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iPhone 8 reportedly won’t come with Touch ID

I don't know what's more annoying, using the word sheep unironically cause people bought a phone you don't like or that there's a poster named Assbender who thinks Nintendo fans are comparable to Trump fans.
 
I don't know what's more annoying, using the word sheep unironically cause people bought a phone you don't like or that there's a poster named Assbender who thinks Nintendo fans are comparable to Trump fans.

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Completely inaccurate. I have the Jaybird X3 and the only downside was the hit in audiophile grade iems I had before. Everything else has been far more convenient for me. I can't tell you how many times wires get caught on random things in NYC. And the battery easily lasts the entire day. Sometimes I don't charge it and I'm good to go. And I alternate between my One Plus 3T and 7+ constantly and it's seamless. So I cannot agree with your assertion at all.

I owned the Jaybirds as well. Dropped that shit and went back to wired. Battery issues are ridiculously infuriating and I don't want to charge something else.
 
The very high end wired ones are still better than any wireless version.

It disappoints me that they didn’t add better quality BT like AptX or their own equivalent to Iphone 7 when deciding to remove the headphone socket. To at least counter some of the quality drop.
 
Why do people keep pretending the iPhone 7 doesn’t come with a dongle for headphones

You can keep the dongle attached to your wired headphones and then it’s like your normal headphones, except the tip is different.

But then I realised that I quite often misplace headphones, or leave them at home when I’m travelling. With my current phone I can pick up a £10 pair at the train station/airport and I’m good. With no headphone jack that’s not possible. And I don’t think lightning dongles are so common that you can pick them up in a convenience store yet

So yes, you can have a similar experience with your wired headphones and I’m sure lots of people do. But there are also clear limitations that will affect lots of people too.
 
First it's rumored to cost $1000+, now no Touch ID? That's really important feature since I used it regularly for bank apps. Look like I will stick with my SE for awhile.
 
First it's rumored to cost $1000+, now no Touch ID? That's really important feature since I used it regularly for bank apps. Look like I will stick with my SE for awhile.

You don’t use touchID for bank apps. You use biometric unlocking. TouchID just happens to be the way that is surfaced in current iPhones. If Apple replace that with faceID, you could still use your bank apps. Maybe they’d need a quick update
 
You can keep the dongle attached to your wired headphones and then it’s like your normal headphones, except the tip is different.

But then I realised that I quite often misplace headphones, or leave them at home when I’m travelling. With my current phone I can pick up a £10 pair at the train station/airport and I’m good. With no headphone jack that’s not possible. And I don’t think lightning dongles are so common that you can pick them up in a convenience store yet

So yes, you can have a similar experience with your wired headphones and I’m sure lots of people do. But there are also clear limitations that will affect lots of people too.

We’re not quite there yet, but it won’t be long before in the same situation you’ll be able to pick up a cheap pair of Bluetooth headphones anywhere. You can get them for under £20 on Amazon.
 
You don’t use touchID for bank apps. You use biometric unlocking. TouchID just happens to be the way that is surfaced in current iPhones. If Apple replace that with faceID, you could still use your bank apps. Maybe they’d need a quick update
They most likely wouldn’t even need an update - anything that uses TouchID is using a system level API. If that’s just replayed with FaceID or whatever it’s called then the app might not see any difference.
 
fingerprint / touch id before apple "iPhone" implementation = useless and nobody used on laptop or any other consumer device

face id /recognition before apple " iPhone " implementation ... ? *





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windows hello works already in a very good way
 
fingerprint / touch id before apple "iPhone" implementation = useless and nobody used on laptop or any other consumer device

face id /recognition before apple " iPhone " implementation ... ? *





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windows hello works already in a very good way

Windows hello took a while to get good on the surface pro 4. And I don’t know what it’s effective angle of operation is - wonder if anyone has measured it? 120 degrees sounds like it would be needed to be able to unlock a phone from a desk
 
Windows hello took a while to get good on the surface pro 4. And I don’t know what it’s effective angle of operation is - wonder if anyone has measured it? 120 degrees sounds like it would be needed to be able to unlock a phone from a desk

i do have surface pro and it's quite fast already, apple needs only to speed it up this process.

both technology have some drawback
face id = viewing angle and possibly extremely dark environment ? ( don't know for sure)

Touch ID = do not works well with wet finger or slighty dirty finger

today I'm very satisfied with Touch ID ( but only with iPhone implementation, samsung S6- S7-S8, which I do have on works phone device, it's a shitty implementation that it's more frustrating than useful )

tomorrow .. who knows ? maybe Apple really speed it up the recognition process ( which is the question mark on face id) and found a way to improve security ( which is shitty on some other manufacture products.. )


without tangible evidence , I don't think that Apple would release on the most anticipated phone release since iPhone6, a crappy implementation of security login verification, which is, today, one of the very best key selling point for an iPhone device and Apple Pay system



whoever think that remove an OLD plug, as 3.5mm jack from the device, it's the same thing of removing the best tech for touch verification, is simply wrong ..
 
