PanicFreak
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Haze was billed as a Halo-killer. TitanFall is being billed as TitanFall. This thing is going to be HUGE.
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Is it possible that Titanfall will tank/underwhelm sales wise?
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Haze was billed as a Halo-killer. TitanFall is being billed as TitanFall. This thing is going to be HUGE.
Prince Vultan
Banned
It was? Where?
they feed on each other, in fact.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Eh no seriously manufactured hype would be destiny, the game had a freaking media circus for it's unveil man it's unveil which was announced well before it was shown, why are people not talking it like they are for titanfall because they weren't as impressed by what they saw, you can compare the comments on this or most forums to see that.
Games media has a lot of power but it can't single-handedly change the opinion of what someone as seen first hand, otherwise every well marketed game would sell well. Ryse isn't suddenly going to sell gangbusters just because Microsoft is pushing it because people didn't like what they saw when they first saw it. People need to you know actually like what they see a lot before you can hype it to the moon, that's why it's not manufactured as manufacturing hype isn't some simple thing.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
CoD numbers on a new IP? Lol, nope. But I expect it to clear 5 million sales easily. Titanfall 2 could do CoD numbers tho, if the first game is a huge hit.
Randolph Freelander
Member
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Not everyone's that gullible. At the end of the day people have to be interested.
Unless it's super-vanilla sci-fi or Alien, it won't have great mainstream appeal. Also, they should've made this an exclusive for XBO to really drive the sales to that platform, or at least have backcom with 360 games.
Does this game allow ANY offline play? Everything I've read, even down to this interview from a couple weeks ago here, it sounds like it is mandatory online connection. Do you need Gold just to connect to the dedicated servers running the physics and AI to play the game in single player?
46 million Xbox Live subscribers of Silver and Gold are out there. Are they all able to play the game or is it just the 20-25 million Gold subscribers as possible players on the Xbox side? Or is there an offline mode and the potential audience is 77 million Xbox owners plus all PC owners?
On the PC side, I'm definitely interested as it does NOT require Windows 8 (thank GOD).
46 million Xbox Live subscribers of Silver and Gold are out there. Are they all able to play the game or is it just the 20-25 million Gold subscribers as possible players on the Xbox side? Or is there an offline mode and the potential audience is 77 million Xbox owners plus all PC owners?
On the PC side, I'm definitely interested as it does NOT require Windows 8 (thank GOD).
SomethingInTheSea
Member
Usually when this much marketing push is put behind a product its at least reasonably successful.
Senor Kami
Banned
It may tank by the Square-Enix anything less than 10 million in month 1 is a flop sense of the word tank but not by the definition people with at least half a brain use.
Prince Vultan
Banned
Haha... oh dear. Wikipedia as a source? Also, I just read the article that is used as citation on Wiki there, and it's to some site I never heard of weighing up various FPS releases in the run up to Halo 3 to "measure the competition". The Haze preview has a throwaway line about being a "potential Halo-killer". Seemingly the previewer hadn't played it at that point
Is that the only source for this you have? I was around for Haze's release and didn't see anyone "bill it as a Halo-killer".
Off-Kilter
Banned
Highly unlikely. It looks like a game that will move a lot of copies, even if doesn't do too well critically.
Haha... oh dear. Wikipedia as a source? Also, I just read the article that is used as citation on Wiki there, and it's to some site I never heard of weighing up various FPS releases in the run up to Halo 3 to "measure the competition". The Haze preview has a throwaway line about being a "potential Halo-killer". Seemingly the previewer hadn't played it at that point
Is that the only source for this you have? I was around for Haze's release and didn't see anyone "bill it as a Halo-killer".
I distinctly remember that mentioned on at least a few podcasts. I don't think Haze ever had the kind of push Titanfall has though, and Titanfall is releasing on multiple platforms. I think it's fair to say that Titanfall will sell more than Killzone SF with ease. Destiny I'm not sure, but if they market enough I'm sure that will sell a ton also by just throwing "creators of Halo" around.
PanicFreak
Member
Smelting. You start with hype precursor and melt it down into pure hype that blinds innocent bystanders. Hype precursor is typically around 30 percent hype; therefore for 1 pound of precursor you can get .30 pounds of hype. To reach optimum hype levels, it's best if you get high quality hype precursor. However, that usually comes at a cost premium so generally it is reserved for only the largest games in the industry.
During the hype smelting process, you end up with byproducts. Generally, the byproducts are game previews and threads on message boards. If you get too much byproduct, you end up with a ton of poor game previews and people on message boards saying "Press A to Awesome" or, in the worst cases, "Meh."
