Where else would M1 make sense?Uh, so apple thingy vs apple thingy. I get it now.
They are into ARM CPUs for longer than a decade.
Like for like, the only way to attach "impressive" to it is in conjunction with "for an ARM CPU".
I realize it still might make a huge difference to people within the walled garden.
Oh, I was about non ARM CPUs and they would make sense in... any notebook.Where else would M1 make sense?
I actually do have experience with research papers, but only since windows 7. Windows 10 seems better in every way.
Why would you use a track pad for productivity?
How are the virtual desktops better?
Resale is irrelevant when you pay twice as much for the same hardware.
well, all I know is I can sell my 8 year old laptop for 1/3 to 1/4 of what I paid and put it forward towards another purchase
and I like that. Regardless of whatever the reasons are.
But that's not a proof of its value as a computer, it's proof of the distorted market Apple creates as a result of their practices.
or why their battery wont charge properly and you have to send it off to apple for a $700 out of warranty battery replacement...its part of the apple experience as once guy was telling me after paying almost new price on a 2nd hand 4 year old macbook pro 17inch that was supposedly max spec....he ended up paying more to get a second hand mac and the battery fixed then he would of buying the new model brand new
and even then my max mini m1 still beats it on the apps that we use together.
If you have a low budget you can always try out this instead of buying a used Mac.
That sounds pretty expensive for a battery repair/replacement considering Apple themselves charges a max of $199 on the Macbook Pros that have their batteries stuck in with adhesive. For that $199 they replace the whole topcase which includes the battery and keyboard, so you get a new keyboard along with the battery.Apples fight to make the devices not fixable by anyone outside of their own licensed techs is a shitty practice and should not be celebrated
likewise idiots that try and flog off their old technology at new or close to new prices
i love apple products but there are certainly a deluded bunch of people who think that a 4 or 5 year old device can be sold at near new prices and the special people that buy at these prices and wonder why they are having problems running the latest version of photoshop/after effects
or why their battery wont charge properly and you have to send it off to apple for a $700 out of warranty battery replacement...its part of the apple experience as once guy was telling me after paying almost new price on a 2nd hand 4 year old macbook pro 17inch that was supposedly max spec....he ended up paying more to get a second hand mac and the battery fixed then he would of buying the new model brand new
and even then my max mini m1 still beats it on the apps that we use together.
3 Golden rules
- Never buy a second hand apple product thats out of warranty
- Never pay more than half it was brand new
- Your device will be outdated within 6 months
Sorry, I forgot I worked at a small business 5-6 years ago that originally had really cheap Dell PCs that the owner screwed up doing God knows what with quickbooks, blamed windows then bought Macs. He was all apple "iT jUsT wOrKs", but that's because having the ability to change things or a second mouse button was too much for him. Funny enough I had one of those cheap Intels and mine never got screwed up... Fortunately I got to stay on PC while I worked there.
I should say, I haven't seen any serious businesses running anything other than Windows PCs. Small shops where people have funny hair colors not withstanding.
XP was great. I've never had that issue with it back in the day.
Windows 10 boots for me in 5 seconds.
it doesn’t matter. I paid 1350 CAD at the time for it and i can sell it for around 500-600 now used.
I don’t care about the semantics or lack of proof or whatever distorted market has been created. As a consumer that “distorted” market benefits me if I can sell an 8 year old
Laptop for that much
comparatively, that’s about the going price from my 2018 xps 2 in 1 locally as well if I were to sell it, and that one cost me similarly (and on sale to boot)
What the ....
So when you start as an engineer at Google you get to pick if you want a Mac or a Linux machine. No Windows offered. I'd call Google a "serious business."
In my experience, the more serious the business the less likely you are to use Windows in fact. It's a liability, not an asset, unless you NEED Windows only software. But for people in the software engineering world like myself, you really don't want to use it (unless you're making games).
All the programmers I know use windows and linux.What the ....
So when you start as an engineer at Google you get to pick if you want a Mac or a Linux machine. No Windows offered. I'd call Google a "serious business."
