speculawyer
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Yeah, those two do seem to be the least geniune.WinFonda said:
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Iowa 2008 Caucus Thread
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Absinthe (Permed)
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:loltopsyturvy said:
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Don't fall for the Clinton spin of them not focusing on Iowa. It's pure and utter BS of the highest degree. They were fully invested in Iowa; cash, staff, offices, thousands and thousands of drivers, and so on. People have to remember that Clinton was the frontrunner in Iowa throughout the campaign and even as late as the middle of October in the DMR poll. Obama simply turned the gas on and his supporters did the rest.
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Absinthe said:
Errr hello, we have Harper.
BenjaminBirdie
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Damn, did he say "Fuck" like a hundred times? They got Huckabee's speech up...
Gary Whitta
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Anybody who seriously thinks that what this country needs as President is a southern baptist preacher needs their head examined.
soul creator
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MassiveAttack said:
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Absinthe (Permed)
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harSon said:
Sickeningly predictable. I'm sure you'll work a couple of miracles, won't you? I'm sure America will value your bullying and physical abuse of women. :lol
speculawyer
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You need to read this book:OgnodoD said:
BenjaminBirdie
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OH THANK CHRIST IT'S UP ON MSNBC.
WrathOfOtaibah
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Points:
1) I was in the Democrat caucus and yeah, I supported Obama. The Democratic caucus has delegates instead of individual votes. Obama was the clear choice but I thought Hillary had this one wrapped up. It was just the precinct I was was most college students and therefore, most likely to support Obama.
2) Ron Paul done tanked. His poll numbers since June have matched the caucus performance. Curious to see all the conspiracy theories that will be popping up about why the poll numbers match the caucus performance.
3) Giuliani was a flop. 4% is a fucking joke and even though he all but ignored the state, his campaign took a massive blow that will be difficult to recover from.
4) Huckabee's win was expected.
1) I was in the Democrat caucus and yeah, I supported Obama. The Democratic caucus has delegates instead of individual votes. Obama was the clear choice but I thought Hillary had this one wrapped up. It was just the precinct I was was most college students and therefore, most likely to support Obama.
2) Ron Paul done tanked. His poll numbers since June have matched the caucus performance. Curious to see all the conspiracy theories that will be popping up about why the poll numbers match the caucus performance.
3) Giuliani was a flop. 4% is a fucking joke and even though he all but ignored the state, his campaign took a massive blow that will be difficult to recover from.
4) Huckabee's win was expected.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Tobor said:
It is, but it's not the real kind that was made with wormwood back in the day. Unfortunate, I know.
I didn't fall for anything, but I was always under the impression that the Clintons did not care as much about places like Iowa. I've gotta say, though... thinking back to Hillary's speech, she seemed kind of pissed. And Bill looked worried, heh.Incognito said:
I'm happy for Obama. I just hope he can win in the general, too, because there's a really good chance he will get the nomination if Iowa means anything (and it obviously does).
Argh, I'm so pissed that PA is not a part of Super Tuesday.
MassiveAttack
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topsyturvy
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who would you vote for besides them? its gonna be a hillary/obama ticket. Soooo.Absinthe said:
MassiveAttack
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soul creator said:
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I think we've got Bigfoot solved.
Lazy vs Crazy
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You are being incredibly delusional if you think Canadian politicians are any better.Absinthe said:
I don't think 10 000 votes for Paul in reality is that bad, especially like someone here brilliantly expressed with a photoshop a probably very pessimist view of these numbers. Fraud Paul is not the reality. Even if he finished only ahead of a candidate not campaigning at all in Iowa busy in other states, doesn't mean that he screwed everything up completely.
Yes, on Ron Paul's official website we saw written on the banner cumulating the funds before they changed it this: 12 millions to win in Iowa, New Hampshire etc. They were assuring people of victory in exchange of a certain amount of money. Paul's supporters not only beat this target but raised it to almost 20 millions. Still, he lost.
But when you look at the number, he's only 3000 votes or so behind Maccain and Thompson, both considered serious candidates since the beginning of the campaign. The fact that he almost reached these guys in such a small amount of time (November 5th to January Third) looks impressive to me.
