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iPhone 5C |OT|
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I don't get it.
This is about increasing ASP and margins for investors.
I like this
Yea it's fun playing with the colour and case combinations.
Gamecocks625
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Might jump on the iphone train next year (still in dumb phone world) and for some reason the 5c looks appealing from a durability point of view.
Ninja Scooter
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These look like they are made for females, but I'm sure they'll find their demographic. I'd rather have a 5S.
CharminUltra
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Getting the 5S, but these look pretty nice. Might get one for my parents.
That said, those cases look amazingly... weird. Do not want.
That said, those cases look amazingly... weird. Do not want.
DigitalRicket
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Just curious but when pre-ordering do you have to pay up front right then and there?
funkystudent
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Was interested in a cheaper iPhone that competed with upper mid range android phones. It didnt have to be nexus 4 cheap but somewhere in the 400 range would have been just as acceptable.
What I got was something to replace last years model in the pricing chart that with worse build quality and a higher profit margin. :/
Hopefully this is like the first Macbook air. Overpriced but once they its a transition device to drive manufacturing costs down and the next model will be the real one you should buy.
What I got was something to replace last years model in the pricing chart that with worse build quality and a higher profit margin. :/
Hopefully this is like the first Macbook air. Overpriced but once they its a transition device to drive manufacturing costs down and the next model will be the real one you should buy.
jts
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Playfulness with the phone's color, which is the whole moto of this phone.
Nokia says hi.
Jazzy Network
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The N4 wasn't really a budget phone. It had high end specs at the time it was released. They just subsidized the shit out of it.
Chinpoko_Master
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The black bezels ruin the whole look of the phone for me.
Baron Aloha
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I'm one of the people who was looking to buy this phone off contract but the price is too much. In general I think cell phones and plans are a ripoff. I have a GoPhone and want to pick up a new phone and slap my existing sim card into it, which is why I'm looking for something off contract. I currently pay $25 for 3 months and I often have money left over, which rolls over to the next quarter.
Can anyone recommend a phone in the sub 400 range?
Can anyone recommend a phone in the sub 400 range?
Yeah but when people think Google they think Nexus. Nexus never runs more then $400 for the biggest.
ThisWreckage
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They should have made a black version of this. As it stands, it looks like this phone was made for middle school and high school students and grandparents.
Yeah most people only make calls on these things anyway.
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Deleted member 12837
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Who said it was a budget phone?
It's the standard price cut they always do for the previous model phone. Why are people surprised by this?
Oh and in this case, it's not even the old model. It's a new model with slightly increased specs from the old model, so it's better than usual.
Really? So you don't see the benefits of pay $30 a month vs $100. Someone's choking on cock, and it's not Google's.
Pretty much everyone pre-announcement, that's why a lot of us cheapies are disappointed it's not.
So that the cover is less durable and rips more easily, and so that it gets hooked on random parts of your clothing.
Its pretty simple:
A typical Iphone consumer only supports Apple accessories. So once the cover gets destroyed they will replace it will the same wacky official Apple cover. The cover will be destroyed many times, but the Iphone consumer will not learn his/her lesson and will continue buying the official Iphone cover; thinking its superior in quality then all over options. Apple will PROFIT $$$
Uncanny resemblance:
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Deleted member 12837
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Ah, well that's your fault for taking rumors/speculation as fact
This is why Apple will never meet, let alone exceed, expectations anymore. Too much rumor milling, etc.
Uncanny resemblance:
The Real Abed
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Can we go further back and post photos of Nintendo's Play it Loud GameBoys and the many N64 colors they released?Ah, well that's your fault for taking rumors/speculation as fact
This is why Apple will never meet, let alone exceed, expectations anymore. Too much rumor milling, etc.
Ninja Scooter
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releasing things in different colors isn't really something you can necessarily attribute to any one company. Fucking swatch watches were doing it in the 80s and probably someone before them. I doubt Apple or Nokia sat around ripping off a Nintendo campaign from 1993.
The Real Abed
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Yep. Yep yep yep. In fact, I remember seeing photos in this very thread pages ago with old rotary phones in colors.
Nokia is acting like they invented color though.
