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The research papers for the black hole and wormhole are out now

Black hole

Worm hole

The black hole spinning at 99.8% the speed of light :

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How it actually looked like in the movie spinning at 60% the speed of light:

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What it would actually look like to an observer in real life:

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Cineplex is doing the Interstellar IMAX Encore, just like AMC. It is happening this Saturday.

Check the showtimes now. I know it's in the Toronto/GTA for sure, but there may be other markets...
 
nhlducks35 said:
The research papers for the black hole and wormhole are out now

Black hole

Worm hole

The black hole spinning at 99.8% the speed of light :

bdQUyPG.png


How it actually looked like in the movie spinning at 60% the speed of light:

nGu7rvn.png


What it would actually look like to an observer in real life:

8zNI9Jy.png
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They seriously need to release these papers as part of a Delux Blu-ray edition :D
 
When is this coming out on Blu ray? I want to rewatch it so I can catch all the dialogue I missed because Caine and Mcconaughey mumbled their way through the film.
 
Deadline is doing a rundown of the most profitable films for the studios last year. It ended up just behind Godzilla with a net profit of $47 million after Nolan got his huge cut. Deadline has a complete breakdown of the finances on the site.

Who would bet against Nolan, coming off a streak of three Dark Knight films and Inception sandwiched in between those films, that grossed billions of dollars for Warner Bros and Legendary Pictures? The problem — a high-class problem at that — is that betting on Nolan is a very expensive proposition. According to my insiders, Nolan had a massive $20 million against 20% of the gross, which netted him around $90 million. I don’t believe either McConaughey or Hathaway had gross positions, but both got bonuses at least for their back end deals. It’s the rare title these days where talent got paid better than the backing studios Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros and Legendary Pictures.
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http://deadline.com/2015/03/interstellar-profit-box-office-2014-1201389442/
 
I know I'm really late to the party, and I tried to catch up by reading several pages of this thread, but I couldn't find a good explanation for the reason NASA needed the "quantum" half of the "gravity solution" equation in order to launch the big space stations...what exactly was the point of that?

I actually really liked this movie and I thought it felt epic as fuck...but I just don't get the equation thing. Maybe I missed a line of dialogue or two but it seemed kinda half-assed.
 
MadraptorMan said:
I know I'm really late to the party, and I tried to catch up by reading several pages of this thread, but I couldn't find a good explanation for the reason NASA needed the "quantum" half of the "gravity solution" equation in order to launch the big space stations...what exactly was the point of that?

I actually really liked this movie and I thought it felt epic as fuck...but I just don't get the equation thing. Maybe I missed a line of dialogue or two but it seemed kinda half-assed.
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To manipulate gravity . The first step would be to put the huge stations into space , like the Cooper one you see in the end.
 
MadraptorMan said:
I know I'm really late to the party, and I tried to catch up by reading several pages of this thread, but I couldn't find a good explanation for the reason NASA needed the "quantum" half of the "gravity solution" equation in order to launch the big space stations...what exactly was the point of that?

I actually really liked this movie and I thought it felt epic as fuck...but I just don't get the equation thing. Maybe I missed a line of dialogue or two but it seemed kinda half-assed.
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For whatever reason they couldn't reconcile the mathematics necessary to produce "anti-gravity." Without the data sent back in time by TARS / Cooper in the Tesseract the equation had too many variables to ever "solve."

It's obviously a bit of movie magic - but in theory the data they got to experience first hand in the center of the black hole allowed them to finish the equation to lift the super massive O'Neill Cylinders out of Earth's gravity well. Without this equation you're forever stuck in the old method of launching a very small payload using large amounts of solid fuel.
 
willow ve said:
this equation you're forever stuck in the old method of launching a very small payload using large amounts of solid fuel.
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The ship they landed on and took off from the planets seemed like it would carry much less fuel than the rocket used to get them into earth orbit. Didn't seem especially plausible.
 
cloud_sleep said:
The ship they landed on and took off from the planets seemed like it would carry much less fuel than the rocket used to get them into earth orbit. Didn't seem especially plausible.
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No it isn't, but let's pretend it had dinner sort of high altitude scram jet that would get it most of the way up to speed with rocket boost to orbit.

