lie. So the emotion doesn't land.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
Easy 10/10.
Saw it 3 times in last 4 days. Never do that with movies.

+ Loved the acting; one of the best ensemble casts in a while. Especially Hardy, JGL and Murphy.
+ Incredible visual effects that didn't rely on CGI aka one of the most intense fight sequences in a while.
+ Really breath-taking score that helps sustain the tension filled and the sadder scenes.
+ The elegance of the exposition. Never boring, the characters beautifully explain the rules of the film.
+ Some visually beautiful shots and most of all - a real emotional core
Fisher-dad relationship, Mal and Cobb
in a Nolan film!


- Tom Berenger. Sorry but I didn't like him in this.
- While the score is good, Nolan may have made it too intrusive and overused.
- The
mark and reason for the inception; dissolve a competitor's company
just didn't seem epic enough.

I just want to echo just about all of this--saw it again tonight, clears up a lot of questions.

Christ, Cillian
got me again with the ending :(

And I agree with your critiques. Some of Berenger's delivery is ALMOST laughable (nothing like BB/TDK, tho). There were a few times (I didn't notice the first time) where the score actually overpowers some of the dialogue
(mostly in the snow assault...I didn't realize that Cillian turned off his radio because of the static, and that's why he didn't get Cobb's warnings
).
 
Gary Whitta said:
The father-son relationship leading up to the deathbed "Rosebud" moment left me cold even though I felt like it shouldn't because on paper it's a tremendously powerful emotional moment, but I think I figured out why. It's because we know it's fake. For Fischer it's absolutely real - as it needs to be in order for the con to work - but we know it's all just a construct, a piece of fiction designed to manipulate him. In fact we know that it's most probably opposite to the truth; that the dad never really loved him, thinks he's a disappointment etc. He never kept that windmill in his safe, it's all a lie. So the emotion doesn't land.

Eh, I agree, but to an extent. The moment still hits me hard, because of Cillian's performance and all that is behind it. Realizing that it's all a lie, later, just makes it tragic, IMO. Not a bad thing, though.
 
Gary Whitta said:
The father-son relationship leading up to the deathbed "Rosebud" moment left me cold even though I felt like it shouldn't because on paper it's a tremendously powerful emotional moment, but I think I figured out why. It's because we know it's fake. For Fischer it's absolutely real - as it needs to be in order for the con to work - but we know it's all just a construct, a piece of fiction designed to manipulate him. In fact we know that it's most probably opposite to the truth; that the dad never really loved him, thinks he's a disappointment etc. He never kept that windmill in his safe, it's all a lie. So the emotion doesn't land.

That was by far the most emotional moment of the film for me.
 
Gary Whitta said:
The father-son relationship leading up to the deathbed "Rosebud" moment left me cold even though I felt like it shouldn't because on paper it's a tremendously powerful emotional moment, but I think I figured out why. It's because we know it's fake. For Fischer it's absolutely real - as it needs to be in order for the con to work - but we know it's all just a construct, a piece of fiction designed to manipulate him. In fact we know that it's most probably opposite to the truth; that the dad never really loved him, thinks he's a disappointment etc. He never kept that windmill in his safe, it's all a lie. So the emotion doesn't land.
I agree with you 100%.. the first time I saw it.
For some reason, the second time got me. I really do think it's Murphy's performance though.
 
Blader5489 said:
That was by far the most emotional moment of the film for me.

While I disagree, even in saying so, that's not much of an accomplishment. The only other contenders were
Mal's suicide and Cobb "reuniting" with his children.
 
Might be the best movie I've seen in a decade. Finally something with a decent budget that doesn't endlessly pander to the general public. There are a few films that hit me the right way and rekindle my love of cinema. Lost in Translation, Zodiac, No Country and now Inception are four from the past decade that pulled me out of a state of indifference. I hope the big studios take notice and follow in Nolan's footsteps.
 
kylej said:
Might be the best movie I've seen in a decade. Finally something with a decent budget that doesn't endlessly pander to the general public. There are a few films that hit me the right way and rekindle my love of cinema. Lost in Translation, Zodiac, No Country and now Inception are four from the past decade that pulled me out of a state of indifference. I hope the big studios take notice and follow in Nolan's footsteps.
Don't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling
 
kylej said:
Might be the best movie I've seen in a decade. Finally something with a decent budget that doesn't endlessly pander to the general public. There are a few films that hit me the right way and rekindle my love of cinema. Lost in Translation, Zodiac, No Country and now Inception are four from the past decade that pulled me out of a state of indifference. I hope the big studios take notice and follow in Nolan's footsteps.
I wouldn't get your hopes up, this was a pretty rare case of a film-maker getting to write his own ticket after delivering one of the biggest hits of all time. I wouldn't expect it to start a trend in big-budget original sci-fi film-making because Hollywood remains as risk-averse as it always has, if not moreso now than ever.
 
Nolan snuck into a screening of Inception this weekend....and it was shut down :lol

http://www.movieline.com/2010/07/in...n----with-christopher-nolan-in-attendance.php

If you’re Christopher Nolan and your film Inception is about to gross a $21 million Friday, wouldn’t you want to sneak into a theater to check out audience reaction? Unfortunately for Nolan, he chose the wrong screening last night.

According to one of our spies, the big show at Los Angeles’s Arclight Cinemas was shut down at the 100-minute mark after the air conditioning malfunctioned, turning the theater into a sweltering hotbox.

Spotted outside the theater were Chris Nolan and Dileep Rao looking really concerned about the whole situation. Both were working their phones furiously (while signing a few autographs) and appeared to head back towards the theater as we headed out to find another screen to watch the rest of the film.
 
Inferno313 said:
Isn't the Arclight supposed to be a really awesome theater?
It's fantastic, but if you go to the Dome which is the main theater be prepared for the screen to be in a weirdly concave shape that bends the image slightly.
 
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Blader5489 said:
I think BobsRevenge is having extraordinary difficulty with understanding the very concept of science fiction. :lol
Solaris is better science fiction than Inception.

Yeah, that's right. The fucking George Clooney version.
 
GatorFan said:
No homo but I was really digging the suits and overall clothes that Arthur and the rest of the characters were wearing. Great movie though. Went in without knowing anything about it.

JGL was hot in the movie.
 
shintoki said:
I'll say the opposite, the problem with this being ambiguous is because it is all about reality and dreams. Its like having a character killed off, then finding out it was a dream episode. Leaving this open meant that everything could have been real or none of it. I didn't feel that was a good way to leave the movie off where it can swing the entire movie depending on the interpretation.
Yeah that's not what the ending meant at all.
Everything in the film happened and was real. The ambiguity comes from whether or not Cobb escaped from Limbo the second time with Sato.

The movie was absolutely amazing. Easily my favorite of the year so far. Such a well executed story from start to finish.
 
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