However, by using the high quality precursor, you end up with only tiniest morsels of byproducts and generally the media latches on to these tiny morsels to heap praise on a game. It is known that Rockstar uses 99 percent pure hype precursor for GTA, which can only be found in the most remote regions of Patagonia and in the deepest crevices of the Pacific Ocean.
I hope this helps.
Prince Vultan
Banned
Game releasing on 3 platforms outsell game releasing on one platform that will have a tiny install base for quite some time?
Don't stick your neck out too far now
Randolph Freelander
Member
Haha... oh dear. Wikipedia as a source? Also, I just read the article that is used as citation on Wiki there, and it's to some site I never heard of weighing up various FPS releases in the run up to Halo 3 to "measure the competition". The Haze preview has a throwaway line about being a "potential Halo-killer". Seemingly the previewer hadn't played it at that point
Is that the only source for this you have? I was around for Haze's release and didn't see anyone "bill it as a Halo-killer".
Every exclusive FPS of any renown has invariably been labelled by fans or media a potential "Halo killer" pre-release, usually to fall short upon release (much like every Halo game since CE, but I digress). This is just one of the things people came to live with.
At any rate, if you simply search "haze halo killer," it's not like you'll find a shortage of threads and articles touting (and lampooning, in the interests of fairness) such a notion.
darkistheway
Member
Shadowrun?
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
This. I think Destiny also represents the next evolution of online gaming more so than Titanfall, will be interesting if the mainstream feels the same.
What games are there that are like that? I really am genuinely curious. It will probably sell well on PC, and anyone who owns an XBO who has Gold will probably buy it. 360 owners that haven't moved on and still pay for Gold will be a potential audience.
So the potential audience looks like 25 million on console and uhh...an uncountable amount on PC.
NoirVisage
Banned
I don't remember it being billed a halo killer either, wikipedia isn't the best source to stake your rep on, in this case "some" could mean one. Hell it might have been a quote from you they're refering to
M.A.G. was one.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Man you are the great hype engineer of our time.
Prince Vultan
Banned
It's probably not worth looking any harder at really. Haze is a piece of shit and I'm having trouble believing anyone in the media seriously suggested it was going to be a "Halo-killer" at the time. Even from earliest impressions it was clear that shit stank.
Game releasing on 3 platforms outsell game releasing on one platform that will have a tiny install base for quite some time?
Don't stick your neck out too far now
Please don't get mad. Killzone doesn't move that many units even without COD or Battlefield releasing at the same time. People are acting like Titanfall has to sell 6 million on a single platform to be deemed a success. Doing Gears of War numbers like 3 million would be a smashing success. People don't even know the budget or what expectations are.
PanicFreak
Member
You're right, the developers didn't claim that but it was a prevalent thought at the time. I got 4,300 hits on: Haze "halo killer".
CadetMahoney
Member
A quick google is all that's needed really.
Prince Vultan
Banned
Wuh? Where are you getting "mad" from? I was agreeing with you!
Internet is required. If you get the Bone version then Gold is required, not for PC though.
Sorry it was also the disbelief that people said or believed Haze was a Halo killer. I distinctly remember that talk on forums, but I'm not sure whether magazines or press had the balls to actually say that stuff.
Even for just botted single player? Well that greatly reduces the potential audience. It will do fine in sales, but not CoD gangbusters good by any stretch.
partyphone
Banned
As long as it comes out on PC in a non-broken form I'm definitely buying it.
I'm genuinely curious as well.
Many predict sure-fire COD-ish success, but being MP-only on consoles and with big, mainstream aspirations, it is trying to achieve something that is largely unprecedented.
Mister Wilhelm
Member
Dude..what does it possibly have to compete with?
The next COD which will inevitably a retread of the last few piles of shit?
Full disclosure: I was a huge COD fan MW/2 era.
The next COD which will inevitably a retread of the last few piles of shit?
Full disclosure: I was a huge COD fan MW/2 era.
Isn't Battlefield EA's Call of Duty?
EA doesn't even own the Titanfall IP, it is published through EA Partners. Respawn can literally take the franchise to another publisher for the sequel.
What do you play now.
EA doesn't even own the Titanfall IP, it is published through EA Partners. Respawn can literally take the franchise to another publisher for the sequel.
What do you play now.
KojiKnight
Member
It's going to get a lot of sales, but it'll be another "under performer" in line with Tomb Raider. "Yeah it sold well, but we were expecting it to sellf 10 mil and 5 mil in hardware.