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Index (Atlus) entering into a restructuring bankruptcy; looking to transfer/sell
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http://gematsu.com/2010/08/catherine-is-twenty-hours-long-has-multiple-endings
So it was about near the end of P4, then onto Catherine. My mistake.
the_sun_king
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Yeah, it was with P3's release that Atlus USA decided to brand the series under SMT.
Sseklebeast
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Actually, P2 was just Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, no Revelations anywhere.
I know. I didn't say it did. I was saying that EP didn't have the SMT logo on it.
NeonZ
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Even in Japan, the first Persona was called "Megami Ibunroku Persona" (Megami/Goddess Strange Tale Persona") and Persona 3 and 4 share designs with mainline Shin Megami Tensei. It's clearly connected, even without SMT in the title. I guess they slapped SMT in the title of the Western releases because it'd be an easier way to show the connection between them than the original rather odd title reference. Devil Survivor also had the same "Megami Ibunroku" title for its Japanese release and became another "Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor" in the West.
"SMT" might not be part of their title, but it's clear that, whether in Japan or the rest of the world, they are supposed to be under a single umbrella. The only difference is how they call bigger group, with the Western brand using Shin Megami Tensei for everything, while the Japanese use titles connected to the original "Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei" in various ways.
I stand corrected then. I either read a mistranslation of Hashino's P3P blog post or there was some contradiction because it clearly stated after, but having the games developed concurrently makes things far more interesting.
Or maybe "polishing up" kind of refers to the final touches, so the blog wasn't entirely incorrect when it stated that they started work after P4's development.
Poetic.Injustice
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Well when you have a surefire IP that would sell in the west why would you not want to try and sustain that?
Sseklebeast
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Oh, thought you were saying otherwise. Sorry
Dark Octave
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Should have bought your Atlus games new, folks.
lunchwithyuzo
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The DDS and Devil Summoner games all did under 50k too. On PS2, P3/4 were the only Atlus developed games to crack 100k.
On the other hand Trauma Center 2O ousold both P3 and P4 in the US and passed 200k (lol). Too bad the sequels bombed though.
Persona and Trauma Center their power
How does that matter when it is stated that Atlus was profitable and the reason for this whole thing going down is the company's other branches?
chertipros
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They did by expanding on the universes P3 and P4 through re releases and spin offs like Arena. And surefire IP? How much do you think persona sells in the west anyway?
Hecatonchires Custom
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Persona has been struggling before Trauma Center : Second Opinion came around.
lunchwithyuzo
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Revelations was planned as the original franchise branding for SMT over here. It only ever made it to 2 products though (Persona on PS, The Demon Slayer on GBC) before Atlus USA dropped it. Would've been 3 (Devil Summoner) had Atlus USA not killed their Saturn plans in mid 96.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Bought Catherine new, regular and Special Edition. Downloaded the fighting games from PS+ and have PS3 & VIta versions of Dragon's Crown pre-ordered.
Clearly, this means one thing.
Atlus needs to make more Trauma Center games.
Trauma Team bombed.
bobbychalkers
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Damn right....The Wii U gamepad is perfect for that series.
Sseklebeast
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Heh, I was hoping for english Soul Hackers back then when Gamefan teased that it was coming to the US. I always meant to get Revelations: Persona back when it first came out but couldn't afford it back then.
Oy, hoping SMT will be okay throughout all this.
What does it matter in this situation?
Trauma Team bombed.
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Can you imagine a 3DS trauma center?
Clearly, this means one thing.
Atlus needs to make more Trauma Center games.
Trauma Team bombed.
Very unfortunate that Trauma Team bombed. It's a pretty good game with a great soundtrack.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Atlus games are notorious for being hard to find after release. I don't think the used market was hurting them.
it's your fault they were run by crooks.
w1gglyjones
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It Atlus getting a new owner? Is that confirmed?
I can, and it's glorious.
It's unfortunate, but it is kinda Atlus' fault for milking that series.
See? A positive side to them not being able to make Persona games on time!
A Black Falcon
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If Atlus USA killed their Saturn plans in 1996, why did they release Lunacy in the US in 1997?
But yeah, it was odd how they started with Revelations, and then changed the name.
Internally, the persona series was a dud sales wise till 3 and 4. SMT was the bread and butter, and Atlus had a lot of franchises under the SMT label, even in japan.
In fact, when budgeting out for Digital Devil Saga, Nocturne, and P3, P3 received the smallest budget, and DDS was, at least internally, considered the game that was going to bridge the mainstream gap.
P3 was somewhat of an unexpected success for them.
In fact, when budgeting out for Digital Devil Saga, Nocturne, and P3, P3 received the smallest budget, and DDS was, at least internally, considered the game that was going to bridge the mainstream gap.
P3 was somewhat of an unexpected success for them.
I still believe Aeana will ban everyone that didn't buy Trauma Team.
It's only a matter of time.
that's sorta what index's plans are. new owner or new partner.
Oh junior
sonikokaruto
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Has Nintendo announced that they bought them?
cosmicblizzard
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May have been covered in the thread, but would development be frozen until this all gets sorted out? Or would they still continue to work under the impression being bought up wouldn't effect much on that side of things?
w1gglyjones
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That's what Index wants. If they don't get it and go bankrupt, Atlus IP might be sold individually?
No one's announced anything. The entire thread is speculation.
No, if anything, things should be going as usual until everything is done.
next week on direct
Hidden One
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If Microsoft buys atlas I'll cry...Same with Nintendo...I want Persona 5 so baaaaaaaaaaaad.
They've stated that the development of all previously announced titles of theirs will continue.
As for unannounced, aka Persona 5, I dunno. Did Saints Row 4's development continue during the THQ madness?
Xaero Gravity
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Damn, that's some shitty news. D:
I would think the show must go on. Back when Disney purchased Lucasfilm, apparently everyone just kept on working until Disney decided what they would do with the parts.
bobbychalkers
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Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Saints Row 4 was originally a DLC expansion for Saints Row 3, so I'd wager they were pretty far along once THQ started going down the toilet. I doubt they stopped development. Hell, they may have even been done or very close to it around that time.
Definitely didn't stop.
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