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[DeathbyVolcano]

I don't see how MP3's story is any mroe of a focus than Echoes'.

 

[Jokeropia]

We always knew metroid would be the death of ya.

Better Anihawk than Samus.

 

[Sagitario]

I dunno, I think Anihawk is kinda full of it here. Videogames have always been about the journey, not about the destination, and that's no different now just because we know (gasp) that Samus will survive it.

In fact, I'd say that's especially true in the Metroid Prime games.

It's just such a stupid thing to latch on to. If anything, it'll be the game's scenario and difficulty that'll set the mood, ambiance, and make what's going on relevant and interesting... not really how it all wraps up! :lol

It's like he's looking for a reason to slap MP3C down before it even hits. Which wouldn't really surprise me.

Just my PoV.

I fully agree with you...

 

[AniHawk]

I dunno, I think Anihawk is kinda full of it here. Videogames have always been about the journey, not about the destination, and that's no different now just because we know (gasp) that Samus will survive it.

In fact, I'd say that's especially true in the Metroid Prime games.

It's just such a stupid thing to latch on to. If anything, it'll be the game's scenario and difficulty that'll set the mood, ambiance, and make what's going on relevant and interesting... not really how it all wraps up! :lol

It's like he's looking for a reason to slap MP3C down before it even hits. Which wouldn't really surprise me.

Just my PoV.

It sorta just struck me. It was just one little thing. I made a couple suggestions and it gets dragged out over 200 posts because no one understands the point I'm getting at.

If you are a game company. And if you are going to ramp up the story and make it a big or bigger focus than your past efforts, make sure you know what you're doing. That's it in a nutshell. Retro's trying to give it a shot and it doesn't work.

I'm not harping on the story because I think it sucks. I'm harping on the story because Retro's putting a bigger emphasis on it. You didn't see me giving a shit about what went on in Jak and Daxter or Super Metroid. Jak II was such a colossal waste of time and effort because the story was a much bigger focus and it ruined the entire series. Metroid Fusion had a bigger emphasis on the story, and it was a better game because the outcome was unknown. There is no, "oooh what happens next" or connection to the Samus character this time because you know: Dark Samus is gonna die, Samus will get rid of the corrupted suit, and the four bounty hunters? I'm guessing they all become boss fights. The gameplay may turn out to be awesome, but as far as the story goes, and as far as what's being placed emphasis on, we already know the outcome, and that sucks the life right out of it.

 

[ksamedi]

It sorta just struck me. It was just one little thing. I made a couple suggestions and it gets dragged out over 200 posts because no one understands the point I'm getting at.

Yeah, you want the series to feel fresh and exciting again, but its called MP3 for a reason, i dont think anything will be that much different except the controls and new elements on top of the already existing gameplay. If you didnt like the first, you probably wont like this one too, its as simple as that. The right thing to do would be to cancel your preorder and dont bother, but thats just me.

 

[Mejilan]

There is no, "oooh what happens next" or connection to the Samus character this time because you know: Dark Samus is gonna die, Samus will get rid of the corrupted suit, and the four bounty hunters? I'm guessing they all become boss fights. The gameplay may turn out to be awesome, but as far as the story goes, and as far as what's being placed emphasis on, we already know the outcome, and that sucks the life right out of it.

'Cept for lamenting that we still don't have a Metroid 5, I can't really agree. Just because I knew that Ganondorf was going to be the last boss in TP (obviously after dungeon 4), didn't mean I didn't enjoy the rest of the amazing journey there. And for that matter, even once I got to the expected final encounter, it was handled with a couple of fresh twists that made it all worthwhile.

I guess I'm saying that I feel that right now, you're griping about nothing, and beyond that making all kinds of assumptions, mostly baseless.

 

[AniHawk]

'Cept for lamenting that we still don't have a Metroid 5, I can't really agree. Just because I knew that Ganondorf was going to be the last boss in TP (obviously after dungeon 4), didn't mean I didn't enjoy the rest of the amazing journey there. And for that matter, even once I got to the expected final encounter, it was handled with a couple of fresh twists that made it all worthwhile.

3D Zelda is sort of a different beast than 3D Metroid. The people in charge of Zelda, Aonuma and company, know how to tell a story. If it was placed between, say, OoT and TWW, it would have been exciting and interesting.

 

[Tathanen]

I really don't think the outcome of the story is what matters here, it's how that outcome is handled, and the revelations that come along the way.

Yes, we know Dark Samus will be the boss... or do we? We still have no idea what Phazon IS, nor its origins, which I think is the main plot point that still needs resolution. Hell, we don't even know what Metroid Prime truly is. Was it just a phazon-affected Metroid? Was it an x-parasite? These are the exciting points for me. Yes, Samus will live, yes, Dark Samus will die, but apparent attention to plot means we may get actual satisfying answers for the previous questions. Maybe you'll even visit Zebes, or at least get some kind of plot-mention of them re-establishing Tourian on the planet.

