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bangai-o said:
did Batman figure out it was a dream when he tried to read the newspaper?
lols. He figured it out because he could sense the heartbeat from his physical body was responding differently to the scenarios the machine was putting him through.

Pretty goofy story.

I should mention this happened when Superman was an energy being. So he was all over the place at this time.
 
Green Scar said:
Yeah, but it's nothing compared to that bloody Superman Prime strip posted earlier

heck, most other superheroes would be far more devastating than Bats with the ring. Even Plastic Man

Batman without superpowers can already solo any hero out there with prep time. Now you give him the ring on top of that? Total slaughter. Even Squirrel Girl wouldn't stand a chance.
 
ReiGun said:
It was a one shot Elseworlds story where Batman becomes the Green Lantern instead of Hal Jordan.

In canon, Batman did almost become the Yellow Lantern of sector 2814.

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edit: totally beaten. :P
evil would have been totally fucked.
 
I would have loved for him to accept the ring and take over the Sinestro Corps. Batman Corps, like Batman Inc but IN SPACE!
 
Puddles said:
Batman without superpowers can already solo any hero out there with prep time. Now you give him the ring on top of that? Total slaughter. Even Squirrel Girl wouldn't stand a chance.

True but I dunno, I'm trying to be realistic here :P I don't know why, but in this thread I find it hard to maintain my usual 'Batman > all' position.
 
Green Scar said:
True but I dunno, I'm trying to be realistic here :P I don't know why, but in this thread I find it hard to maintain my usual 'Batman > all' position.
Because he's a human that can only do so much. How can someone bound my the laws of the world take on others who ignore and even bend the rules to their liking? Prep-time?

Bullshit. Realistically, no hero is going to act like Magneto, standing still, and leaving themselves open. How can Batman take out the Flash if the Flash finishes Batman off before he can even react?
 
PounchEnvy said:
Because he's a human that can only do so much. How can someone bound my the laws of the world take on others who ignore and even bend the rules to their liking? Prep-time?

Bullshit. Realistically, no hero is going to act like Magneto, standing still, and leaving themselves open. How can Batman take out the Flash if the Flash finishes Batman off before he can even react?
Batman already reacted before the battle begun.
 
DryEyeRelief said:
I'm not familiar with green lantern at all, but I thought the yellow ring was for evil people.
It is but there's also this whole color/emotion spectrum.

Red = Rage -> Orange = Avarice -> Yellow = Fear -> Green = Willpower <- Blue = Hope <- Indigo = Compassion <- Violet = Love

Each color represents a certain emotion, with green being the center and neutral color. Hypothetically Batman would be a perfect user of the Yellow power.
 
PounchEnvy said:
Because he's a human that can only do so much. How can someone bound my the laws of the world take on others who ignore and even bend the rules to their liking? Prep-time?

Bullshit. Realistically, no hero is going to act like Magneto, standing still, and leaving themselves open. How can Batman take out the Flash if the Flash finishes Batman off before he can even react?

Exactly. It's fun pretending Batman could take out the combined DC and Marvel character bases, but he is just a man, and that's so fucking obvious when reading this thread and seeing the upper limits of everyone's powers.
 
bangai-o said:
Batman already reacted before the battle begun.

Fucking this.

Batman w/ prep time vs Flash is already ridiculously stacked in Batman's favor. With the ring, it's a complete slaughter.

Green Scar said:
Exactly. It's fun pretending Batman could take out the combined DC and Marvel character bases, but he is just a man, and that's so fucking obvious when reading this thread and seeing the upper limits of everyone's powers.

I really like that about Batman though. It's all about research and careful strategy. Reading a Batman comic is like reading a good mystery. Reading about Thor/Sentry/Galactus etc is like watching DBZ.
 
Green Scar said:
Exactly. It's fun pretending Batman could take out the combined DC and Marvel character bases, but he is just a man, and that's so fucking obvious when reading this thread and seeing the upper limits of everyone's powers.
That's why he should take over Sinestro Corps. :P

Puddles said:
Fucking this.

Batman w/ prep time vs Flash is already ridiculously stacked in Batman's favor. With the ring, it's a complete slaughter.
Oh god you're serious. What the hell is he reacted to if he hasn't even made an action?
 
