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[Topher]

I think intent can be a component of this too. Veilguard is a good example of this. That game reflected the values of the people who worked on it. That's why we ended up with, for example, a widely circulated video where a trans man lavished praise on the game for such things as top scars in the character creator. On the flip side, fans of the series got a game that failed in every possible way (story, characters, world building, etc.) - it was basically Dragon Age in name only.

So, on top of lacking talent in some cases, there's also times when talent is there (some of the writers for Veilguard had significant successes in the past) but it's not used to make a game that will appeal to fans or even create a good/great game. It's used to impose their values and interests - no matter if it suits the game or not. It's a kind of myopic selfishness that, personally, I'm just beyond tired of seeing. It also has consequences too - failed games, lay offs, and in some cases, like Dragon Age, I wouldn't be surprised if the IP is now permanently shelved.

Agree 100%. Veilguard was by far the most egregious offender in this regard. The trans game director used the game as a soap box to preach his agenda to the world. And EA let him. It was a travesty.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I get the complaint about threads.

But maybe you should be more upset at the retards making the games?

 

[Dacvak]

I vote that we just have one "woke slop |OT|" thread where everyone can just discuss any new game in there and keep it all in one place.

 

[PeteBull]

I won't suggest anyone to post or not post something. I can simply ignore the topic.

That said, I do not believe some of the games we think are woke, are really woke.

We are tilting and windmills, a lot.

When in doubt i encourage u do to some simple though experiment, would such a game/movie/overall enteirtainment product be launched in the 80s and 90s, if yes we know game isnt woke, if 80s/90s crowd would find it weird/clownworld, there is very high chance game is pandering/pushing woke agenda.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

or just have one mega thread to put all woke slop commentary in, we really don't need a new thread every time a game is about to come out and/or a trailer releases -_-

This. Clogging the forum with woke slop threads is getting old.

 

[KanKamAndNob]

"Gayming".

Yeah, they are taking the piss out of the hobby. They never cared about it, they only wanted to insert themselves and their agenda into it, like in every other hobby.

This is what happens when you are more worried about being called an "ist" by a bunch of mentally ill people and agenda pushers. Did you make sure that you established you are not?



Making "woke slop" threads isn't going to change anything. Instead you should have gatekept more. Made them feel unwelcome before they could spread. Now it's terminal.

We didn't gatekeep enough with Sarkeesian. Now look. The parasite is still ficking here infesting studios like it's still 2013. And that's not including all the other damage the tapeworm managed to do in the decade in-between.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Slop (na-na, na, na-na)
Slop is slop (na-na, na, na-na)
Slop-a-bop-bop-bop, slop (na-na, na, na-na)

 

[Boss Mog]

That's really interesting....do we also complain about this one then?

Or do we just stick with OP and highlight the black, lgbt, and female-focused events for maximum ragebait?

Shouldn't you be asking the OP this question instead? But regardless, it seems like another bad faith attempt to "gotcha" me. First off when, I said Asian, it's pretty obvious I meant East Asian (Japan, South Korea and China). Southeast Asia does not refer to those countries, it's more Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, etc... and so maybe I would include this event as detrimental, but I don't know enough about the game devs in those countries and if they push cultural and political propaganda in their games.

What I do know, is that the devs who promote their games through black, lgbt or women only events do have clear agendas they want to push that don't align with what I and many others consider quality gaming. East Asian studios, don't promote east asians in particular in their games, they don't shove "progressive" ideology down your throat and they don't put ugly women everywhere. They also don't hire devs based on identity politics, they just pick the best ones which allows for good character designs, good story, good graphics and good gameplay.

 

[yurinka]

Is it time to start giving people a break for starting woke slop threads?

I'm deadly serious here.

There are too much agenda-driven showcases that push certain titles just because they're made by groups that are somewhat still marked as "marginalized".

In the meantime, AA and indie titles made by developers that don't fall under these categories will probably be pushed aside.

What is it time to start giving people a break from woke slop games and events, plus from turning woke classic studios and IPs, or to stop getting certain classic IPs or getting gaming icon characters removed/replaced because of wokism.

 

[zokie]

"Silence is the deadliest of all weapons."
(often used in discussions about speaking up)

if you do not speak up , this woke games will continue to flood the industry even more

 

[samoilaaa]

Disgusting, for real. When will the industry return to normal?

when people will stop buying their games sooo never

naughty dog game will be woke and will still have 10+ million copies sold

wolverine will be woke and will still have 10+ million copies sold

larian next game will be woke and will still have 10+ million copies sold

etc.

Sure there are games that are woke but are good ( some very good actually ) but i would rather not buy the game even if it ticks all the boxes , for example baldur's gate 3 is a great rpg with alot of freedom and choice/consequence but i pirated it and i will pirate their next game too until i see them stop celebrating lgbtq stuff and start using male/female at character creation

 

[dDoc]

Yes, the only way corporations will change is if they feel their pocket hurt.

Seems this does happen of late. Hopefully it brings the change we desire.

 

[ahtlas7]

You have my support. But just use declaratives though. Everyone, including those who argue contrarily, know those games are woke slop.