In my experience, the more serious the business the less likely you are to use Windows in fact. It's a liability, not an asset, unless you NEED Windows only software. But for people in the software engineering world like myself, you really don't want to use it (unless you're making games).
They are not and it's honestly not a fight they can win as people will always come up with ways to do it. Maybe the latest one is, but older models are definitely repairable.Not to mention that because their laptops are essentially unrepairable
What do you mean by serious business then?Not what i meant by serious business though.
Apple always gets stuff like this. Multiple Android manufacturers feel the need to take digs at them in ads, and now Intel is butthurt that Apple designed their own chips which are better and don't need them anymore. Plus AMD have the better desktop/mobile PC chips now too.Intel® Core™ Processors, FPGAs, GPUs, Networking, Software
Browse Intel product information for Intel® Core™ processors, Intel® Xeon® processors, Intel® Arc™ graphics and more.www.intel.com
PC vs. Mac
In the real-world, a PC with an 11th Gen Intel® Core™ mobile processor offers users more and we’ve got real research and test results that prove it. Many Apple M1 claims don’t translate to real-world usage and appear questionable. When compared to a PC with the 11th Gen Intel® Core™ mobile processor, the M1 MacBook features just don’t stack up
Everything Just Works
A PC is built for the user. They can run whatever software and games users want to run and accommodate all plug-ins you love. The possibilities are endless with a PC versus Apple’s rigidly controlled walled garden
They are not and it's honestly not a fight they can win as people will always come up with ways to do it. Maybe the latest one is, but older models are definitely repairable.
Don't get me wrong, it is a shitty practice, just saying they are not unrepairable.Oh, they’re getting craftier with each new model.
Anyway.
I never heard this, but if true I have a feeling that this is more a case of the fact that OS X is essentially Unix with a pretty front end and googles competition with ms more than google valuing macs as a legitimate development platform on its own merits.What the ....
So when you start as an engineer at Google you get to pick if you want a Mac or a Linux machine. No Windows offered. I'd call Google a "serious business."
In my experience, the more serious the business the less likely you are to use Windows in fact. It's a liability, not an asset, unless you NEED Windows only software. But for people in the software engineering world like myself, you really don't want to use it (unless you're making games).
Easy i game on console. I’ve never gamed on pc. You can load whatever you want on a Mac you don’t have to load from their store. You can also run windows while you’re running OS X at the same time. Win for everyone. Why do pc fans have trouble understanding this?How can you be a gamer and love a macbook? You can't play games besides their store apps. You can't mess with settings, mods, install old software. They ban apps they don't like from their stores and there is no sideloading.
Yep, that article mentions they're partners.What do you mean by serious business then?
Anyway, what about IBM? They use Mac too.
Latest IBM Study Confirms Apple's Mac Are Better Than Windows In IT Workplace
IBM has published its latest study that focused on the benefits of using Apple products in enterprise IT.www.ibtimes.com
They used to be big competitors though.Yep, that article mentions they're partners.
This is probably meant as a joke, but you can plug in any external mouse and right-click should work right away.You guys convinced me, I'm going to buy a Mac for python and node. Do macs have a right click yet?
Intel doesn't disclose how much money it generates from Macs, but UBS analyst Timothy Arcuri estimates Apple only accounts for 2%-3% of Intel's annual sales, or $1.5 billion to $2.3 billion of its trailing 12-month revenue.
Only back when IBM made PCs. That hasn't been the case in a long time now.They used to be big competitors though.
This is probably meant as a joke, but you can plug in any external mouse and right-click should work right away.
I don't remember how it was with MacOS before X, but MacOSX has supported buttons with secondary buttons for 20 years now.Only back when IBM made PCs. That hasn't been the case in a long time now.
It was a bit of a joke, but I didn't know if osx supported a right click. Last I used a Mac was 3-4 years ago and I remember you had to hold some button and click.
oh cheers, haha, but yeah, there are several ways of doing it. My preferred method when working on a Macbook is just using two fingers to tap. Definitely activate tap to click through. It always drives me crazy when people make hard clicks on a touchpad. I've never used Apple's own mouse, so I don't know about that, but as said any external mouse with left and right-click buttons should do the job.It was a bit of a joke, but I didn't know if osx supported a right click. Last I used a Mac was 3-4 years ago and I remember you had to hold some button and click.