DryEyeRelief said:
I'm not familiar with green lantern at all, but I thought the yellow ring was for evil people.
They're for people who can instill great fear, which, of course, is Batman's whole schtick. Though typically, yellow lanterns are bad guys.
 
DryEyeRelief said:
I'm not familiar with green lantern at all, but I thought the yellow ring was for evil people.
oh, I thought all the rings were good.

PounchEnvy said:
It is but there's also this whole color/emotion spectrum.

Red = Rage -> Orange = Avarice -> Yellow = Fear -> Green = Willpower <- Blue = Hope <- Indigo = Compassion <- Violet = Love

Each color represents a certain emotion, with green being the center and neutral color. Hypothetically Batman would be a perfect user of the Yellow power.
oh wow. interesting.
 
ReiGun said:
They're for people who can instill great fear, which, of course, is Batman's whole schtick. Though typically, yellow lanterns are bad guys.
Also I do believe they make you more aggressive.
 
I really like the Rainbow Corps thing. Especially the way they handled Orange/Avarice. Red was kind of stupid and ill designed though.
 
MisterHero said:
Prep time and "Always being prepared" is the epitome of Batman yet Superman is called the Boy Scout. *shrugs*

Well, boy scouts are always prepared to like, carve soap box derby cars and exclude people from their short pants club. Batman is always prepared to kick ass and take names.
 
WanderingWind said:
I really like the Rainbow Corps thing. Especially the way they handled Orange/Avarice. Red was kind of stupid and ill designed though.


what? red is the best after orange (larfleeze) people walk around with a lot of anger and sometimes it gushes out.
 
PounchEnvy said:
Oh god you're serious. What the hell is he reacted to if he hasn't even made an action?

Batman isn't going to engage The Flash in combat until he's good and ready.

Sure, we can hypothesize about a scenario where someone took control of The Flash with mind control or whatever and sent him to kill an unprepared Batman, but that would never happen. Batman would be ready for that too.

You can cite the panels where Batman loses to Wonder Woman, but it's pretty clear that battle was PIS.

Disclaimer: Sure, if the writers put Batman and The Flash/Superman/etc in a steel cage with neither one being prepared, obviously Batman would lose. But that would never happen.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
what? red is the best after orange (larfleeze) people walk around with a lot of anger and sometimes it gushes out.
Sorry Hope is the best. It's got the Rayner seal of approval.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
what? red is the best after orange (larfleeze) people walk around with a lot of anger and sometimes it gushes out.

I only read the blackest night stuff, but what, red replaced the user's blood with plasma that they barfed out? Pretty shitty end of the stick when others got to, you know, not throw up their powers.
 
WanderingWind said:
Well, boy scouts are always prepared to like, carve soap box derby cars and exclude people from their short pants club. Batman is always prepared to kick ass and take names.
But Batman built a derby car, it just has tons of weapons on it

Though that explains why Bruce's new suit didn't have outside underwear.
 
WanderingWind said:
I only read the blackest night stuff, but what, red replaced the user's blood with plasma that they barfed out? Pretty shitty end of the stick when others got to, you know, not throw up their powers.
Green and Blue are the only ones that don't screw you over honestly. I even used to like the Indigo Tribe until I found out they can only feel compassion and nothing else.
 
goober said:
Is prep time explicitly mentioned in the comics?

No but Morrison abused it for his batgod stuff in jla. Batman invented a machine to hide his heartbeat from superman in one throwaway scene.
 
PounchEnvy said:
Green and Blue are the only ones that don't screw you over honestly. I even used to like the Indigo Tribe until I found out they can only feel compassion and nothing else.

Wait, what? Really? A bunch of hotties who can only pity fuck you? Comic writers projecting much?
 
The Sentry has the power of a million stars, Thor can throw his hammer hard enough to exceed the speed of light, and you guys bitch about prep-time? SMH.

Prep time >>>>> breaking the laws of thermodynamics and relativity.
 
At the end of Sinestro Corps. War, I would have bet money that the answer to a question like this would be Sodam Yat in a few years. Superman with the power of Ion + time to train = some for real bullshit power levels. But I guess that's done and gone now.

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WanderingWind said:
Wait, what? Really? A bunch of hotties who can only pity fuck you? Comic writers projecting much?


well, they can also have the "compassion" to kill you if they feel you are pathetic instead of deserving of a pity fuck. a least that's what John Stewart did recently.
 
