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Is it time to bring back the light gun?
- Thread starter Xplainin
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Pretty sure traditional lightguns don't work on modern TVs. You'd have to just do what the Wii did and have a shell casing for a motion controller.
Anecdotally the Switch Joycon works fine in arcade shooting games, you could easily make a handgun shell and stick one in.
Anecdotally the Switch Joycon works fine in arcade shooting games, you could easily make a handgun shell and stick one in.
Optimistic Gamer
Member
Lightguns are the one "gimmick" that never should have died. So many great bullshit games <3
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
I was playing some Wii games yesterday and thought it would be great to have lightguns and IR pointers come back. There was/is so much potential in the technology. I'd love it if VR akimbo controllers could be used to play games on a standard display. Wiimote was way ahead of its time.
INC
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sonomamashine
Member
Resedent Evil Village VR.
Throttle
Member
MasterCornholio
Member
Yes please
EverydayBeast
ChatShitGPT Alpha 0.001
PS VR is qualified enough to be in people's living rooms.
Way to go.Get a VR headset and an aim controller:
drotahorror
Member
Love light-gun games. Although not technically a light-gun game, the best on-rails shooter I've ever played is Kid Icarus Uprising on the 3DS.
Are there any on-rails shooters for the Switch? Would definitely be fun.
Are there any on-rails shooters for the Switch? Would definitely be fun.
Soleil rouge
Member
Yeah I'm all for it. Even if just for VR.
Laugh all you want, but I actually enjoyed Mad Dog Mcree on the 3DO.
Laugh all you want, but I actually enjoyed Mad Dog Mcree on the 3DO.
fastest finger
Member
PSVR has been scratching this particular itch for years.
Just need Sega to get off their asses as bring some of their gun game franchises into the VR realm.
Just need Sega to get off their asses as bring some of their gun game franchises into the VR realm.
MastaKiiLA
Member
Yes please. Next-gen Time Crisis with VR. Day 1 for me.
stranno
Member
John Mullins
Banned
HELP ME
DON'T SHOOT ME
*BLAMM!!*
(arrrgh)
DON'T SHOOT ME
*BLAMM!!*
(arrrgh)
JimiNutz
Banned
Yes please
Fuck I loved this game, especially in local MP.
It was even fun on the DS! Developing those fast finger skills.
Fuz
Banned
You see a rifle but you feel a dildo.Get a VR headset and an aim controller:
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Only time I played gun games at home was renting Point Blank on PS1 and renting a Saturn to test out some games including Virtua Cop.
PB was awesome. There must have been 50 cheesy random games. And every time you played them they seemed to randomize the locations. Virtua Cop was shit. The entire game was linear and based on memory.
I'd be interested if gun games worked on modern tvs and it's PB kind of games where there's replayabiity.
For arcades, I enjoyed playing Operation Wolf and Lethal Enforcers, but I probably only plunked in $3 worth each so don't care (or remember) how linear they were in enemy placements.
PB was awesome. There must have been 50 cheesy random games. And every time you played them they seemed to randomize the locations. Virtua Cop was shit. The entire game was linear and based on memory.
I'd be interested if gun games worked on modern tvs and it's PB kind of games where there's replayabiity.
For arcades, I enjoyed playing Operation Wolf and Lethal Enforcers, but I probably only plunked in $3 worth each so don't care (or remember) how linear they were in enemy placements.
SirTerry-T
Member
I'm pretty sure for those of us who can't afford a VR setup, lightguns that work with modern TV's and consoles would be more than welcome.
I do miss Virtua Cop 2, HOTD and Time Crisis.
I do miss Virtua Cop 2, HOTD and Time Crisis.
Resenge
Member
Is this what your looking for?
The Sinden Lightgun is the world's first true LCD television compatible Lightgun.
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MeatSafeMurderer
Member
They don't. It's to do with display lag. For all the talk about it no longer being a problem...lightgun games still won't work. Ever wonder why the screen flashes when you pull the trigger in a lightgun game? It's not just for fun / visuals, by whiting out the screen or targets the sensor in the gun can tell whether you're pointing it at an enemy. The problem? The timing on this extremely tight, so tight that the display lag of a modern flat panel, as low as it is, is still too damn high.
Fuz
Banned
No. Through the visor you see a rifle. In the real world you feel a dildo.
YOU LET YOUR KIDS RECORD YOU WHILE YOU BEAT YOUR SABER?I wont ever let my kids record me playing Beat Saber again
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Never knew that was the reason. I thought it had to do with the glass where a CRT works and an LED/LCD didn't reflect the laser light correct or something.
