This seems like such a weird place for such an argument. This is a show aimed at preschoolers, right? Do they even understand concepts like "glass ceiling"?
That's interesting, though at some point it sounds like a conflation between the idea of active/passive roles in the conversation. When Joss Whedon made the comment forever ago responding to why he writes about strong women saying "Because you are still asking me the question," my take away was that people generally sided with his stance.
Despite being a Sonic Cartoon in 201X and being based on one of the most hated Sonic things to exist, this show is pretty good for what it is. It's a pretty fun watch.
Heres a picture of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles in a boy band called Dreamboat Express
Eh, well knuckles was native american if anything. So I guess he got moved off his reservation, considering sega doesn't like actually doing his job anymore.
second, no, of course it's not. Gender inequality is the status quo. I mean, I get what he's saying that it doesn't have to be acknowledged every time it happens, but I prefer overemphasis over trying to pretend it isn't.
I need to know why people are cracking up about this. Is it just Knuckle's strange facial expression? Is there an extra genuis layer to this joke my plebian brain isn't percieving?
But said glass ceiling is a matter of confidence here, about how society teaches girls that they can't be better than boys at sports - and if they can, they're the exception.
It's not like the glass ceiling in a professional environment, where patriarchy actively undermines women's successes and careers. Wage gap, sexist jokes, manterrupting, the kind of thing that actually deserves to be pointed out and discussed.
The statement might be clunky. But honestly it's already hard to discuss this matter between adults in a comprehensive fashion.
That is actually anti-feminist. Calling out inequality does not undermine inequality. As long as we haven't reached it, there will only be exceptions. We aren't at status quo, and pretending we are isn't going to get us there. What a stupid pointy handed rodent.
Amy is basically self-depreciating by asking whether or not a woman can be as good as a man, he's saying that the question implies that women are inherently worse than men at sports and that she's setting herself as an exception should she succeed
So is it mansplaining if he's basically telling her she shouldn't feel held back by her gender ?
That's the intention of it, yes, and that's what I picked up on too, but apparently for most this flew completely over their heads. As stated, it's the Lisa Simpson joke where she wanted to play football so she could prove girls can do what boys, only to be shut down once she noticed there were already other girls playing.
That is actually anti-feminist. Calling out inequality does not undermine inequality. As long as we haven't reached it, there will only be exceptions. We aren't at status quo, and pretending we are isn't going to get us there. What a stupid pointy handed rodent.
depressingly so! Knuckles when introduced was a tribal creature, an analogue for south America tribes, a proud and stoic warrior
Or that's what I saw as a kid playing Sonic 3&K
As I got older and the Adventure games came out he seems to retain that somewhat, but went less tribal more jock
and now were at full on sack of meat with no brain
I thought the point of his line was that women can obviously already perform as well as men athletically, taking away from her statement that she'd be the one to prove it once and for all? Though I get where the confusion is coming from; the line is written clunkily to try and sound smarter.
depressingly so! Knuckles when introduced was a tribal creature, an analogue for south America tribes, a proud and stoic warrior
Or that's what I saw as a kid playing Sonic 3&K
As I got older and the Adventure games came out he seems to retain that somewhat, but went less tribal more jock
and now were at full on sack of meat with no brain
About this, someone told me that because the translating was wonky during that era, it's suppose to read that Eggman is a "womanizer." Not a "feminist"
It's up to interpretation. The line can be seen as claiming that drawing any attention to inequality is itself sexist, which is an argument usually deployed in an attempt to shut down feminist discussion.
On the other hand, the statement is being directed at a close friend, and so it is easy to see it as Knuckles showing support for Amy, and trying to say that she shouldn't place herself below the men of the group as she has done here, as Knuckles believes she is already their equal and that he is merely disagreeing with the idea that she has to 'break through' anything at all when she is with them.
Frankly, we can't fully appreciate the statement without knowledge of Knuckles' greater feminist beliefs and the actions he takes with regards to them.
I need to know why people are cracking up about this. Is it just Knuckle's strange facial expression? Is there an extra genuis layer to this joke my plebian brain isn't percieving?
Well for me it's the subversion of the answer he gave. He completely ignores the first half of the question and gives an out of context self deprecation answer to the second half of the question. Also the delivery and speed of said delivery is spot on.
It's up to interpretation. The line can be seen as claiming that drawing any attention to inequality is itself sexist, which is an argument usually deployed in an attempt to shut down feminist discussion.
On the other hand, the statement is being directed at a close friend, and so it is easy to see it as Knuckles showing support for Amy, and trying to say that she shouldn't place herself below the men of the group as she has done here, as Knuckles believes she is already their equal and that he is merely disagreeing with the idea that she has to 'break through' anything at all when she is with them.
Frankly, we can't fully appreciate the statement without knowledge of Knuckles' greater feminist beliefs and the actions he takes with regards to them.
And honestly I take it more as shitting on a really terrible trope that plagued many a cartoon. You know those girl power episodes? I'm all for gender equality, but when the show does something like this, 90% of the time it's written terrible. Suddenly the cast becomes an ass to each other. Suddenly the character who is always useful and never complained about anything suddenly has "problems" and needs to prove himself.
but that was a good episode? go watch it, it's not just a strawman, you actually get female characters telling that you should follow the law regardless of your gender, and that they used a historical example of a female person not wanting to be treated special as a sign of equality
obviously real life is more complex, but that explanation is pretty valid