It works in Kerbal space program, at least.
 
Dave Inc. said:
No it isn't, but let's pretend it had dinner sort of high altitude scram jet that would get it most of the way up to speed with rocket boost to orbit.

It works in Kerbal space program, at least.
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But to have an efficient jet engine for that you'd need to know about the atmosphere composition of the various planets when building the engine. I don't think it would just work. But I'm mostly only KSP educated myself...
 
Lach said:
But to have an efficient jet engine for that you'd need to know about the atmosphere composition of the various planets when building the engine. I don't think it would just work. But I'm mostly only KSP educated myself...
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But they were only going to explore planets with relatively earth like atmospheres.
 
willow ve said:
For whatever reason they couldn't reconcile the mathematics necessary to produce "anti-gravity." Without the data sent back in time by TARS / Cooper in the Tesseract the equation had too many variables to ever "solve."
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It's not really whatever reason. It's todays reason. We can't reconcile general relativity and quantum mechanics


Thorne's Interstellar book has a lot of information about the quantum data , the equation , etc . There's a passage which sums it really well
If we begin with the ordinary quantum laws that ignore gravity and then discard the fluctuations , we obtain the Newtonian laws of physics - the laws used for the past few centuries to describe planets , stars , bridges and marbles.

If we begin with the ill-understood laws of quantum gravity and then discard the fluctuation , we must obtain Einsteins well understood relativistic laws of physics. The fluctuations we discard are , for example , a froth of fluctuating , exquisitely tiny wormholes ("quantum foam" that pervades all space). With the fluctuations gone , Einsteins's laws describe the precise warping of space and time around black holes and then precise slowing time of Earth

This is all the preamble to a punch line : If professor Brand could discover the quantum gravity laws for the bulk as well as our brane , then by discarding those laws fluctuations , he could deduce the precise form of his equation. And that precise form would tell him the origin of the gravitational anomalies and how to control the anomalies - how to employ them (he hopes) to lift colonies off Earth. And the professor knows this. He also knows wehere the quantum gravity laws can be learned : inside singularities.
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Also there's is a very interesting note by the end of the book which describes the catastrophes that Earth would suffer if those gigantic colonies soared to space.
 
Nolan is going to be on Neil deGrasse Tyson's new StarTalk TV show on National Geographic.

Premieres Monday, April 27, at 11 PM ET/PT
Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson interviews director, screenwriter and producer Christopher Nolan about The Science of Interstellar. Nolan discusses how he translates his love of science to his films. Dr. Janna Levin, professor of Astronomy and Physics at Columbia University, and comedian Eugene Mirman are on hand to add some colorful commentary.
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http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150317006522/en/National-Geographic-Channel%E2%80%99s-Late-Night-Talk-Show-StarTalk#.VQnlx47F98G

Also, Blu-ray.com has their Interstellar Blu-ray review up.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Interstellar-Blu-ray/77552/#Review
 
I felt that Interstellar tried to be too clever for it's own good, then just glossed over plot holes. Like for example, how Brand somehow survived reentry to her final destination on a station that was 15 mins previously plummeting into a planets atmosphere with no heat shield and they used the the last of the drop ships to accelerate away from the black hole before dumping them.
 
Desaan said:
I felt that Interstellar tried to be too clever for it's own good, then just glossed over plot holes. Like for example, how Brand somehow survived reentry to her final destination on a station that was 15 mins previously plummeting into a planets atmosphere with no heat shield and they used the the last of the drop ships to accelerate away from the black hole before dumping them.
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I'm pretty sure that's explained pretty succinctly. Brand was only able to escape/survive because of Coop's (intended) sacrifice.
 