As the final game in a trilogy, and a prequel to Super Metroid, there are many plot points that need satisfying conclusions, so I think the emphasis on plot (or at least as far as you can reasonably go in a Metroid game) is definitely beneficial.

 

[Mejilan]

3D Zelda is sort of a different beast than 3D Metroid. The people in charge of Zelda, Aonuma and company, know how to tell a story. If it was placed between, say, OoT and TWW, it would have been exciting and interesting.

I think Retro's done a pretty stellar job so far. I'm not buying all this "Halo-izing" bullshit regarding MP3C, so I'll hold off judgment until I've played it for myself and finished it. That said, Retro set out to both expand the narrative and mythology of the Metroid universe, but also stay close to the kind of silent, claustrophobic, isolated atmosphere we're all used to. I thought they succeeded admirably on both counts, with both games, and I don't expect the formula to change too much in this final Prime entry.

We still have no idea what Phazon IS, nor its origins, which I think is the main plot point that still needs resolution.

Radioactive element from deep-space. But agreed, I don't think the origins of Phazon are important.

Hell, we don't even know what Metroid Prime truly is.

Yes we do. It was explained in a log in MP1.

Was it just a phazon-affected Metroid?

Close, but not quite. It was a heavily Phazon-exposed Metroid-like organism. It apparently has evolutionary links to Metroids, but wasn't an actual Metroid.

Was it an x-parasite?

No.

Maybe you'll even visit Zebes, or at least get some kind of plot-mention of them re-establishing Tourian on the planet.

What with the whole planet-hopping mechanic they've brought into this game, I've been kind of holding out that SR-388 or Zebes might turn up!

As the final game in a trilogy, and a prequel to Super Metroid

I'm pretty sure it leads up to Metroid 2, not Super Metroid. But my recollection is admittedly fuzzy.

 

[Saoh]

guys, don't play any other game in a series because it's highly likely that the outcome will always be the same. the hero survives and the evil guy dies.

instead, go and play FF7 where there's a huge plot twist.

I'm pretty sure it leads up to Metroid 2, not Super Metroid. But my recollection is admittedly fuzzy.

MP3C leads to Metroid 2, which leads to Super Metroid. Thank you Metroid Retrospective .

 

[EBCubs03]

guys, don't play any other game in a series because it's highly likely that the outcome will always be the same. the hero survives and the evil guy dies.

instead, go and play FF7 where there's a huge plot twist.

Samus dies and dark samus assumes her identity because she feels sorry for samus

 

[Saoh]

Samus dies and dark samus assumes her identity because she feels sorry for samus

O_O Retro am gods!

Spoiler

jk

 

[Tathanen]

No.

Yes, I'm aware of all the logs. Without really knowing the origins of Phazon (which I think IS important, as its the catalyst for most things in the Prime trilogy, and seems to be spreading somehow [though I suspect your "don't" was a typo, looking at the context of your sentence]), we can't entirely say what Metroid Prime's all about. All I know is that it sure as hell doesn't look like any Metroid I'VE ever seen. Hell, its characteristics mimic an X-parasite to a tee, in particular its ability to absorb weaponry into its self. The main reason I bring it up, though, is that it looks IDENTICAL to a core-X when it steals the Phazon suit at the end of Prime 1--which, again, is an X-parasite trait.

My running theory is that it's some kind of X/Metroid amalgamation. Perhaps an x-parasite that, via phazon use, managed to actually kill and possess a Metroid. I'm basing that entirely on the clear core-X appearance in that scene and the fact that its abilities are much more in-line with an X parasite than with a Metroid. I expect Nintendo to just run with the phazon-metroid idea regardless, though.

 

[Xeke]

As much as I want MP3...I want a side scrolling Metroid game that actually centers around Metroids. Like Metroid I, II and Super.

 

[TheGreatDave]

Sort of off topic, but does anybody know anywhere I can pre order Prime 3 online that ships to the UK? Tronixweb is sold out and I'm looking for somewhere with similar speed. VGP and NCSX are both pretty slow...

 

[Phife Dawg]

Sort of off topic, but does anybody know anywhere I can pre order Prime 3 online that ships to the UK? Tronixweb is sold out and I'm looking for somewhere with similar speed. VGP and NCSX are both pretty slow...

Been a while since I last ordered from them but dvdboxoffice were reasonably fast back in the days.

 

[Chris FOM]

Just to toss out about knowing the ending. You all realize the biggest box office hit of all time was about a boat that everyone knew would sink at the end right? Sometimes it's not the destination but the way you get there. Besides, was there ever any doubt that Samus would rid herself of the corruption when this is clearly being labeled the end of a trilogy? That alone tells you everything you need to know about how the story will end.

 

[demure]

You all realize the biggest box office hit of all time was about a boat that everyone knew would sink at the end right? Sometimes it's not the destination but the way you get there.

Well said.

 

[AzureNightmare]

Yeah, you want the series to feel fresh and exciting again, but its called MP3 for a reason, i dont think anything will be that much different except the controls and new elements on top of the already existing gameplay.

For Anihawk, the series was never fresh or exciting.