Is it? The game looks much better to me in motion.
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Is Horizon: Zero Dawn the best looking open world game ever?
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Is it? The game looks much better to me in motion.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Well ask Nintendo as they're the ones who posted them. ¬_¬ The game looks better in motion but let's be honest, so does Horizon, by a long shot.
Vince DiCola
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Skyrim on PC with mods still looks insane. Horizon has WAY better animation though
Neoleo2143
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These are relatively standard pictures. I don't think anyone can argue that Zelda outstrips Horizon technically, it objectively is not true, should that be lambasted against the game? Probably not, since you'd be wasting your breath stating the obvious. Horizon's possibility space is personally less interesting to me than Zelda's possibility space, and that's why I'm excited for Zelda more. That doesn't mean the game won't be good, it'll probably be superb if they keep up the showings. Now artistically, it goes either way, I'm more partial to the impressionist look of Zelda but Horizon's stylized take on reality is excellent as well.
That's a fan edit, these are the original colors
In terms of graphical detail, given what we know of the NX, I'm gonna guess nah.
Still looks better than the overly bloomy and washed out shots from before. The lighting in that seems to have been simplified versus that original screen.
DriftingSpirit
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Why are people disputing which outstanding looking game looks the most outstanding?
Sure. I'm not arguing that Zelda looks better than Horizon, but being mad about someone posting bullshots when everybody is doing the same for Horizon is pretty silly.
Also, publishers send shitty screenshots all the time. Just look at FFXV.
The Lone Courier
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One and done.
Why are all these shots washed out? It's almost like a white equivalent of Codemasters' infamous yellow filter.
Da-Kid
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Fine, I'll explain more why I think Zelda looks better and it's synonymous with the gameplay too.
Basically, Zelda looks more alive and interesting than Horizon both aesthetically, its art style, and in direction. The game isn't as technical visually as Horizon, no doubt about that and Zelda does have flaws and ugly texture here and there but that really doesn't matter. The game looks beautiful enough to look beautiful and accomplish what it's doing mechanically, and gameplay-wise. Zelda looks better because what you're seeing is all possible. It isn't there just to look pretty, it doesn't exist just to be beautiful. You see this huge mountain that's beautiful, yeah... go climb that because you can anyway you see fit.
You're probably thinking "This is comparing the games overall than just visually" the thing is, BOTW visuals and gameplay actually co-exist. There are no rock formations that obviously tell you you can climb there, there are no trees with sore thumb branches telling you can climb it, there is no visual indicator you can cut something down, light it on fire, or use it. It existing is your visual indicator. Am I saying BotW has no restrictions? No. But we've yet to see anything typical of an open world game and it's art style compliments all of this. Seeing and doing are two different things, especially in video games. That rarely looks to be the case in BotW. Seeing is doing and doing is seeing.
Horizon has yet to display anything of that level in all the footage we've seen. That's a beautiful mountain, can I climb it? I doubt you will be in Horizon, we'll see, but I doubt it unless there's a set path which will inevitably limit how high and what you can do. That's why I say Horizon looks typical, it looks like something seen before, it doesn't stand out visually. Visuals only look so beautiful and can only be appreciated so much if all it is is something you can experience or explore optically. Being able to visually and physically is when it's really a beautiful thing.
But that's just me. My point may seem confusing but basically I'm saying Zelda's art style looks visually better than Horizon, and being able to interact with what is visually appealing put it above any technical aspects of Horizons visuals.
Basically, Zelda looks more alive and interesting than Horizon both aesthetically, its art style, and in direction. The game isn't as technical visually as Horizon, no doubt about that and Zelda does have flaws and ugly texture here and there but that really doesn't matter. The game looks beautiful enough to look beautiful and accomplish what it's doing mechanically, and gameplay-wise. Zelda looks better because what you're seeing is all possible. It isn't there just to look pretty, it doesn't exist just to be beautiful. You see this huge mountain that's beautiful, yeah... go climb that because you can anyway you see fit.
You're probably thinking "This is comparing the games overall than just visually" the thing is, BOTW visuals and gameplay actually co-exist. There are no rock formations that obviously tell you you can climb there, there are no trees with sore thumb branches telling you can climb it, there is no visual indicator you can cut something down, light it on fire, or use it. It existing is your visual indicator. Am I saying BotW has no restrictions? No. But we've yet to see anything typical of an open world game and it's art style compliments all of this. Seeing and doing are two different things, especially in video games. That rarely looks to be the case in BotW. Seeing is doing and doing is seeing.
Horizon has yet to display anything of that level in all the footage we've seen. That's a beautiful mountain, can I climb it? I doubt you will be in Horizon, we'll see, but I doubt it unless there's a set path which will inevitably limit how high and what you can do. That's why I say Horizon looks typical, it looks like something seen before, it doesn't stand out visually. Visuals only look so beautiful and can only be appreciated so much if all it is is something you can experience or explore optically. Being able to visually and physically is when it's really a beautiful thing.
But that's just me. My point may seem confusing but basically I'm saying Zelda's art style looks visually better than Horizon, and being able to interact with what is visually appealing put it above any technical aspects of Horizons visuals.
Nice to finally see some gameplay screenshots.You know Da-Kid, you should stop posting rather obvious bullshots.