I would be surprised if this turns out to be true.

I mean just anecdotal and all but I've noticed apple pay being used more, would be a puzzling move to take it out as it were gaining traction
 
Thinking about this, it might actually be a good move as long as the angle of detection is good.

No more issues with gloves and no more issues with wet fingers. I can easily unlock it with no effort on my part. Unlocking apps/passwords would also be easier. Let's just hope it works well for a first release. Considering the surface has it (fairly) well done, this shouldn't be too bad. Surface is definitely not perfect though.

Since you're already looking at your phone it might be seamless enough that you feel like there are no barriers to doing things.
 
Thinking about this, it might actually be a good move as long as the angle of detection is good.

No more issues with gloves and no more issues with wet fingers. I can easily unlock it with no effort on my part. Unlocking apps/passwords would also be easier. Let's just hope it works well for a first release. Considering the surface has it (fairly) well done, this shouldn't be too bad. Surface is definitely not perfect though.

Since you're already looking at your phone it might be seamless enough that you feel like there are no barriers to doing things.

Depends how flexible it is. What if you’re wearing sunglasses? A hat? Put on different makeup? Grew a moustache? I would have thought people’s faces change or are obscured by clothing more than fingers are.
 
apple you can fuck off.. lol i wouldnt use either the 6 digit pin is enough...

but now they want yo faces 😐
 
First it's rumored to cost $1000+, now no Touch ID? That's really important feature since I used it regularly for bank apps. Look like I will stick with my SE for awhile.
Where have you been? We've know this for a while now TouchID was gone!

But you'll still be able to use your face to unlock your banking apps.

I do wish TouchID remained however and was shipped with the 3D Facial recognition. But I guess Apple chose what they chose, im willing to be optimistic and see if it's any good before writing it off.

If it's trash, which I believe it will be...not completely anyway, then I'm gonna skip this year and hope next years better.
 
Depends how it works. I mean, if I leave my phone on my desk and walk off will it stay unlocked because I was sitting there 30 seconds earlier?

Also don't know if I'd be that comfortable with my phone being unlocked all the time just because I'm present.
 
Depends how flexible it is. What if you’re wearing sunglasses? A hat? Put on different makeup? Grew a moustache? I would have thought people’s faces change or are obscured by clothing more than fingers are.

I guess that's where this comes in

"Pearl/Face ID is powered by a lot of deep learning, like most of the new iPhone features"
https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/906703786508513280

More you use it the more it learns about the user.
 
100% agreed. The convenience of AirPods/BT cans far outweighs the marginal sound quality decrease.
This just in: most people just don't really give a shit about audiophile quality, and would rather have a more eloquent solution.

And most people really didn't give a shit about airpods until they were forced upon you either.
 
I owned the Jaybirds as well. Dropped that shit and went back to wired. Battery issues are ridiculously infuriating and I don't want to charge something else.

I am beyond thrilled with my Seinheser Momentum 2s. They're costly but they sound phenomenal in wireless mode. They last something like 14 hours on a charge. I plug them in to my computer at work once a week, it's no big deal. Team wireless.
 
Thinking about this, it might actually be a good move as long as the angle of detection is good.

No more issues with gloves and no more issues with wet fingers. I can easily unlock it with no effort on my part. Unlocking apps/passwords would also be easier. Let's just hope it works well for a first release. Considering the surface has it (fairly) well done, this shouldn't be too bad. Surface is definitely not perfect though.

Since you're already looking at your phone it might be seamless enough that you feel like there are no barriers to doing things.
Let's say you're robbin a bank though, and you got a ski mask on. You think there would be enough data points you could quickly unlock and call the getaway?
 
Let's say you're robbin a bank though, and you got a ski mask on. You think there would be enough data points you could quickly unlock and call the getaway?

You're robbing a bank and aren't wearing proper gloves to not leave any possible fingerprints/traces behind?
TouchID (nor the touchscreen, at least not with most gloves) works properly with gloves.
 
You're robbing a bank and aren't wearing proper gloves to not leave any possible fingerprints/traces behind?
TouchID (nor the touchscreen, at least not with most gloves) works properly with gloves.
Hey man, I'm not saying the old phones were any better at this.
 
Sure it is. Any fanboy could be considered a sheep. The whole point is that you blindly follow your shepard.

Whether that shepard is Apple, Google, Microsoft, Samsung, iOS, Android, or something else is mostly irrelevant.

No, no, no. I mean getting extra commission for selling android over iPhone. It's the same regardless of phone.
 
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