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[Atraveller]

Theory my 14 year old cousin came up with as he read up on black holes and wormholes before he saw it with me:


Black holes are gateways to another universe or another dimension:

He says there are 3 scenarios

1. Before the wormhole scenario happened. earth was dying and there was no plan A or plan B. a scientist like Dr Brand or Brand himself created 1 plan to get people off this earth into the ship we see at the end of the movie. It travels far and humans evolve into beings which are call upon the 5th dimension, something happens in the future that they believe its better for the past to get saved and put onto the planet like Hathaway as their past for a better future.

2. The black hole is another dimension which is another scientific theory, an alternate reality. the humans in that reality have an earth which thrives and is not dying. they evolve to an extent that they can call upon the fifth dimension and also open wormholes, of course due to event horizon they themselves cannot get past the black hole but they can send a wormhole close enough for human contact. its their way of saving their alternative lives where they see coop as the pilot to drive them to the planet and murph to launch the ship

3. the humans are moving underground in the movie. they like in planet of the apes evolve to an extent they see they can save humanity by opening a black hole and a wormhole to shift humanity from its past to a better future where they are not bound under the earth but where they can see sunlight and thrive.

I'd like to think it's just like Terminator, John Connor sent Kyle Reese back, and put everything in motion that led to his present.

Human survives through Dr. Brand's colony and Murph's space station, and after god knows how many years later, they became extremely advanced and put those wormholes there. It's like a closed loop, all pieced together, and as long as it's logical, the timeline can exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox

 

[Anton Sugar]

Really looking forward to Kip Thorne's "Science of Interstellar" book. A lot of these concepts are over my head, but I didn't find that really detracted too much from my enjoyment.

 

[Unbound By Death]

I'd like to think it's just like Terminator, John Connor sent Kyle Reese back, and put everything in motion that led to his present.

Human survives through Dr. Brand's colony and Murph's space station, and after god knows how many years later, they became extremely advanced and put those wormholes there. It's like a closed loop, all pieced together, and as long as it's logical, the timeline can exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox

Exactly

 

[Cse]

The film wanted us to take its scientific offerings seriously. It made genuine attempts to come across as scientifically accurate. Every single time there was a shot of space with zero sound, it was an overt reminder that the film wanted its science to be taken seriously - and yet there is so much of it that is laughably wrong.

Science aside, though, and there are other glaring problems. Brand's monologue about love was cringe inducing. I mean, I honestly struggle to think how anyone could piece together such a lame, fake string of words - and yet this somehow made in into the final script.

Worst of all, however, was how Cooper abandoned his drive throughout the entire film - his desire to reunite with his daughter. He literally said something to the effect of, "We can't worry about relativity at this point" and decided to basically commit what he thought would be suicide by entering the black hole. Throughout the whole film, the message that was conveyed by Cooper's character is that he'll come back, and his character showed that he wanted to go back. Yet, at the end, he basically just said, "screw it", and threw himself into the black hole.

Even worse, at the end, he is finally reunited with his daughter, and he literally spends <90 seconds with her. Not only that, he didn't even look at his grandkids. Nothing. After all of this, he spends just a minute or so with his daughter and then leaves. The film tried to be emotionally persuasive throughout its entirety, yet the end is incredibly brief and emotionally hollow.

 

[Maninthemirror]

The film wanted us to take its scientific offerings seriously. It made genuine attempts to come across as scientifically accurate. Every single time there was a shot of space with zero sound, it was an overt reminder that the film wanted its science to be taken seriously - and yet there is so much of it that is laughably wrong.

Science aside, though, and there are other glaring problems. Brand's monologue about love was cringe inducing. I mean, I honestly struggle to think how anyone could piece together such a lame, fake string of words - and yet this somehow made in into the final script.

Worst of all, however, was how Cooper abandoned his drive throughout the entire film - his desire to reunite with his daughter. He literally said something to the effect of, "We can't worry about relativity at this point" and decided to basically commit what he thought would be suicide by entering the black hole. Throughout the whole film, the message that was conveyed by Cooper's character is that he'll come back, and his character showed that he wanted to go back. Yet, at the end, he basically just said, "screw it", and threw himself into the black hole.