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ConkerTheSquirrel.
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I've been eyeing a light-gun game for the PS1 for a while now. Unfortunately, trying to find a full set for a reasonable price is... well...
Beautiful looking game, though.
Beautiful looking game, though.
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dan76
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VR is an easy fit for all those great old lightgun games, but they don't get ported. Sure I can play Arizona Sunshine but it's not House of the Dead is it.
I'd love them to return but new games only seem to get released in arcades in Japan, so Teknoparrot and a dolphin bar or aimtrak guns will have to do for now.
I'd love them to return but new games only seem to get released in arcades in Japan, so Teknoparrot and a dolphin bar or aimtrak guns will have to do for now.
Resenge
Member
You can play all those light gun games in EmuVR including House of the dead exactly how they played back in the day with emulated TVs.
See my post above.
EmuVR playing emulated light gun games.
Throttle is correct, light gun games have evolved into VR which is much better than the old school shooting at a square TV imo.
namekuseijin
Banned
it's 2020 and we have VR
you can point your virtual gun in your hand in any direction around you, not just point at a TV in front of you
that's how you play even flat game ports like Borderlands
you can point your virtual gun in your hand in any direction around you, not just point at a TV in front of you
that's how you play even flat game ports like Borderlands
There's a big gameplay distinction between the two. You can't get the same style of gameplay as something like Time Crisis 5 with full freedom of movement.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
EmuVR playing emulated light gun games.
None of the made-for-VR games are as good as something from SEGA or Namco though. Most are bleh-paced and unfulfilling wave shooters. The Crisis VRigade games are nowhere near as good as Time Crisis, Drop Dead is one of the better VR games in that style but doesn't feel anywhere near as good as The House of the Dead games and so on. But EmuVR is still janky, at least on my specs, I can basically play a handful of games great on it, some from Dreamcast, some from PS1 (and I didn't even try to run 3D stuff on Mame, that probably doesn't work well even out of VR for now, specific system emulators are way faster), we have a long way to go for it to be viable for the bulk of those games. Still, The House of the Dead 2 is one of those that work great for me and it beats anything made for VR. I really hope EmuVR keeps improving but it's not doing so very fast these days (solo dev). Perhaps one day RetroArch itself will simply work in VR or someone else will make a better VR implementation, or EmuVR will be polished and optimized further. Until that happens then the Sinden lightgun is probably going to be better sooner and more viable with more emulators and games out of the box (and hopefully also cause more emulators to work on/improve their lightgun features).
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They also have a deal with Polymega for a lightgun but I dunno specifics or who knows if it will even become a thing, if Polymega sells enough, etc.
Polymega's New Light Gun for HDTVs.
Polymega™ has a new light gun compatible with HDTV's. RGC01 is powered by the Sinden Light Gun and is compatible with Sega Saturn, PS1, NES, SNES, and more.
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Edit: Pistol Whip might be better than Drop Dead in the tight precise gameplay feel of lightgun games when played with the deadeye modifier! It doesn't have the variety of scenarios and stuff, sure the levels differ but the enemies and stuff show up in similar ways, you always beeline forward etc. I still love it though.
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INC
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SkylineRKR
Member
Its time to bring them lightgun games to VR.
namekuseijin
Banned
no problem, most VR games come with comfort options for VRgins, including the infamous teleport locomotion system
I've seen whole games built around node-based locomotion - notably Bravo Team and Blood and Truth - and some others actually mimicking old limited laserguns arcade games - like Mortal Blitz or Operation Warcade...
you can do a lot more in VR, but you can also less just fine
namekuseijin
Banned
you mean old, retro arcade games, because there are plenty of these already. They're mostly shovelware wave shooters
SkylineRKR
Member
Yup. Virtua Cop 3, House of the Dead etc.
Panzer Dragoon VR is still coming. Its something.
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ShinNL
Member
Just realized how much of a missed opportunity it is to have the IR camera reversed and shortranged on the Joy-Con and ... the dock not featuring 2 IR lights like the sensor bar. It's standing there near my TV anyway. Damn, that would've really wrapped up the Switch as all Nintendo consoles in one.
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namekuseijin
Banned
I think people put too much emphasis on known names. What was Star Fox or Virtua Cop back when they launched? Virtual unknowns, just like, say Stardust Odyssey or Blood and Truth.
if Sega's VR port of Space Channel is any indication, expect to be severely disappointing. But hey, they can still make good money from people waiting for names rather than games...