I don't remember how it was with MacOS before X, but MacOSX has supported buttons with secondary buttons for 20 years now.
The thing is Apple themselves, didn't make them until the Mighty Mouse came along in 2006, so you had to hold ctrl then click on whatever you wanted to trigger it.
And, on laptops, second click is tied to either using gestures (two finger clicking), or using the old ctrl+mouse-click trick - not very intuitive for non-mac users and depending on how it was set up the two finger gesture can be disabled.
what is more intuitive about doing those tricks over just...pushing a different button?oh cheers, haha, but yeah, there are several ways of doing it. My preferred method when working on a Macbook is just using two fingers to tap. Definitely activate tap to click through. It always drives me crazy when people make hard clicks on a touchpad. I've never used Apple's own mouse, so I don't know about that, but as said any external mouse with left and right-click buttons should do the job.
Two-finger clicking isn't exactly a trick. You just do it and it works completely fine. I don't get it, because it just a matter of getting used to.what is more intuitive about doing those tricks over just...pushing a different button?
It's not, but this is Apple, they kept a horrible keyboard 4 years just because they wanted to prove a point. They ultimately gave up on the buttlerfly system but kept that horrible emoji bar on the so called "pro models". At some point it might disappear from the lineup and they'll act like it never happened.what is more intuitive about doing those tricks over just...pushing a different button?
that honestly sounds like a terrible input. no wonder your habits are warped. I wouldn't use a touchpad to operate a web browser or OS interface either. even good ones are awful, cramped, and don't allow for comfortable shoulder positioning(Similar to a controller, honestly. having your hands anchored down in front of you and tied down to that one point for hours? Glad I don't use those often).Two-finger clicking isn't exactly a trick. You just do it and it works completely fine. I don't get it, because it just a matter of getting used to.
I mean, I guess for games like FPS, for example, it can be a hassle, but thing is, I wouldn't play an FPS with a touchpad, to begin with.
And gaming on a Mac isn't the greatest thing (although my 2015 Macbook Pro runs emulation up to Gamecube/Wii surprisingly well) either.
yeeesh @_@It's not, but this is Apple, they kept a horrible keyboard 4 years just because they wanted to prove a point. They ultimately gave up on the buttlerfly system but kept that horrible emoji bar on the so called "pro models". At some point it might disappear from the lineup and they'll act like it never happened.
Speaking of never happened, I give mac intel machines 3 years support maximum if they are quad core and really recent, and this with lots of bugs and bad support complaints.
Usually when they have to concede defeat they just implement the thing they didn't want to and don't say much about it - they'll only say talk about it if they can make it seem like they invented/advanced/revolutioned it. Salty, you might say.
With that mighty mouse I linked to they pulled the worlds worst scroll wheel/ball thingy. Comically, the issues with it are actually similar with the joycon joystick problems the designs are similar believe it or not. And the results as well. They did it because they wanted to claim they were doing vertical and horizontal scroll, because they didn't want to concede that the vertical wheel was useful in itself.
I am very used to it and feel comfy with it. Macbooks tend to have some of the best touchpads and it was very easy to adapt for me, to be honest. The only thing I needed to change was activating tap to click. I just use my index- and middle finger. Scrolling and navigating with the touchpad does feel very intuitive. It's really not as bad as it sounds. The same thing goes for controllers, I feel completely comfy with most of them, the only exception was the Switch, my hands started to tingle when playing too long in handheld mode. Also, when you are in bed or on a couch (or generally in a comfy position), do you really want to get the mouse out? Idk about that. When working on a desk I prefer using a mouse too though, so there is that.that honestly sounds like a terrible input.
that's my primary arrangement. I haven't used my desk in a long time. my arms hate not being able to move freely. Especially if they're held down to my waist and not free to move around for some reason.I am very used to it and feel comfy with it. Macbooks tend to have some of the best touchpads and it was very easy to adapt for me, to be honest. The only thing I needed to change was activating tap to click. I just use my index- and middle finger. Scrolling and navigating with the touchpad does feel very intuitive. It's really not as bad as it sounds. The same thing goes for controllers, I feel completely comfy with most of them, the only exception was the Switch, my hands started to tingle when playing too long in handheld mode. Also, when you are in bed or on a couch (or generally in a comfy position), do you really want to get the mouse out? Idk about that. When working on a desk I prefer using a mouse too though, so there is that.