Even worse, at the end, he is finally reunited with his daughter, and he literally spends <90 seconds with her. Not only that, he didn't even look at his grandkids. Nothing. After all of this, he spends just a minute or so with his daughter and then leaves. The film tried to be emotionally persuasive throughout its entirety, yet the end is incredibly brief and emotionally hollow.

did the you miss the part where he ONLY wanted to get back to his daughter once after he found out there seemed no plausible way to colonise other planets? The ending is pretty simple. he wasnt from this time. he got back but she had moved on after being 100 years old or so. she just wanted to see him once but didnt want him to see her die. it was right there in the movie, she wanted him to be with the people from his time, hathaways generation

 

[Unbound By Death]

There definitely was something "off" for me for Dr. Mann. Not sure what it was--it didn't necessarily feel bad, but there was something awkward about the turn his character took and how he acted. I think some of his dialogue was clunky.

His dialogue, and motive was weak thats why. His actions were too incoherent and abrupt.

I guess you could explain it, since he was kind of getting crazy all alone there thinking he was going to die. But still , it could have been done better.

 

[Cse]

did the you miss the part where he ONLY wanted to get back to his daughter once after he found out there seemed no plausible way to colonise other planets?

I did. Then after they successfully docked with the Endurance, he developed his "screw it" attitude and decided to throw himself into the black hole. No emotion over never getting to see his daughter again...nothing.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Worst of all, however, was how Cooper abandoned his drive throughout the entire film - his desire to reunite with his daughter. He literally said something to the effect of, "We can't worry about relativity at this point" and decided to basically commit what he thought would be suicide by entering the black hole. Throughout the whole film, the message that was conveyed by Cooper's character is that he'll come back, and his character showed that he wanted to go back. Yet, at the end, he basically just said, "screw it", and threw himself into the black hole.

I didn't get this at all. At that point, wasn't there pretty much no way for him to get back home in time to see his family? I thought they said they didn't have enough resources to get back to Earth?

Even worse, at the end, he is finally reunited with his daughter, and he literally spends <90 seconds with her. Not only that, he didn't even look at his grandkids. Nothing. After all of this, he spends just a minute or so with his daughter and then leaves. The film tried to be emotionally persuasive throughout its entirety, yet the end is incredibly brief and emotionally hollow.

I think this is kind of nitpicky. I read the ending as Murph, who reconciled her love/hate for her father DECADES ago, had lived a fulfilling life with a family she loved. She's on her last legs and she understands everything that her father went through and all the loss he experienced. She's all "get out there and do your thing".

Would I have liked a little more time with her? Yup. But I'm not really sure what I would have wanted them to discuss.

His dialogue, and motive was weak thats why. His actions were too incoherent and abrupt.

I guess you could explain it, since he was kind of getting crazy all alone there thinking he was going to die. But still , it could have been done better.

Yeah, as much as I hate to say it, I think this is it. It felt rushed.

 

[Cse]

There definitely was something "off" for me for Dr. Mann. Not sure what it was--it didn't necessarily feel bad, but there was something awkward about the turn his character took and how he acted. I think some of his dialogue was clunky.

He was more robotic than TARS and CASE.

 

[Maninthemirror]

I didn't get this at all. At that point, wasn't there pretty much no way for him to get back home in time to see his family? I thought they said they didn't have enough resources to get back to Earth?



I think this is kind of nitpicky. I read the ending as Murph, who reconciled her love/hate for her father DECADES ago, had lived a fulfilling life with a family she loved. She's on her last legs and she understands everything that her father went through and all the loss he experienced. She's all "get out there and do your thing".

Would I have liked a little more time with her? Yup. But I'm not really sure what I would have wanted them to discuss.

they didnt have resources for more than 1 person.

 

[molnizzle]

I never thought that I would see abstract concepts like string theory, quantum physics, and 4th/5th dimensional space be physically portrayed.
One of the rare, truly mind-blowing moments in cinema.

Indeed.

That's what makes this film great for me. Nolan shenanigans are wholly irrelevant.

Really looking forward to Kip Thorne's "Science of Interstellar" book.

Same here, my Kindle is ready.

 

[Maninthemirror]

I did. Then after they successfully docked with the Endurance, he developed his "screw it" attitude and decided to throw himself into the black hole. No emotion over never getting to see his daughter again...nothing.

ummm..

because they said it in the movie it could sustain either him or hathaway. he decided for hathaway because it was a more plausible scenario to save humanity on another planet than be greedy and get to murph?