Zelda looks nice for what it is, an open world Wii U game. It has a pleasant, soothing aesthetic. But that's about it.
Also, can't believe this is compared to Horizon, it's not even close. I mean it has a good art style and is doing things impressive for the hardware, but that's it.
CaptainofIndustry
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From what I've seen, it's definitely a contender.
lucebuce12
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So that our life choices are validated.
Agreed. Even Horizon looks visually better diverse landscapes such as swamps, towns, villages, forests made me appreciate the game even more especially with the fact that game looks amazing.
I've only see them mention if briefly months back but I believe they suggested we would be able to visit some of those overgrown cities of the past. That would be an interesting, different environment than the rest we've seen in the game.
Plus the initial E3 trailer from last year spoke about different tribes and I think it's likely we will see the homebases of these tribes
Callibretto
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What makes zelda look more alive than horizon, some of the footage I've seen look very empty, just the landscPe with grass and trees with maybe monster here and there, in comparison, any horizon video you can see the land filled with various robots behaves like real animals, there are also real wild animals like birds, rabbit, boar etc
R
Rodin
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Which are washed out. The pics, not the game. Here is a comparison a gaffer made with proper gamma
Also the digital foundry video.
Cause it does
http://imgur.com/0C6mcQS
And the scene from 2014 (the original one, not the fan edit posted in the last page) is a real time cutscene, not an "in engine target render". In fact it looks basically the same as the final game, only it's a different area and it's not washed out.
martino
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I actually am not a big fan of the look of this game. I was hoping it would more like this (besides IQ, obviously):
But it just looks flat and washed out and yellow-y.
in two years on cemu it's a possibility.(for iq)
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
He's not posting bullshots though, what Da_Kid was posting was screenshots containing much better IQ than the actual game offers, hence the name bullshot. Compared to what Jett posted, i.e. direct feed screenshots of gameplay.
The geometry in that original reveal trailer was most likely an incredibly small map meant to show as many things as possible for the purposes of that video only and likely doesn't exist anymore. It was in-engine, but it was definitely not representative of what the game looks like. Just the style and gameplay concepts like being in a huge open world. Also those gifs are also incredibly small and do a really good job of hiding the visual shortcomings.
martino
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Not sure distant cliff vegetation is not that great...
Neoleo2143
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It's the extremely high level of interaction with just about everything with little apparent automation, from catching bugs by running and jumping, to climbing a cliffside by observing its inclines and where you can rest (rather than the uncharted style where you press a to go up), to the locomotion you can achieve by combining, shield surfing and gliding with stamina items. And that footage wasn't controlled unlike most of Horizon's footage, I have little doubt that the Great Plateau is exactly how the game will start.
CrimsonSquall
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Well if you're going off the FPS then u would be correct. Graphical fidelity was unchanged however
martino
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you have 2 choice you go objective and it's any recent pc max setting open world...
on go subjective and it's opinion and zelda can apply.
Jawbreaker
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And I'm not sure what you mean in regards to the canyon area. Are you saying they created a huge canyon/desert area for no reason and that it can't be explored?
family_guy
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Here's my problem with the Witcher 3. It's too big, which makes it difficult to gauge where you are, so most of the time you're fast traveling or following the map navigation icon. There's not enough landmarks that standout for you to know where the heck you are. Now take a smaller game like Bloodborne or Dark Souls. Traverse them enough and you can pretty much navigate them by memory alone. You don't need a map because every area is pretty distinct.
I'm always for that objective man when it comes to technical graphics!!! Art styles tend to be subjective in most cases.
LifeBrandRobot
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On console? Of course, it's not even up for debate.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Again you're talking about gameplay concepts, not visuals, I don't think you know enough about technical specifics to really be objective in this discussion, i'm more excited for Zelda than Horizon, which I really don't care for as a game based on the footage they've shown, but that doesn't mean I need to be disingenuous and prop up what's essentially a visually pleasing wii U game when it comes to visuals when there are a lot of other things to prop up, like the gameplay, or how much better the animation is compared to previous Zelda games. It absolutely doesn't compare to Horizon though, and dude, that's ok.
Damn.
neurosyphilis
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It's a Sony 1st party game, of course it's going to look better than anything out.
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Tl;tr: but but the gameplay!!1
I shouldn't have commented on this thread , but this is some destiny level stuff.
Yautja_Warrior
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Funny all the Witcher 3 talk because Horizon gives me Witcher 3 vibes.
Khalifa Jayy
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denile ain't just a river, boy, lemme tell you.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Pretty good case study for why a lot of video games avoid long unkempt hair.
GravityInsanity
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Star Citizen for me is a tricky one. That game is set mostly in outer space. There are planets you can travel to but it's all mostly dark, grey and futuristic. I have yet to see grass in that game.
Da-Kid
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Well there is a such thing as art you can both look at and interact with. That's the case here. But sure, ignore the points I made.
neurosyphilis
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That's supposed to be impressive ? Journey looks better than that still.
Horizon just looks boring, its technical feats are OK. But it has nothing that makes it stand out whereas Zelda looks breathtaking.
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gundamkyoukai
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I really wonder if we ever going to get that right in real time.
Hair just really hard to do the longer the harder .
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