I don't think this applies as much as it used to.People wanted and asked for an alternative to PC and they got Apple now their wallets are getting ass whoop’ns every year.
Well, experiment and do what works best for you. That's always a good way of doing things.that's my primary arrangement. I haven't used my desk in a long time. my arms hate not being able to move freely. Especially if they're held down to my waist and not free to move around for some reason.
I had one of these 2-in-1 notebooks (both notebook and tablet), I think it was around 350€ and it was easily the worst piece of shit I have ever witnessed. After 2 weeks of use, it only worked when it felt like it, and changing from tablet mode to notebook mode (and vice versa) became a nightmare. Also, slow as a motherfucker.Yeah you can grab a cheap $500 laptop but the build quality and performance won't be there.
I feel you on that. In my case, it's shoulder injuries. some granny doped up on dieting pills ran me over while I was out jogging in 2015. Granted, I had this opinion before that(preferring to have my arms spread out and rather hooked on the whole feeling of multitasking as I literally spread my attention across so many things) but the injuries have just made it something where I had to get into a groove of compromising on far less often.Well, experiment and do what works best for you. That's always a good way of doing things.
And I feel you on this, this whole covid lockdown thingie has completely changed my sleeping cycle and some of my habits. Some positive, some negative. Working in bed all day is kinda nice, but I miss getting out of bed full of energy and getting to work. It's not like being lazy is an option for me and I am certainly not, but it's just weird... weird, because on the surface it seems like you let yourself go. I guess I am just not used to having all this comfort at all times. I am used to getting out of the comfort zone regularly. This whole situation is just so sloppy for me.
Oh shit, that sounds bad. Granted, a doped-up granny running you over isn't something that happens every day. Sounds like a joke from South Park, haha.I feel you on that. In my case, it's shoulder injuries. some granny doped up on dieting pills ran me over while I was out jogging in 2015. Granted, I had this opinion before that(preferring to have my arms spread out and rather hooked on the whole feeling of multitasking as I literally spread my attention across so many things) but the injuries have just made it something where I had to get into a groove of compromising on far less often.
I use a controller to game from time to time. But I also tab out or have a second monitor and/or do something on it constantly, so I'm not just sitting there with nothing else going on.
what're you wanting to do with it?Oh shit, that sounds bad. Granted, a doped-up granny running you over isn't something that happens every day. Sounds like a joke from South Park, haha.
For real though, if you have to do fewer compromises and it's working for you then that's definitely a plus, isn't it?
I used to have my Xbox connected to my second monitor, but it kinda hampered my productivity so now I game only in the living room.
I want to build a small but powerful PC for the living room sooner or later and maybe get one of those Steam Controllers or a decent mouse & keyboard setup.
I want a console-like experience (system turning on when pressing the home button on the controller, easy-to-use interface, etc.) but with access to my steam library, gog, emulators, and all that, just for the living room instead of my working space. A gaming PC for the living room basically.what're you wanting to do with it?
outside of the first one(I only say that because I don't really use that sort of controller function so not familiar. can probably just keep it in sleep mode most of the time tho), the rest is pretty easy to pull off. especially with how many good emualtor projects JUST got their big breakthroughs in the last 2 years.I want a console-like experience (system turning on when pressing the home button on the controller, easy-to-use interface, etc.) but with access to my steam library, gog, emulators, and all that, just for the living room instead of my working space. A gaming PC for the living room basically.
You can do that with Steams "Big Picture", except for use it to turn the pc on. I use a PS4 controller as a remote even when not playing games. Such as using youtube on my tv (to block ads). It works pretty well.I want a console-like experience (system turning on when pressing the home button on the controller, easy-to-use interface, etc.) but with access to my steam library, gog, emulators, and all that, just for the living room instead of my working space. A gaming PC for the living room basically.