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Is Support For VITA already dying? [Use the new thread]
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Castor Krieg
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Vita must drop to 150EUR, I need it for DJ Max.
Of the 15 people that own a Vita, 14 bought FIFA and I don't like football.
I thought you already had on (and sold it later) ^^
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
You live in the UK and don't like football? You must be an expat American.
odhiex
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They will launch it later than the others... with the name PESVITA instead of PES 2013??
HAHAHAHA sadlaugh.jpg
Nah, born & bred. I am the exception to the rule though, relatives didn't stop buying me football shirts until I was about 15!
Sintoid
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There must be a better reason than funny internet jokes...
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Oh well, at least you're not a Liverpool fan!
Poor Vita sales, maybe? I can't really think of any other explanation.
They already have an engine for those games...they will look the same....where as the ps3/360 versions willl look better with more features....i doubt the psp version will have all these announced new features.....its a quick cash in. Understandably so, i'm sure Konami right now is consentrated on trying to win back the console gamers first and foremost.
Same thing with the Euro 2012 DLC ...it is designed to work with the Fifa 12 engine..hense the PS3/360 release...where as the Vita version is based off the Fifa 11 engine (with updated graphics and menus).
I wouldn't be suprised if EA releases an Euro 2012 update for Vita Fifa after being finished with the console versions.
EA has said that their Vita version for 2013 will be a port of the 2013 engine.....they just started late with their Vita launch version.
Well every analysts and their friends screams about portable gaming being dead. 3ds doing well must be put on the mario popularity freepass (for them). For now, there is just no proof that there is a market even existing for the Vita, and the bad sales won't help.
I, myself, am certain that there is one, till as long as samsung doesn't decide to kill everyone with a gaming phone.
Anyway, as confident and hopeful Vita owners are, it's pretty simple to see how the industry couldn't have any less trust in it for now. This is the kind of situation where big companies will have to support if for sony's beautiful eyes in the beginning.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
That makes sense, but shouldn't porting the PS3 version to the Vita be fairly easy?
Obviously they don't think it's worth spending money on. Pretty embarrassing that the PS2 and PSP get it but not the Vita, but it's no surprise. I love the hardware but it's tanking at retail.
Sintoid
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This could be after at least one year or maybe after a first try, a fist batch of titles like a PES 2013 could really be... we're now talking about developers and publisher that neither "Jumped in" or so it seems...
Maybe they're waiting for a proper presentation during E3 I can't believe that Sony has zero support from third parties and no dialogue with them to obtain it, it would be a suicide and onestly an orrible way to act with early adopters/Vita fanbase
E3 is going to be really hard for Sony
ScreenSplitter
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Oh no you're one of them.
We're not all beer swilling money wasting masochists y'know.
Well this tell us a lot about Vita software sales and it's not good. (also this gen of handheld is insane $39 is just too much for handheld games imo)
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Could there be some kind of an NDA going on?
Combichristoffersen
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ScreenSplitter
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I like one of those. And I could learn to like the other.
But on topic, Vita and stuff. How about that E3?
No. The Vita is selling like shit with little chance of change on the horizon. That's all there is to it.
Oi! I resemble that remark!
Why would there be an NDA on a system that's already out?
mugurumakensei
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For Vita? With common multiplatform games like PES? I doubt it. I also doubt Sony would put an NDA in place for all third parties when their system is struggling.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Sony needs to do something during E3. Even it it'll bore me out of my mind, they need to focus on the Vita during their presser. Drum up hype for upcoming titles, announce third party support and/or exclusives, announce new services etc.
Apparently not easy enough....time and cost wise. But its true...if the Vita was burning up the charts, they'd have more incentive to switch things up, priority wise. Which is why i don't agree with the title of this thread....sure it might not be increasing in a crazy way (dev support), but i don't think it is on the decline.....i think its just somewhere in the middle, just normal from where it started, at least for now. I'm sure we'll know come E3.
hmm come to think of it, has there been any Konami titles released on vita yet?
I mean going through this list: http://www.konami.com/games/browse/?gameType=Console_Games
The only titles I can see is the MGS HD collection and the Silent Hill game
I mean going through this list: http://www.konami.com/games/browse/?gameType=Console_Games
The only titles I can see is the MGS HD collection and the Silent Hill game
mugurumakensei
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In japan, there is.
A really bad omen would be their Vita montages being mostly comprised of already released games.
ScreenSplitter
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For the record, I don't consider the absence of PES a harbinger of the Vita's downfall. Once they cancel the CoD exclusive game/port then I'll be more inclined to agree with you.
