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Is the Hulk the cheapest comic book superhero ever?

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Ghost Rider makes Hulk and just about anyone else his bitch. Fear the Reaper.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Wow, humans really have a superhero-complex if how they imagine him is as a dude in a pink and blue costume
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correction: pink and blue skirt (or is this technically a kilt?)

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Superman can inhale so much air that his lungs compress the molecules, turning them into ice, which lets him exhale arctic breath

but yeah comics take amazing leaps of logic :P
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
just blow, cold air comes out. he's superman. SUPERman. everything we do he does a million times more.
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If cold air is coming out of your mouth you should probably see a doctor.
 
El Sloth said:
He's more like a force of nature then a person. And he's not even a superhero. DISQUALIFIED
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Yeah @ Living Tribunal. If we were going for that kind of thing though TOAA would be at the top of that kind of list.

http://www.comicvine.com/one-above-all/29-44473/

"The One-Above-All is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. He is the most powerful being in the Marvel Multiverse. His powers are unlimited, incalculable and immeasurable.

The One-Above-All is also Omnipresent which means that there exists only one, and in all realities at once. "
 
Chamber said:
Abilities: The sum total of all the energies contained by the Guardians of the Universe and the Central Power Battery which granted the possessor nigh-omnipotent control over time, space and reality.

The glory days of Kyle Rayner. Fuck you, Geoff Johns.
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Becuase omnipotence makes for such good comics...
 
Kinda not (OK, really not) a superhero, but Scott Pilgrim lives in a world where his imagination seems to take priority. He molds the world as he sees it to his sensibilities, with video game sound effects, enemies exploding into coins when defeated, pulling flaming swords out of his chest when he makes an important realisation, and can fight with the strength and ability of your average fighting game character, despite being a scrawny 20-something year old bassist from Toronto.

It's not so much his eccentric retelling of how he claimed his forbidden lover, than how his imagination overrules reality on how events around him unfold. Which is a pretty crazy superpower, IMO.
 
MrHicks said:
what about the living tribunal???

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from WIKI

"The Living Tribunal possesses virtually unlimited power and near-absolute control over the Marvel Omniverse."
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The dude's essentially space god of the Marvel U.
Varjet said:
Well, if you wanna go there, the answer would be the One-Above-All.
Marvel Wiki

lol
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This is God. Essentially the writers at Marvel.

Like others said, not really count considering their role in the Universe as being essentially God.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
is this real? seriously? so you've never try to eat something hot and just blown on it to cool it down a bit?
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Maybe the the temp of your breath is lower than whatever it is you are blowing on, but it can hardly be characterized as "cool"
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
is this real? seriously? so you've never try to eat something hot and just blown on it to cool it down a bit?
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Unless the room temperature is above 37 degrees Celcius, your body heats air when you have inhaled it. Air which you exhale would be warmer than the air in the external environment.

The reason that blow air from your lips has a cooling effect is because it creates a convection current, and removes warm air that was already around objects (e.g. hot food, your skin). This makes way for cooler air, which absorbs heat from the object in question.
 
Tntnnbltn said:
No it doesn't.
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yes, it does.

Unless the room temperature is above 37 degrees Celcius, your body heats air when you have inhaled it. Air which you exhale would be warmer than the air in the external environment.

The reason that blow air from your lips has a cooling effect is because it creates a convection current, and removes warm air that was already around objects (e.g. hot food, your skin). This makes way for cooler air, which absorbs heat from the object in question.
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so in other words... it cools it down. which is the same as artic breath when supermna blows on something and freezes it.
 
X-Frame said:
How would Iceman (at full potential) fare against Supes or Hulk?
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Against Supes? Maybe. If Iceman can throw up an icy haze to provide cover blot and out the sun and wear Supes down at the same time the he has a chance. Pretty slim though, considering how overpowered the man of Steel is.
 
Wiseblade said:
Against Supes? Maybe. If Iceman can throw up an icy haze to provide cover blot and out the sun and wear Supes down at the same time the he has a chance. Pretty slim though, considering how overpowered the man of Steel is.
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Why do that when he can lower Supe's temp to absolute zero?
 
Slayven said:
Why do that when he can lower Supe's temp to absolute zero?
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I can only imagine that something like that would take time and focus, which would make Iceman a pretty easy target for someone who can move faster than a locomotive, move planets and shoot laser beams out of his eyes. Being as elusive a target as possible is likely Iceman's best hope of not being killed by the first punch.

How about:

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vs

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Assuming that:
  • Aang is a fully realised avatar, with mastery of all the bending disciplines.
  • Storm is similarly at her peak.
  • Their battleground is a wide open space with a natural sorce of water and available of rock formations. Think of the battleground for Aang vs Fire Lord Ozai.
  • Storm's powers are not derived from any form of bending and as such she is immune to energybending.
  • Aang is unable to acheive the avatar state, even involuntarily.
  • Both are willing to use lethal force if necessary.
 
The_Technomancer said:
I still want to know why Galactus needs a spaceship!
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He doesn't need a spaceship.

And Iceman can totally beat Superman. Just remove the moisture from his body.

Iceman is like Flash in that he has powers that can beat basically everyone.

Wiseblade said:
I can only imagine that something like that would take time and focus, which would make Iceman a pretty easy target for someone who can move faster than a locomotive, move planets and shoot laser beams out of his eyes. Being as elusive a target as possible is likely Iceman's best hope of not being killed by the first punch.
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Listen brah, there's no way for Superman to feasibly defeat Iceman. He can punch him or melt him or do whatever and Bobby will simply reform as good as new.
 