 

[KevinG]

I'm simply not understanding the insistence that Brand's monologue on love was bad. Hathaway portrayed it perfectly, shaky, unsure, but prepared to cling onto the one thing that makes any of this worth it.

Sure, if you approach it from a nihilistic evolutionary standpoint, then this concept is not where you're wanting Nolan's story to go. I thought this was an essential scene, and in an odd kind of way, a faith (Brand) versus science (Cooper) moment.

Didn't feel clunky or forced, but to each his own. Perhaps my opinion will change after multiple viewings, but as it stands, I still see it as perfectly presented.

 

[Death Metalist]

did the you miss the part where he ONLY wanted to get back to his daughter once after he found out there seemed no plausible way to colonise other planets? The ending is pretty simple. he wasnt from this time. he got back but she had moved on after being 100 years old or so. she just wanted to see him once but didnt want him to see her die. it was right there in the movie, she wanted him to be with the people from his time, hathaways generation

Yup. Also, the reason he threw himself in the Black Hole was because he did lose hope after finding out that everything was a damn lie about plan A and instead acting on what he wanted to do, go through the black hole while leaving Dr.Brand to go to the other planet with a part of humanity with her so that they could colonize. About the "love" dialogue, I honestly don't know why it's a complaint, I was just like Cooper "uh..ok..well we aren't going with your love bullshit" It wasn't like all the others were, damn Brand, we certainly saw the light now.

EDIT: The ship as well couldn't sustain both if I remember correctly.

 

[Cse]

Another boneheaded decision they made was with the order in which they visited the planets.

You have 3 planets. One experiences a relativistic factor of 61,320x that of Earth, meaning every second on the planet is 17 hours on Earth. The other two planets don't have this effect. Why would you ever consider visiting this planet first, even if you only planned to spend an hour there? This should have been a last resort, not the first stop in the new galaxy.

 

[Divvy]

My only big problem with the science and plausibilty in this film, is how that small lander had the thrust capability to escape the gravitational pull of a planet. Especailly the tidal planet that had IIRC, over two times the gravity of Earth.

Another boneheaded decision they made was with the order in which they visited the planets.

You have 3 planets. One experiences a relativistic factor of 61,320x that of Earth, meaning every second on the planet is 17 hours on Earth. The other two planets don't have this effect. Why would you ever consider visiting this planet first, even if you only planned to spend an hour there? This should have been a last resort, not the first stop in the new galaxy.

They explained that they had limited fuel, and that planet was the closest and most promising.

 

[Atraveller]

The film wanted us to take its scientific offerings seriously. It made genuine attempts to come across as scientifically accurate. Every single time there was a shot of space with zero sound, it was an overt reminder that the film wanted its science to be taken seriously - and yet there is so much of it that is laughably wrong.

Care to point some of them out?

Science aside, though, and there are other glaring problems. Brand's monologue about love was cringe inducing. I mean, I honestly struggle to think how anyone could piece together such a lame, fake string of words - and yet this somehow made in into the final script.

I fully agree.

Worst of all, however, was how Cooper abandoned his drive throughout the entire film - his desire to reunite with his daughter. He literally said something to the effect of, "We can't worry about relativity at this point" and decided to basically commit what he thought would be suicide by entering the black hole. Throughout the whole film, the message that was conveyed by Cooper's character is that he'll come back, and his character showed that he wanted to go back. Yet, at the end, he basically just said, "screw it", and threw himself into the black hole.

He had to make Brand's plan B work first, before he and the robot could execute their own might or might not work plan of gathering essential data from the blackhole.

Even worse, at the end, he is finally reunited with his daughter, and he literally spends <90 seconds with her. Not only that, he didn't even look at his grandkids. Nothing. After all of this, he spends just a minute or so with his daughter and then leaves. The film tried to be emotionally persuasive throughout its entirety, yet the end is incredibly brief and emotionally hollow.

I refuse to believe that Murph died within hours of meeting with her father, and he bailed right after her death. Cooper might have stayed a while and hangout with his family, but we don't have to see that.

 

[The Elite]

Another boneheaded decision they made was with the order in which they visited the planets.

