The impressive part is that it's rendering some really high quality effects (a lot of them) while also performing really well.
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Is DOOM the most technically impressive game out today?
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The impressive part is that it's rendering some really high quality effects (a lot of them) while also performing really well.
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It runs and looks amazing on my 680 it's a solid ass game.
I disagree, because the "tricked me into thinking its real" bar should be the same for fantasy settings (DOOM) if we are strictly talking about graphics.
Crossing Eden
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There's a free demo, the tech on display in Doom is absolutely fantastic, the motion blur is incredibly sublime. Every model is high poly. The lighting is on point. Really trying to see where they sacrificed anything to get it to look this good visually.
U4 is pretty, but it came nowhere close to having that effect on me. I think we're still quite far from that.
metareferential
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Pretty limited scope (which is perfectly ok for the game, mind you); you rarely see big open environments.
Anyway, I think it's the most impressive game out there. Together with UC4.
hey_it's_that_dog
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That youtube video is actually the most technically impressive game out there today. I don't think I've seen one so smooth and clean before.
I've only played the demo of Doom and I think it looks and feels great but the environments aren't particularly impressive to me. It has a nice look to the rendering but the stuff that is being rendered is not outstanding IMO.
I've only played the demo of Doom and I think it looks and feels great but the environments aren't particularly impressive to me. It has a nice look to the rendering but the stuff that is being rendered is not outstanding IMO.
ffejeromdiks
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People are going to bring up UC4 over and over again in this thread, but it's worth pointing out that most of the effects in UC4 are completely baked, whereas most of Doom's effects are being done in real time.
UC4 looks great no doubt, but it's like comparing a static diorama to the real thing.
UC4 looks great no doubt, but it's like comparing a static diorama to the real thing.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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yes, really. doom on a high difficulty with no HUD really let's it sink in how good it can look. so much shit goes on. plus, this game manages to run at 60ish on consoles, and uncapped on pc. higher framerates are more impressive given the quality of doom's visuals.
What does this even mean?
Yeah, Uncharted 4 uses baked lightmaps. Although even that doesn't mean lighting&shading is cheap.
Kinda ruined by too high fps (60). Looks like a Korean soap opera.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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When did he say the lighting is cheap? He simply said it was baked in, while DOOM has real-time effects like that, making it more technically impressive.
I accidentally played a game at 144fps on my friends monitor once and now I'm blind :/
I was just bringing up the obvious example of something that's baked in U4.
And they didn't say it's cheap, but an overall reduction in cost and complexity would sort of be implied in another product being more impressive, no?
(Although the particulars in this case are a complex can of worms.)
MarcoZombieCannon
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Meaning it's the most impressive game at either framerate. Some people were saying it looked good for 60fps.
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And what's so impressive about Doom is the shit it *doesn't* need to sacrifice to be 60fps on console.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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It is not more technically impressive to use baked lighting over real time lighting. It's not even close.
I think so, yeah. God, DOOM plays so beautifully.
Another good technical video, as well as just show casing the gameplay with a dude whose played A LOT of first person shooters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrvBD4aTGY
Another good technical video, as well as just show casing the gameplay with a dude whose played A LOT of first person shooters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrvBD4aTGY
Insane Metal
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No, but it certainly is one of the best.
I wasn't saying it was, and it certainly isn't if the systems are like-for-like in most other respects. Although in this case they aren't.
I don't find 60fps more impressive looking. I always notice the hits it took to get to that point. In regrds to consoles I will never consider a 60 fps game "technically more impressive" than a 30 fps game. Although DICE has me second guessing that.
30fps itself immediately makes a game technically dire
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Enthusiast PCs aren't taking major hits for 1080/60, and the OP makes it pretty clear he's focusing on the PC version in specific (though I'm not going to speak for him, I'm referring to the video he posted as reference)
Rendering double the frames in the same amount of time is more technically impressive, too.
TheAdmiester
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Have you played an FPS at the pace of DOOM before? 60FPS is vital and it should be aimed for as an absolute minimum. 144FPS is ideal but harder to achieve.
The game is fucking impressive technically. The performance to eye candy ratio is insane, what a fantastic engine.
Also special mention goes to the pristine image quality attainable with some of the AA methods. I don't think I've ever seen such a jaggy free game with the TSAA enabled - outside of downsampling of course.
Also special mention goes to the pristine image quality attainable with some of the AA methods. I don't think I've ever seen such a jaggy free game with the TSAA enabled - outside of downsampling of course.
RedAssedApe
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doom 4 ran like silk on ps4. impressed.
The Dear Leader
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Games incredible, it excels at everything.
I'm even more impressed with the performance boost DOOM got after the Vulkan support was released. ~30% boost is ridiculous.
A-class trolling
johnnydrama
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Doom is not only the most technically impressive game of the year (maybe even this console gen), it is also the best game this year. What an incredible fucking game.
dragonfart28
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Yes, I would agree that the fight for top spot is clearly between Battlefront and Doom.
Battlefront looks better imo.
Not the best video, oh well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioAraKyrfxA
Nope, there are quite large levels and the performance keeps up.
Not the best video, oh well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioAraKyrfxA
Nope, there are quite large levels and the performance keeps up.
I forgot to mention the excellent TSSAA method before. The console implementation is a bit blurry but it's very stable and has phenomenal coverage. Really impressive for a 60fps game.
There was a point in Uncharted 4 that I thought was a piece of concept art as a matte background at first, then I was able to walk right up to it and explore. It was an incredible moment.
I just wish the post processing in Uncharted was better, particularly the motion blur. It stands out with the high quality of everything else. Uncharted's AA method is probably my favorite of any post process solution I've seen. Sharp and great coverage.
There was a point in Uncharted 4 that I thought was a piece of concept art as a matte background at first, then I was able to walk right up to it and explore. It was an incredible moment.
I just wish the post processing in Uncharted was better, particularly the motion blur. It stands out with the high quality of everything else. Uncharted's AA method is probably my favorite of any post process solution I've seen. Sharp and great coverage.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Battlefront has a couple of bloody amazing material shaders but otherwise I'd say Doom was better. My opinion might be coloured by the fact that Doom blows both UC4 and Battlefront out of the goddamn water as a game though.
Wishmaster92
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Photo mode is what really brings out its visuals. Remember this is 60fps with amazing motion blur.
CreepingFear
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I think what's impressive is the visuals+good performance. Crysis had the visuals, but no one ever really got decent performance out of it. You can max Doom out and get good performance on anything less than 4k.