Breaking the laws of physics is standard for comics though, it's the norm. Every other superhero can do it.

Batman is a human. 'Prep time' is bordering on a superpower. Batman has no superpowers.
 
Puddles said:
The Sentry has the power of a million stars, Thor can throw his hammer hard enough to exceed the speed of light, and you guys bitch about prep-time? SMH.

Prep time >>>>> breaking the laws of thermodynamics and relativity.
See it's less of a problem since these guys aren't JUST humans.
 
Narag said:
No but Morrison abused it for his batgod stuff in jla. Batman invented a machine to hide his heartbeat from superman in one throwaway scene.

Batman is just that God-tier.

A simple act of getting food poisoning and explosive diarrhea all night would be all a ploy that somehows leads to a major event 10 years in the future where he stops the entire Justice League from being mind controlled and destroying half the world.
 
Green Scar said:
Breaking the laws of physics is standard for comics though, it's the norm. Every other superhero can do it.

Batman is a human. 'Prep time' is bordering on a superpower. Batman has no superpowers.

Makes for a better story when the human defeats them all.

Strategy is the best superpower. :)

HomerSimpson-Man said:
Batman is just that God-tier.

A simple act of getting food poisoning and explosive diarrhea all night would be all a ploy that somehows leads to a major event 10 years in the future where he stops the entire Justice League from being mind controlled and destroying half the world.

This man gets it.
 
My only problem with prep time (at least the way most people I talk to about it present it) is that Batman's plans are basically perfect. Like there is apparently no chance whatsoever he could fail. It also seems to assume that his opponents in these imaginary fights are idiots and wouldn't even think to have a plan to fight against him.

Also, the anti-Wonder Woman plan in Tower of Babel is stupid. "She's tire herself out fighting an opponent she can't beat!" Bah!
 
ReiGun said:
My only problem with prep time (at least the way most people I talk to about it present it) is that Batman's plans are basically perfect. Like there is apparently no chance whatsoever he could fail. It also seems to assume that his opponents in these imaginary fights are idiots and wouldn't even think to have a plan to fight against him.

Also, I really hate the anti-Wonder Woman plan in Tower of Babel
What was it?
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Batman is just that God-tier.

A simple act of getting food poisoning and explosive diarrhea all night would be all a ploy that somehows leads to a major event 10 years in the future where he stops the entire Justice League from being mind controlled and destroying half the world.

Now you've got me reading tvtropes' batman gambit page to refresh my memory.
 
PounchEnvy said:
What was it?
The infect her with something that makes her fight an imaginary enemy that is her equal in every way and thus can't be beaten. Batman's figuring in creating this plan that Wondy's pride would lead her to fight this imaginary friend forever. Just rubs me the wrong way.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
well, they can also have the "compassion" to kill you if they feel you are pathetic instead of deserving of a pity fuck. a least that's what John Stewart did recently.

John Stewart is purple now? Please tell me he's still making guns and shit out of purple energy.
 
ReiGun said:
My only problem with prep time (at least the way most people I talk to about it present it) is that Batman's plans are basically perfect. Like there is apparently no chance whatsoever he could fail. It also seems to assume that his opponents in these imaginary fights are idiots and wouldn't even think to have a plan to fight against him.

Also, the anti-Wonder Woman plan in Tower of Babel is stupid. "She's tire herself out fighting an opponent she can't beat!" Bah!
I thought the anti-Green Lantern plan was worse. Make him blind? Really? Really?!

Pickles the Firecat said:
At the end of Sinestro Corps. War, I would have bet money that the answer to a question like this would be Sodam Yat in a few years. Superman with the power of Ion + time to train = some for real bullshit power levels. But I guess that's done and gone now.

218379-195501-ion_super.jpg
This guy was such a disappointment power wise. Kyle was far more impressive with the Ion whale than Yat was.
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
A simple act of getting food poisoning and explosive diarrhea all night would be all a ploy that somehows leads to a major event 10 years in the future where he stops the entire Justice League from being mind controlled and destroying half the world.

So now he's the Aizen of western comics?
 
Chamber said:
I thought the anti-Green Lantern plan was worse. Make him blind? Really? Really?!
The resolution to that one was hilarious though.

"If your ring is causing you to be blind, why don't you just imagine yourself not blind?" I laughed so hard.
 
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