You have 3 planets. One experiences a relativistic factor of 61,320x that of Earth, meaning every second on the planet is 17 hours on Earth. The other two planets don't have this effect. Why would you ever consider visiting this planet first, even if you only planned to spend an hour there? This should have been a last resort, not the first stop in the new galaxy.

Fuel consumption.

If you went to the farthest planet first and then found it wasn't viable you would have to make the trek all the way back to the first planet, which would waste a lot more fuel.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Another boneheaded decision they made was with the order in which they visited the planets.

You have 3 planets. One experiences a relativistic factor of 61,320x that of Earth, meaning every second on the planet is 17 hours on Earth. The other two planets don't have this effect. Why would you ever consider visiting this planet first, even if you only planned to spend an hour there? This should have been a last resort, not the first stop in the new galaxy.

what?

1. they went to the first planet because it was the most recent and strongest signal. it was the nearest planet to the wormhole and most habitable as per their calculations. they went to Mann's planet because it was the ONLY other one broadcasting the signal. the last planet wasnt broadcasting anything

 

[amnesiac]

I'm simply not understanding the insistence that Brand's monologue on love was bad. Hathaway portrayed it perfectly, shaky, unsure, but prepared to cling onto the one thing that makes any of this worth it.

Sure, if you approach it from a nihilistic evolutionary standpoint, then this concept is not where you're wanting Nolan's story to go. I thought this was an essential scene, and in an odd kind of way, a faith (Brand) versus science (Cooper) moment.

Didn't feel clunky or forced, but to each his own. Perhaps my opinion will change after multiple viewings, but as it stands, I still see it as perfectly presented.

I agree, it wasn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Even worse, at the end, he is finally reunited with his daughter, and he literally spends <90 seconds with her. Not only that, he didn't even look at his grandkids. Nothing. After all of this, he spends just a minute or so with his daughter and then leaves. The film tried to be emotionally persuasive throughout its entirety, yet the end is incredibly brief and emotionally hollow.

He didn't seem to care about his son too much either. In fact, he kind of forgot about him halfway through the movie even though his son was the one who kept making video messages and didn't give up on him.

 

[Sane_Man]

That was incredible. No doubt there were flaws, but almost all hugely ambitious sci fi films have flaws, especially when they deal with ideas humans can't fully understand yet. By their nature this will lead to not everything making complete sense. But this also leads to speculation and subjective reasoning which adds another layer to films/art in general anyway.

Some of the responses in this thread are a bit rich. Particularly the ones calling it dumb when they themselves have clearly misunderstood concepts that were rather obviously laid out in the film. Like someone else said earlier, it doesn't quite work to say a film has too much exposition and then simultaneously miss simple concepts that the dialogue spelled out for us.

Exposition is ubiquitous with a film like this. It's impossible to avoid it. I definitely get the complaint with Inception but it's nowhere near as glaring in Interstellar. Scientists discussing theories with each other or a teacher passing an assessment of a pupil to his/her parent is completely natural.

The film had amazing visuals, a killer soundtrack, hit the right science geek notes and managed to convey scientific wonder like few others. It's certainly earned its place on my bookshelf next to 2001, Contact, Gatacca and Sunshine.

 

[Anton Sugar]

He was more robotic than TARS and CASE.

At least we can all agree that TARS is the GOAT character.

 

[molnizzle]

I did. Then after they successfully docked with the Endurance, he developed his "screw it" attitude and decided to throw himself into the black hole. No emotion over never getting to see his daughter again...nothing.

He had no other option, he obviously wasn't happy about it. For all of his emotional attachments he was still a man of science. In the end he made what he thought to be the most rational choice. For once, the protagonist made the realistic choice rather than the emotional, "Hollywood" choice. I loved that.

 

[Maninthemirror]

explaining to those who didnt get certain parts makes me like the movie more thinking about it.

 

[djplaeskool]

At least we can all agree that TARS is the GOAT character.

Yeah
I have to admit, all the banter about humor and honesty percentages was hilarious.

 

[Illusive_Juan]

Another boneheaded decision they made was with the order in which they visited the planets.

You have 3 planets. One experiences a relativistic factor of 61,320x that of Earth, meaning every second on the planet is 17 hours on Earth. The other two planets don't have this effect. Why would you ever consider visiting this planet first, even if you only planned to spend an hour there? This should have been a last resort, not the first stop in the new galaxy.