About the entering a black hole bit...wouldn't you be dead and crushed by the massive force of gravity from the black hole before you even got anywhere near it or the event horizon of it?
 
kinn said:
About the entering a black hole bit...wouldn't you be dead and crushed by the massive force of gravity from the black hole before you even got anywhere near it or the event horizon of it?
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It's a spinning black hole, which means it's theoretically possible to pass the event horizon without getting close to the singularity, meaning spaghettification could be avoided by Coop before he enters the tesseract.
 
kinn said:
About the entering a black hole bit...wouldn't you be dead and crushed by the massive force of gravity from the black hole before you even got anywhere near it or the event horizon of it?
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Gargantua is a supermassive black hole, so the gravity is actually very shallow and would not crush a ship approaching it (provided it flies in at the right angle I think?).

better yet, just post what Tyson says:

There’s a regular black hole, which is the end state of a high-mass star, which is a relatively small, planet-sized black hole. Then, you have supermassive black holes that are in the center of galaxies and are huge—typically the size of entire solar systems. If you don’t want to be ripped apart by the tidal forces of a black hole, you’d need to move in and around a supermassive black hole, because the larger a black hole is, the shallower the tidal forces. So, a supermassive black hole would have very shallow tidal forces and likely would not rip you apart if you came near it or descended past the event horizon. It’s the stellar mass black holes that would rip you apart if you got too close. In this case, it’s also the stellar mass black holes that would raise the tide so high on the planet. This is where you take some cinematic liberties—you want the drama of the wave, and you get that on a lower black hole, but you want to survive the experience for having been near it. So, there are some liberties taken there.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...k-holes-time-dilations-and-massive-waves.html
 
Desaan said:
I felt that Interstellar tried to be too clever for it's own good, then just glossed over plot holes. Like for example, how Brand somehow survived reentry to her final destination on a station that was 15 mins previously plummeting into a planets atmosphere with no heat shield and they used the the last of the drop ships to accelerate away from the black hole before dumping them.
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All of the pieces of the endurance could land on planets (that's how they would get the colony started), but they didn't have enough fuel for each piece to land and take off multiple times.
 
willow ve said:
For whatever reason they couldn't reconcile the mathematics necessary to produce "anti-gravity." Without the data sent back in time by TARS / Cooper in the Tesseract the equation had too many variables to ever "solve."

It's obviously a bit of movie magic - but in theory the data they got to experience first hand in the center of the black hole allowed them to finish the equation to lift the super massive O'Neill Cylinders out of Earth's gravity well. Without this equation you're forever stuck in the old method of launching a very small payload using large amounts of solid fuel.
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I wish they would have explained this in the movie.
 
-griffy- said:
It's a spinning black hole, which means it's theoretically possible to pass the event horizon without getting close to the singularity, meaning spaghettification could be avoided by Coop before he enters the tesseract.
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Blader said:
Gargantua is a supermassive black hole, so the gravity is actually very shallow and would not crush a ship approaching it (provided it flies in at the right angle I think?).

better yet, just post what Tyson says:



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...k-holes-time-dilations-and-massive-waves.html
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Thanks for the explanation guys.
 
GYNGA said:
That would have been miles better IMO. Much more emotional than the actual ending
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Lmao this is so bad. It's what I expected to happen, based on some of his other films. The last 10 minutes practically makes the movie imo. I don't know how much I would like the movie without "because my dad promised me".

Case said:
I wish they would have explained this in the movie.
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They did.
 
I was finally able to watch this movie tonight. I can't read all 119 pages, but, my biggest question is, say cooper gets back to the colony that Brand sets up. How old would she be?
 
Ziltoidia 9 said:
I was finally able to watch this movie tonight. I can't read all 119 pages, but, my biggest question is, say cooper gets back to the colony that Brand sets up. How old would she be?
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I think that planet was far enough from the black hole that time flowed about as fast as on Earth, so she and Cooper would be roughly the same age.
 
Battersea Power Station said:
I think that planet was far enough from the black hole that time flowed about as fast as on Earth, so she and Cooper would be roughly the same age.
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Time should have been much slower for cooper in the black hole tho, right?

I mean I guess if his daughter was still alive, of course brand would be. Just thought she might look different at least.

I still think the movie is good and all that. Not trying to criticize it.
 
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