I didn't see these listed anywhere (if I missed them I apologize), but I thought this was interesting.

Official Power Grid Ratings (7 being the maximum)

Hulk
Intelligence
6
Strength
7
Speed
3
Durability
7
Energy Projection
1
Fighting Skills
4


Spider-Man
Intelligence
4
Strength
4
Speed
3
Durability
3
Energy Projection
1
Fighting Skills
4


Wolverine
Intelligence
2
Strength
4
Speed
2
Durability
4
Energy Projection
1
Fighting Skills
7

Phoenix Force (Jean Grey incarnation)
Intelligence
3
Strength
2
Speed
7
Durability
7
Energy Projection
7
Fighting Skills
4


Galactus
Intelligence
7
Strength
7
Speed
7
Durability
7
Energy Projection
7
Fighting Skills
2

Nova
Intelligence
6
Strength
7
Speed
7
Durability
7
Energy Projection
6
Fighting Skills
4

*these are all based on the Marvel Comics Database Official Ratings and the Earth-616 Universe version of the characters at their strongest.*


Who knows what these ratings are actually worth, but it's interesting to see how Marvel rates their characters in terms of power. However, someone will always be more powerful than someone else for the sake of story. Superhero abilities and power level fluctuate to progress whatever story the writer wants to tell.
 
Chamber said:
He doesn't need a spaceship.

And Iceman can totally beat Superman. Just remove the moisture from his body.

Iceman is like Flash in that he has powers that can beat basically everyone.


Listen brah, there's no way for Superman to feasibly defeat Iceman. He can punch him or melt him or do whatever and Bobby will simply reform as good as new.
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What about tossing him into the sun?
 
Chamber said:
Those Marvel ratings aren't worth shit.
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Probably not, but like I said, it's interesting to see what the "official" ratings are. Power levels never stay the same, I mean Beast has evolved at least 3 times, getting stronger each time and he's not the only character to go through some change like that.
 
Chamber said:
He'll reform back on Earth. Iceman's body is completely unimportant.
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Not really. The molecules that make up his actual body are pretty important to him. He wouldn't be able to simply shrug off being thrown into the sun. Not to mention reforming his body actually requires effort and will tire him if used repeatedly.
 
Wiseblade said:
Not really. The molecules that make up his actual body are pretty important to him. He wouldn't be able to simply shrug off being thrown into the sun. Not to mention reforming his body actually requires effort and will tire him if used repeatedly.
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He can transfer his consciousness to any body of water present. Even the water molecules in the air.

Of course he's not always written this way just like Superman isn't always written as a guy who can move planets but he can do those things. Iceman at the peak of his power would be only be beaten by a telepath.
 
Chamber said:
He doesn't need a spaceship.

And Iceman can totally beat Superman. Just remove the moisture from his body.

Iceman is like Flash in that he has powers that can beat basically everyone.


Listen brah, there's no way for Superman to feasibly defeat Iceman. He can punch him or melt him or do whatever and Bobby will simply reform as good as new.
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See, iceman has the potential to be an omega. At the moment he is merely an alpha. While he does have the ability to control molecule movement, he doesn't know how to yet. He can keep restructuring himself after being shattered, but he can't take supes. Not yet anyway.
 
There are plenty of mages in the Marvel universe are there? Why try to fight Hulk with brute force? Why not just cast a spell that calms him down?

It occurs to me that Voldemort would only have to hit Hulk once with his death spell to beat him.
 
Chamber said:
He can transfer his consciousness to any body of water present. Even the water molecules in the air.

Of course he's not always written this way just like Superman isn't always written as a guy who can move planets but he can do those things. Iceman at the peak of his power would be only be beaten by a telepath.
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no, no. Superman as we currently know him (for two more months anyway, LOL) CAN WITH LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of effort can move an earth size planet. the last time he did that in current continuity was when Jeph Loeb was writing him and he went back in time to Krypton and helped move the planet with the help of some giant engines or something (I think he was losing power due to being close to Krypton's red sun)
 
Fetts_Jets said:
Isn't Iceman considered to be an Alpha Level mutant now?

I swear, Marvel Superheroes are like Pokemon sometimes.
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The opposite is actually true- very few Pokemon have ridiculous powers (Dialga, Palkia, Arceus to name the top three with truly godlike powers) but the rest are just either normal Pokemon or noticably strong ones. Meanwhile, a buttload of Marvel characters can warp reality, live forever and other dumb shit
 
Parallax said:
See, iceman has the potential to be an omega. At the moment he is merely an alpha. While he does have the ability to control molecule movement, he doesn't know how to yet. He can keep restructuring himself after being shattered, but he can't take supes. Not yet anyway.
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I haven't X-Men since Whedon's Astonishing run ended. I don't know what's going on with Iceman now but he was able to do high level stuff with little effort.

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Chamber said:
I haven't X-Men since Whedon's Astonishing run ended. I don't know what's going on with Iceman now but he was able to do high level stuff with little effort.

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That's emma frost controlling him. That's how we know he's omega potential. Bobby drake however is an alpha at the moment
 
That's not Emma controlling him. That's AFTER Emma showed him the real potential of his power.

And Bobby is an Omega level mutant. Period. It's not something that downgrades.
 
Fetts_Jets said:
Dear god, from what? I thought he had to have his skeleton intact to grow back from... I'm so not up to date :(
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lol...in the 80ties a sentinel burned all the flesh off his bones..and he regenerated. ..and that was the 80ties...you dotn even wanna know how good his healing factor is now.
 
Transfers his consciousness to any body of water....for the love of...

...LOL, that's some grade A bullshit powers and we're in a thread that talks about Hulk being cheap!
 
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