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[shanew21]

BS. Where's the UHD drive? Where's the Pad? Where's the compact chassis?

Did you read the article?

 

[Diablos]

Because it's actually in a similar performance range. The Scorpio is 6 TFLOPS, like a decently overclocked 480, which in itself is similar to a decently overclocked 1060. 4k in medium settings at 30 FPS is definitely doable on my 480 in games like Gears of War 4.

1060 is pretty much the same level of performance as the GPU in Scorpio. It can do 4k easily, just not at ultra settings and 60fps when the game is 30 fps on consoles.

Wow, really?

What about all the uber hax MS put under the hood like embedded DX12 instructions?

I guess what I am asking is if a game can run at 4K/60fps on X1X but not my 1060 why would that be?

 

[Steel]

Wow, really?

What about all the uber hax MS put under the hood like embedded DX12 instructions?

I guess what I am asking is if a game can run at 4K/60fps on X1X but not my 1060 why would that be?

One of two reasons:

A: Lower settings than what you're running on the 1060

B: The X1X has unique settings(like console versions often do) like baked shadows instead of dynamic ones, or dynamic resolution scaling to maintain performance.

If you aim for 30fps most modern cards can do 4k, in either case.

 

[Diablos]

One of two reasons:

A: Lower settings than what you're running on the 1060

B: The X1X has unique settings(like console versions often do) like baked shadows instead of dynamic ones, or dynamic resolution scaling to maintain performance.

If you aim for 30fps most modern cards can do 4k, in either case.

Wow, so it goes back to the same old stuff then, I see.
I am really surprised that X1X is not as powerful as we initially assumed it would be.
I never planned on buying one, but it's kind of cool to know my 1060 can compete.

 

[poppabk]

No it's not possible currently, in a years time, almost definitely. I think it is interesting that the conversation used to be about whether you could build a PC that could match console performance at all, now it's can you build a PC to match performance at the same price point.

 

[PumpkinSpice]

What about all the uber hax MS put under the hood like embedded DX12 instructions?

That is to reduce CPU load.

 

[QuantumSquid]

I don't think so.

 

[TC McQueen]

Okay, based on this video, you might be able to pull this off with a Ryzen 5 1400:
Tech City [YouTube] —— Is a $160 CPU Enough for Gaming? [R5 1400 @ 4GHz -vs- i7 7700K @ 5GHz]

Aside from GTA 5 and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, the 1500 manages to get into the 100s of FPS at 1080p, so you could probably get 4K 30FPS. I wouldn't be surprised if there are coding optimizations that could be made for the engines (if the devs were allowed), judging by how Rise of the Tomb Raider had a huge jump after a patch.

 

[TheExodu5]

Okay, based on this video, you might be able to pull this off with a Ryzen 5 1400:
Tech City [YouTube] —— Is a $160 CPU Enough for Gaming? [R5 1400 @ 4GHz -vs- i7 7700K @ 5GHz]

Aside from GTA 5 and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, the 1500 manages to get into the 100s of FPS at 1080p, so you could probably get 4K 30FPS. I wouldn't be surprised if there are coding optimizations that could be made for the engines (if the devs were allowed), judging by how Rise of the Tomb Raider had a huge jump after a patch.

CPU demands don't scale with resolution. A cheap Intel Dual-Core should actually be more than enough for 30fps and is your best bet if you're going for an extreme budget build.

 

[TC McQueen]

CPU demands don't scale with resolution. A cheap Intel Dual-Core should actually be more than enough for 30fps and is your best bet if you're going for an extreme budget build.

At 4K? A dual core would probably bottleneck the GPU at that resolution.

 

[TheExodu5]

At 4K? A dual core would probably bottleneck the GPU at that resolution.

4K does not impose more demands on a CPU than 1080p.

The bottleneck will certainly be the GPU. Lower the resolution and the bottleneck slides towards the CPU. Raise the resolution, and the bottleneck slides towards the GPU.

Of course, this would be on a game-by-game basis. Games with lower GPU demands running at 60fps on X1X might run into a CPU bottleneck on the PC with a budget dual-core.

 

[TwilightPrincess]

The problem is going to be the CPU and motherboard. I wouldn't recommend anything less than a Ryzen 5, preferably a 1600, just due to how many current gen engines seem to be using more threads, but the CPU alone is $220 and the motherboard is in the $100-110 range outside of sales. That doesn't leave a lot of room for a GPU and all the other parts you need, plus Windows 10.

Yeah but thats ten times better than the CPU in Scorpio.

 

[ZOONAMI]

Yeah but thats ten times better than the CPU in Scorpio.

And if you have a microcenter near you you can get the board basically for free with the ryzen 5.