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Iowa 2008 Caucus Thread

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Triumph said:
The first step to a brokered GOP convention has been taken today, and I for one am ecstatic about it. The weaker they look the easier it's going to be for whichever shitty candidate the dems trot out to win and prevent any more retards in the vein of Scalito getting appointed to the Supreme Court


Are you still buying that old tripe?

I'll play like its 2000 too ... I'm not going to vote for any more tax and spend liberuls! I want to vote for someone that shares the same family values as me!
 
avaya said:
Got sky?

Check CNN EPG 506 and Faux News EPG 510

Nah my TV is busted at the mo, and I don't have Sky anyway!

This MSNBC stream doesn't seem too bad. The main host has great hair and his analyst co-anchor seems to have taken a pill.
 
Mason said:
Only 25% of Republican precincts are reporting and they're calling it already... it drives me nuts when they do this

25% is usually enough to call it with acceptable error, unless multiple counties report something drastically different.
 
teiresias said:
With Huckabee as President bring on the concentration camps for anyone that's not white and christian.
Now that is sarcasm, but he did say . . .
Huckabee, as a Senate candidate that year, told The Associated Press that "we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague" if the federal government was going to deal with the spread of the disease effectively. "It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents," he said then.

Camps for HIV positive?
 
topsyturvy said:
Sorry but he's the john kerry of the republican party. :/

I sincerely hope you're right. Evangelicals scare the piss out of me. I can't deal with 4 more years of fire and brimstone.
 
Diablos said:
Are you sure about that?

Who carried George W. Bush to victory in two elections? Evangelicals. Take them out of the picture and Democrats probably win in 2000 and 2004 half awake.

Who does Huckabee attract? Evangelicals. Romney or even McCain would probably make evangelicals feel divided and that would put Democrats at a serious advantage. Huckabee looks to be the guy who won't let evangelicals down when just a couple months ago, they figured Rudy was the likely nominee, and not too happy about it.

Money carried Bush to victory. He's a Bush, they can raise a lot of money from the right people. A candidate needs "the right people" to win, and that's not really the electorate. Clinton has it, Obama too to some good extent. On the Republican's side this time they had a very weak lineup, but Giuliani would have been the proper candidate to win, in that sense, but he couldn't get the support to begin with. So what we are getting now was pretty much inevitable. There was just no strong candidate who could also get the support from the same people who backed Bush and are backing Hilary.
 
40% reporting

Huckabee
14,045
31%

Romney
10,084
23%

Thompson
5,950
13%

McCain
5,194
12%

Giuliani
4,901
11%

Paul
4,379
10%

Hunter
168
0%
 
Senator Barack Obama : 34.52%
Senator John Edwards : 31.61%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.13%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.69%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.98%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.04%
Uncommitted : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1000 of 1781
 
Lost Fragment said:
Giuliani just surged from 4% to 11%. Past Paul.

Digg is gonna be interesting tonight.
I'm sure Digg will count Ron Paul's potentially 5th or 6th place showing as a moral victory.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Ron Paul only exists on the internet.

As much as I was interested in Ron Paul in the beginning, it's evident that he's really a one-trick pony after the 3rd interview or so. He really does say the same thing over and over again. Unfortunately, the internet him for some reason.
 
Grecco said:
Someone explain to me this Huckabee hate?
Right wingers hate him because they're no longer able to swindle the christian voters by having swine like Falwell and Dobson bless the candidate they designate.
 
Lost Fragment said:
Giuliani just surged from 4% to 11%. Past Paul.

Reddit is gonna be interesting tonight.

Fixed. As much as I love Reddit, that place gets a bit rabid sometimes.
 
I was hoping Thompson would do better and surprise people with a second place victory. If he drops out, I'm going to Obama.
 
59% reporting
Obama 426 35%
Edwards 387 31%
Clinton 381 31%


The Obama Hype Train is leaving the station tonight. I'm for Edwards, but what the hell, I'll get on board. Better than Hillary.
 
I think Paul is still doing extremely well, all things considered. Giuliani is only barely above him, and he has more name recognition and has had a lot more media exposure.

Though hopefully this will wake the Paulites up to the fact that they're just a very vocal minority.
 
Y2Kev said:
So will this end the Paulite attack on the internet?
Not at all. Paul has the best chance to do anything in the New Hampshire primary, I'd say.

Once he comes in 5th or 6th there, then it will start to die out.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Not the night for your Romney...

The ellipses is back :)

I'm shocked at this blowout. I still figured Romney's money and organization would give him Iowa, even after the Huckabee surge. Damn he just got steamrolled
 
topsyturvy said:
unless a sex tape appears with hillary in it, A huckabee/hillary debate would be a slaughter fest of epic proportions. :lol

Yeah, Hilary wouldn't stand a chance.

Debates surely are not her strength at all.
 
SRG01 said:
Unfortunately, the internet [likes Ron Paul] for some reason.
The guy is honest and consistent, has a history of votes to show for it, and doesn't bend over for lobbyists and corporations. He's also the only anti-war Republican, and that means a lot for people that think the party lost its way.

I'll be voting for him, but anyone that thought he had any chance beyond just starting a small change in Americans minds' is short-sighted. They're kind of like the kids that only watch anime and then write angry letters to Cartoon Network when they butcher a show or cancel something that they feel is more popular than it really is.
 
topsyturvy said:
unless a sex tape appears with hillary in it, A huckabee/hillary debate would be a slaughter fest of epic proportions. :lol

If 2004 taught me anything, it's that "success" in debates can be utterly meaningless. I thought Kerry utterly dominated in 2004, but simply knowing the facts and appearing to be articulate aren't enough. I would expect Huckabee to stick to his core message much like Bush, and he has the added benefit of being much more charismatic than Bush.
 
TheKingsCrown said:
Wow looks like Obama has it. Does anyone else think that this time, Iowa might not tell the whole story of what is to happen?
I think Obama has a very good chance to take the Democratic nomination. I do think winning Iowa would give him enough of a bump in NH to more or less close any gap there between himself and Clinton and effectively make that a deadheat.

If he can take both Iowa and New Hampshire, I think the Democrat race would be close to being over.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
They're kind of like the kids that only watch anime and then write angry letters to Cartoon Network when they butcher a show or cancel something that they feel is more popular than it really is.

Huh? I think you more accurately described a Ron Paul supporter there.
 
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