Like others said, it was the whole return fuel issue. But they had to make that stupid decision. Cooper wanted to make sure that he came back to Earth and had enough fuel to do so.

Besides, those stupid decisions had to happen. He wouldn't have been able to go through the black hole, communicate through gravity and create the wormhole he came in on if he didn't make those stupid decision.

On paper, this movie sounds great, but it got cheesy as fuck. Honestly, it should've ended right as he fell into the black hole. It would've been an open ending, and the majority of people would've been able to piece together everything about how me communicated with Murph when he was a child. They could've done something like, show Cooper get swallowed into the darkness, play some Morse Code noise sounding stuff, and be done with it.

The bookcase thing was so fucking cheesy and all that ended with a "Hey if you didn't get this movie, let me spend the next 45 minutes wrapping everything up so a small child could understand it."

 

[Cse]

Care to point some of them out?

I've mentioned one already - specifically, the lunacy of the Endurance not experiencing any effects of time dilation, while the crew on the surface of the planet, which was just a few hundred kilometers away, was traveling at 0.9999999998670263 the speed of light. The film explicitly stated that the Endurance had to remain a certain distance away from this arbitrary line (which they could somehow detect) in order to avoid experiencing any negative effects of time dilation. In reality, the relativistic effects of a supermassive black hole extend outward for thousands of light years, and don't magically "start and stop" at some arbitrary point, but gradually become weaker over this distance.

Then you have Cooper entering the black hole. Every atom in his body should have separated at the speed of light once he crossed the event horizon.

And, once Cooper entered the black hole, he was traveling at or even faster than the speed of light. Regardless of his exact velocity, he was traveling beyond the event horizon, meaning not even light, which obviously travels at light speed, could escape. Thus, time was passing at an exponentially faster rate for him as he neared the singularity than for Brand, who was traveling along the periphery of the event horizon. As a result, Brand should have been incredibly old (or dead) by the time she reached the third planet, yet at the end, the final shot of her revealed that she hadn't aged at all.

 

[Divvy]

I've mentioned one already - specifically, the lunacy of the Endurance not experiencing any effects of time dilation, while the crew on the surface of the planet, which was just a few hundred kilometers away, was traveling at 0.9999999998670263 the speed of light. The film explicitly stated that the Endurance had to remain a certain distance away from this arbitrary line (which they could somehow detect) in order to avoid experiencing any negative effects of time dilation. In reality, the relativistic effects of a supermassive black hole extend outward for thousands of light years, and don't magically "start and stop" at some arbitrary point, but gradually become weaker over this distance.

Yeah this is an issue. I don't even know why it was necessary for that guy to age too. Seems like an avoidable issue.

Then you have Cooper entering the black hole. Every atom in his body should have separated at the speed of light once he crossed the event horizon.

And, once Cooper entered the black hole, he was traveling at or even faster than the speed of light. Regardless of his exact velocity, he was traveling beyond the event horizon, meaning not even light, which obviously travels at light speed, could escape. Thus, time was passing at an exponentially faster rate for him as he neared the singularity than for Brand, who was traveling along the periphery of the event horizon. As a result, Brand should have been incredibly old (or dead) by the time she reached the third planet, yet at the end, the final shot of her revealed that she hadn't aged at all.

Well, it is a blackhole created by distant future humans who have transcended time and space, made specifically for Cooper. Given our already limited understanding of blackholes currently, I don't think this is an issue at all within the film's logic.

 

[Gila]

The sequence that begins with this music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdComTp7KsA#t=223

Damn.

So good

 

[Cse]

Also, the signal coming from the water planet would have been severely redshifted, so much so that they should have known there was nothing down there for them. They should have known this on Earth. As a result, basic instrumentation could have told them that the water planet was in a dire situation, and any chance of the planet being viable to sustain life was minuscule. Of course, they ended up going down there anyway.

 

[Maninthemirror]

I've mentioned one already - specifically, the lunacy of the Endurance not experiencing any effects of time dilation, while the crew on the surface of the planet, which was just a few hundred kilometers away, was traveling at 0.9999999998670263 the speed of light. The film explicitly stated that the Endurance had to remain a certain distance away from this arbitrary line (which they could somehow detect) in order to avoid experiencing any negative effects of time dilation. In reality, the relativistic effects of a supermassive black hole extend outward for thousands of light years, and don't magically "start and stop" at some arbitrary point, but gradually become weaker over this distance.