The internals are the same as the 5 no? The only thing new about the phone is the plastic case, and I'm sure that costs next to nothing.
The purpose of this phone is not to save you money; it's to save Apple money since this thing is probably considerably cheaper to manufacture compared the old iPhone 5. It's all about dat profit margin, not market share. It's not about selling more iPhones for less; It's not about flooding the market with cheap plastic iPhones; it's about selling something that costs $100 to make for $550.
Apple has never, and will never, sacrifice profit for market share. Look at PC manufacturers. Lenovo sells a shitton of laptops but their profit margins are so thin they barely make any money off them.
As for who is going to buy this? Millions of people actually, who think this is 50% cheaper than the 5S because it's $99 compared to $199 on contract, when it's actually closer to just 5% cheaper in the long run since they'll end up paying thousands in monthly plan payments no matter what phone they get. Paying $2400 for a 5C makes no sense when you can pay $2500 for a 5S. But most people seem to have trouble thinking beyond the short term; the Carriers thrive on this model and that's why they keep the subsidies.
The US Carrier / Manufacturer / Consumer ecosystem is just quite bizarre.
Apple has never, and will never, sacrifice profit for market share. Look at PC manufacturers. Lenovo sells a shitton of laptops but their profit margins are so thin they barely make any money off them.
As for who is going to buy this? Millions of people actually, who think this is 50% cheaper than the 5S because it's $99 compared to $199 on contract, when it's actually closer to just 5% cheaper in the long run since they'll end up paying thousands in monthly plan payments no matter what phone they get. Paying $2400 for a 5C makes no sense when you can pay $2500 for a 5S. But most people seem to have trouble thinking beyond the short term; the Carriers thrive on this model and that's why they keep the subsidies.
The US Carrier / Manufacturer / Consumer ecosystem is just quite bizarre.
It is this. Segmented product group into "air" and "pro".
Angelus Errare
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Apple re-invented color.
lol wut? "Can't be painted on" *looks at 5C*
The Real Abed
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If you watched the video, you'd understand what they mean. As usual they're referring to the moulding process, in their own roundabout way.
killertofu
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What are you talking about? I'm not talking about plans here, I'm talking about phones. The truth of the matter is, Pay-As-You go and cheaper plans aren't a big thing in the US. Look at all the customers Verizon, ATT, and Sprint have. Most don't give a shit about their plan. If everyone were clamoring to go for off-contract phones, don't you think T-Mobile would be 4th place? Most people will see a "cheap" iPhone at 99 dollars and never second guess that they're paying a retarded amount of money each month to use it. That's just the way it goes.
To be fair, I would've loved it if this were cheap and off-contract. I don't want to get locked down on a 5S but I'm not pissing my pants getting angry at Apple for something they don't have to do. They profit off of hardware and if people are stupid enough to buy it then that's that.
Alongside and in addition to this; I think the C is the new iPad mini. Not the latest tech but more appealing in [insert] ways. They undercut the margin on iPad mini more than C (look at how stockholders punished them, the massive stock buyback, now this), but I think this is the same move we saw with air and pro, ipad mini vs 4, and now this.
I'm really interested in the numbers on the overlapping $199 S vs C price point. They'll never break it out on earnings but I think those sales results will say a lot; about future storage upgrades, pressure on wireless carriers for bandwidth restrictions, and related stuff they could sway with the cash pile.
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Deleted member 1235
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really? wow. HTC One is the best phone i've ever seen I would have thought this would come in well under that.
Unless your 4S is slow ( mine isn't ) I would stay with the 4S.
I just saw that too. Fucking hell, guys!!!
Mutanthands
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It is now. If Apple keeps the 5c around for awhile, the price will come down to where the 4s is at the moment.
This is aimed at lower tier first world markets right now, not at the emergent market. It may trickle down that path in a couple of years, if Apple is playing the long game.
So I just got to watch the keynote, and fucking LOL @ Apple actually Photoshopping out the "hon" in the 5C cases for the keynote. Even they know the cases suck.
Compared to the real thing:
The fact that anyone cares is more mindblowing than Apple's "lapse".
I think you're missing the point.
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