If Sony isn't announcing/talking about the PS4 this E3 as they've asserted repeatedly, they should let the Vita have the bulk of the presser. Take some time out to discuss the God of War prequel (very telling that's not on Vita either), maybe that pretty lame looking LBP Racer, then dedicate the rest of it to Vita, Vita, Vita. Get some third party support involved, show us how the Vita version of SFxT is the only one that's not consumer raping us, and show off some exclusive titles.
Otherwise,
ScreenSplitter
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That would be fantastic, but I've yet to see further evidence.
Sintoid
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So konami aims to japan and collateral earnings from western localization?
That's incredible imho
Doesn't Sony discuss with publishers? Doesn't Hirai said they have a lot of TP games coming soon? Does anyone in konami trade/discuss about supporting Vita?
This is really weird
DiscoJer
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I dunno, Sony launched an EU only cheap version of the PSP less than a year ago.
But is it that unprecedented? Take Two put out their baseball game this year for the PSP but not the Vita. It likely doesn't take that much to just do a roster update (though apparently they did fix some bugs)
(While curiously, SCEA didn't put out The Show for the PSP this year, only Vita. Even though it had just been roster updates for years, kind of says a lot that they dropped support so quickly)
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
For the record, I don't consider the absence of PES a harbinger of the Vita's downfall. Once they cancel the CoD exclusive game/port then I'll be more inclined to agree with you.
If Sony isn't announcing/talking about the PS4 this E3 as they've asserted repeatedly, they should let the Vita have the bulk of the presser. Take some time out to discuss the God of War prequel (very telling that's not on Vita either), maybe that pretty lame looking LBP Racer, then dedicate the rest of it to Vita, Vita, Vita. Get some third party support involved, show us how the Vita version of SFxT is the only one that's not consumer raping us, and show off some exclusive titles.
Otherwise,
I don't think the lack of PES is the final nail in the coffin, but if it's a sign of things to come.. ouch. But yeah, they need to focus on Vita during their E3 presser.
PES is coming to PSP because it costs them absolutely nothing to push a roster update to last year's version and repackage it with a new logo. They're not going to rebuild their engine on a new architecture when it wouldn't be even a top-5 platform sales wise. For some franchises, Vita would make sense at this point, but not for PES.
PES2012 PSP, 13th best selling game in 2011 in Spain. And these games are free money (2008 version + updated roster).
No PES2013 Vita doesn't make much sense though.
Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 was announced to not be coming to Vita today. Its coming to PC, PS3, Wii, 360, 3DS, PSP and PS2 - and presumably iOS - but not Vita.
That is not a good sign in my opinion. PES is one of Konami's only relevant franchises nowadays and is an annual sports franchise that releases on every available console every year. Yet its not coming to Vita..
That is not a good sign in my opinion. PES is one of Konami's only relevant franchises nowadays and is an annual sports franchise that releases on every available console every year. Yet its not coming to Vita..
VariantX04
Loser slave of the system :(
That's inexcusable. At least EA are content with that decision.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
the hands down best game on Vita is from Konami
again - not really sure why even a quick port isn't considered worthwhile. Have to assume a lazy up-port from PSP would even surfice given how "meh" the first 3DS game is - the second is a bit better but it's still meh-ish -and- it sold extremely poorly. So i guess the work to update is minimal for a third 3DS outing but yeah... no Vita version is not a great sign.
Vita will have Konami support as long as Kojima Productions is a part of the company.
Sintoid
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I don't know if the source is affordable but
Interview to XSeed Games
He also say Sumioni coming Europe and Corpse Party sequel coming to West...
Interview to XSeed Games
He also say Sumioni coming Europe and Corpse Party sequel coming to West...
Sure, but when using these excuses/reasons, people are using language like "doesn't make sense for them" and "not worth it to Konami".
The Vita is performing so badly that it's not worth porting an annual football franchise to?
That is NOT a good sign. At all. How badly is this system tanking?
slaughterking
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kobashi100
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I can see why they haven't announced a vita version. Lots of PSP gamers have not crossed over and would they buy a Vita just for PES 2013 when they can play it on the PSP or 3DS instead?
Hope they release the Nintendo versions at the same time as others this year.
Hope they release the Nintendo versions at the same time as others this year.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
I'm sure this comes from a press release rather than from the PES 2013 site (which has nothing about what it's being released on in the 2013 side, but has the list of the platforms 2012 came out on if you click on the 2012 details) but if not....
can't see any details of platforms listed on the site yet for 2013, unless i'm being a blind old coot.
can't see any details of platforms listed on the site yet for 2013, unless i'm being a blind old coot.
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