Then you have Cooper entering the black hole. Every atom in his body should have separated at the speed of light once he crossed the event horizon.

And, once Cooper entered the black hole, he was traveling at or even faster than the speed of light. Regardless of his exact velocity, he was traveling beyond the event horizon, meaning not even light, which obviously travels at light speed, could escape. Thus, time was passing at an exponentially faster rate for him as he neared the singularity than for Brand, who was traveling along the periphery of the event horizon. As a result, Brand should have been incredibly old (or dead) by the time she reached the third planet, yet at the end, the final shot of her revealed that she hadn't aged at all.

Also, the signal coming from the water planet would have been severely redshifted, so much so that they should have known there was nothing down there for them. They should have known this on Earth. As a result, basic instrumentation could have told them that the water planet was in a dire situation, and any chance of the planet being viable to sustain life was minuscule. Of course, they ended up going down there anyway.

its expositioned in the movie that when they themselves heard the water signal, that ship just landed. after arriving 2 years later to the wormhole, the wave was about to hit that ship, and when they reached the planet, the ship was just destroyed few minutes before all due to 7 years per 1 hour on planet relativity

essentially when they reached the planet, the planet was moving 0.02 seconds per DAY relativity to the normal speed. that means for every second on earth, that planets wave was moving every 0.02 seconds PER DAY

 

[mdubs]

also found another theory online

What if in the original timeline Cooper goes into the black hole and dies there. Murph never receives any message. They do not solve gravity. Plan A fails. Everyone on Earth dies. Brand (Anne Hathaway) is the last member of mankind still alive. On Edmunds' planet she grows the fertilized eggs they had brought with them on the Endurance. She succeeds with plan B. The new humans live on that planet. Eventually they become more technologically advanced than we were back on Earth, and at some point in the future they attain such a deep understanding of the universe that they evolve to live in a higher dimension, the bulk. There they perceive love physically, love has a tangible existence in this higher dimension. They perceive the love that linked humans back on Earth a long, long time ago. And then out of love they devise a way to allow these humans to keep living too, some of whom were their ancestors, their great-great-...-great-grand-parents. They perceive the strong love that linked Cooper and his daughter. They realize they can save the humans who lived on Earth by enabling Cooper to communicate with his daughter from inside that black hole, through the link that bound them together. Once Cooper succeeds they send him back near Saturn through a wormhole, to allow him to see his daughter one last time. Brand allowed the future humans to live, Cooper allowed the humans back on Earth to live. In the end Cooper leaves to reunite with Brand, in a sense reuniting humanity together: the future humans who couldn't have lived without Brand, and Earth's humans who couldn't have lived without Cooper. It was love that had brought Brand to Edmunds' planet and allowed future humans to live, and it was love that allowed Cooper to save Earth's humans

I like this theory a lot too.

 

[Cse]

Yeah this is an issue. I don't even know why it was necessary for that guy to age too. Seems like an avoidable issue.



Well, it is a blackhole created by distant future humans who have transcended time and space, made specifically for Cooper. Given our already limited understanding of blackholes currently, I don't think this is an issue at all within the film's logic.

But the film shows us that the black hole operates in the same manner as our theorized black holes. The passage of light around the black hole, the formation of the accretion disk...we can see this visually occurring, and it's occurring because of the physical properties of the black hole, which function in the film as we have actually theorized.

Which leads me back to my original point - the film tries to convince us to take its science seriously, yet it fails miserably in doing so.

 

[Jimothy]

the matt damon sequence didn't add anything to the movie other than bloat and a silly fight scene

this movie needed aliens or something.. i didn't find these planets they traveled to at all interesting.. giant waves? an ice planet? whoop de fucking do

Kind of like Inception where there's so many opportunities for some really cool scenarios but instead we get these really bland environments with no real creativity behind them. I guess the tidle wave part was cool but that was only for a split second when McC first sees it out the back window.

 

[jon bones]

the movie has plenty of faults without nit picking the "science" behind a movie involving the 5th dimension

 

[Maninthemirror]

But the film shows us that the black hole operates in the same manner as our theorized black holes. The passage of light around the black hole, the formation of the accretion disk...we can see this visually occurring, and it's occurring because of the physical properties of the black hole, which function in the film as we have actually theorized.