There's a certain wave going on I think, especially when you look at the number of new donors at the second money bomb. But Paul's supporters needed probably another month to let it grow bigger. They lacked time, and money can't buy that. I don't think he'll do better Tuesday, that's too bad. The so call revolution started too late.
Yes, on Ron Paul's official website we saw written on the banner cumulating the funds before they changed it this: 12 millions to win in Iowa, New Hampshire etc. They were assuring people of victory in exchange of a certain amount of money. Paul's supporters not only beat this target but raised it to almost 20 millions. Still, he lost.
But when you look at the number, he's only 3000 votes or so behind Maccain and Thompson, both considered serious candidates since the beginning of the campaign. The fact that he almost reached these guys in such a small amount of time (November 5th to January Third) looks impressive to me.
There's a certain wave going on I think, especially when you look at the number of new donors at the second money bomb. But Paul's supporters needed probably another month to let it grow bigger. They lacked time, and money can't buy that. I don't think he'll do better Tuesday, that's too bad. The so call revolution started too late.
Absinthe said:
Seriously, what in the FUCKING HELL are you talking about?
I hate it when retards get sand in their privates and cry "oh, no, conservatives/liberals in charge oh im moving to Canada" like the US is all of a sudden a fucking 3rd world country. Stop being such a drama queen. Your daily life will be 0% different, no matter who is in office.
Synth_floyd
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It's interesting how the two winners, both were the most charismatic candidates of their respective parties and both gave speeches about "hope and change." Though I give very little credence to Huckabee's "hope and change" speech being that his party has been in the White House for 7 years now, and will still be in it for 1 more year so if they really wanted change they could do it right now. A large part of politics is sadly the winning and losing of elections, rather than serving the people and getting things done in office.
topsyturvy
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How can one be a gay republican? serious question?
perfectchaos007
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As much as Ron Paul says hes not going to run as an independant, I know his supporters are going to just about make him run as independant. I mean, all that money they gave him...His supporters would be pissed off if he took that money and ran.
maybe absinthe just really likes hockey and is upset that the politicians don't support putting the biscuit in the basket (except huckabee who supports putting hte biscuit in his mouth lolz) or the right wing lock like they used to.Enron said:
and if you're wondering whether I just used hockey terminology to make a political pun, you are right my friend!
topsyturvy said:
Easy. You just put your penis inside of another man and then go watch The A Team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicantopsyturvy said:
Gary Whitta
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Ask Larry Craig.topsyturvy said:
Lazy vs Crazy
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Google "log cabin republican"topsyturvy said:
MassiveAttack
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perfectchaos007 said:
I'm hoping that if Bloomberg jumps into the race in February, he'll make RP his running mate. Unlikely, but the history of running mates is rather crazy.
Lazy vs Crazy
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Er, I'm pretty sure Bloomberg and Paul are not at all alike.
MassiveAttack
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Incognito said:
I'm not but I'd like to see Paul stay in the race if only because he's the outsider on nearly every issue.
I'm not surprised in the least by the outcome, and I think the only good thing to come out of the caucus thus far is that the field will start to thin, even if that means some of the best candidates on the Democratic side dropping out. That was probably the only real news to come out of this, even if it was predictable. Speaking of predictable, watching the media (i.e., Williams & Russert) blather on about the outcome is pretty laughable; as if Iowa has forever changed American politics on account of a single high stakes presidential campaign. I'm not looking forward to the post-caucus Sunday talk show filler.
Fixed.
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Fixed.
speculawyer
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VanMardigan said:
No, this is what I said (and you quoted) is:
Speculawyer said:
"Huckabee's pro-Jesus Christian theocrat stuff" != "being christian"
Would a link to a definition of theocrat help?
The Log Cabin Republicans (gay republican organization for anyone who doesn't know) had better wake up and smell the coffee this election cycle. If the party seriously nominates Huckabee then I don't give a crap what kind of economic policy you favor, you have no business supporting a party that will nominate someone that quite frankly thinks you're hell-bound scum with no business even existing.
They can throw around all the rhetoric they want about the "party being hijacked" by evangelicals and other nonsense, that just means the party is broken, and broken beyond repair.
They can throw around all the rhetoric they want about the "party being hijacked" by evangelicals and other nonsense, that just means the party is broken, and broken beyond repair.
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