Which leads me back to my original point - the film tries to convince us to take its science seriously, yet it fails miserably in doing so.

The film shows a black hole as many theories on black holes, the fact that there was the 5th dimension inside the black hole leads me to believe the future humans designed this specifically to bridge the future with the past cooper with the catalyst to change the history to save earth

 

[Anton Sugar]

The last thing this movie needed was aliens.

 

[Gila]

also found another theory online

Where'd you find this? It's a great perspective

e/ lol, ^ agree

 

[Maninthemirror]

Where'd you find this? It's a great perspective

someone randomly shared with me on FB

 

[molnizzle]

At least we can all agree that TARS is the GOAT character.

Truth.

I like this theory a lot too.

Best theory.

 

[Cse]

essentially when they reached the planet, the planet was moving 0.02 seconds per DAY relativity to the normal speed. that means for every second on earth, that planets wave was moving every 0.02 seconds PER DAY

The relatavistic factor between Earth and the water planet is approximately 61,320. Thus, every second on Earth is approximately 0.000978 seconds on the water planet.

The water planet was moving at 186,282.3969 miles per hour, or 0.9999999998670263c.

 

[Nabbis]

The comments here make it sound as if it's a Michael Bay movie...

I found this to be one of the best scifi movies i have ever seen. Obviously there were problems with the physics, but the real thing is depressing and boring as fuck. They would have died before even getting into the wormhole.

 

[Maninthemirror]

The relatavistic factor between Earth and the water planet is approximately 61,320. Thus, every second on Earth is approximately 0.000978 seconds on the water planet, not 0.02.

The water planet was moving at 186,282.3969 miles per hour, or 0.9999999998670263c.

thanks, you just explained your own question that when the signal was sent, no one , not even the ship who sent the signal had a way of knowing or telling they were about to be hit.

 

[Cse]

thanks, you just explained your own question that when the signal was sent, no one , not even the ship who sent the signal had a way of knowing or telling they were about to be hit.

Earth detected the beacon's signal, did it not? Michael Caine tells us explicitly that they're only detecting 3 remaining beacons. Due to the effects of gravitational time dilation, the signal coming from the water planet would have been severely redshifted, indicating the planet was a lost cause.

But, due to this thing called relativity, by the time they made it onto the planet, only a few minutes had passed on the planet itself, not for the Cooper and the crew.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Earth detected the beacon's signal, did it not? Michael Caine tells us explicitly that they're only detecting 3 remaining beacons. Due to the effects of gravitational time dilation, the signal coming from the water planet would have been severely redshifted, indicating the planet was a lost cause.

But, due to this thing called relativity, by the time they made it onto the planet, only a few minutes had passed on the planet itself, not for the Cooper and the crew.

earth detected the signal. the wave was probably a mile away when the signal was received. when the ship was built it was probably 0.5 a mile away, when the ship reached the wormhile it was probably a quarter mile away, when the endurance reached the planet it was 0.1 mile away and when the sub ship reached the atmosphere the ship was JUST destroyed. The signal only had to move out of the planets pull. it was essentially going at the speed of radio waves., it probably took a year or so of earth time to get out of that planets range and then it was normal course to earth

Relativity

 

[friskykillface]

My brother and I thought Coop was dead after ejecting in the black hole, like his ship just got hit by a ton of shit so i thought he was gonna die haha

really great movie, enjoyed it a ton and lol eric forman getting work B^)

and yeah , holy shit at the 23 year part 0_o shit

 

[Cse]

earth detected the signal.

Which.

Was.

Redshifted.

It doesn't matter when the wave hit, that's not the point. The signal coming from the planet was severely redshifted due to the effects of gravitational time dilation. That told them all they needed to know - the planet was not going to be viable.

 

[Anton Sugar]

My brother and I thought Coop was dead after ejecting in the black hole, like his shit just got hit by a ton of shit so i thought he was gonna die haha

really great movie, enjoyed it a ton and lol eric forman getting work B^)

and yeah , holy shit at the 23 year part 0_o shit

I had heard a bunch of talk about how the third act was divisive.

When Damon abandoned Coop for dead, I honestly thought Coop was going to die, and that was the divisive start of the third act.

 

[siddx]

Man I wish I could have seen this in an Imax theatre. Some of the shots were mind blowing. So beautiful. What a great fucking movie.