Voost Kain
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Literally says $14.99, you can't get xcloud without paying $14.99, stop the semantics.
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Is Xcloud and PSnow already in trouble after Stadia revealed to be the cheapest Streaming service? (And lagging behind with 5G?)
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Voost Kain just Voost Kain'd himself
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Tripolygon
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sol_bad
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Interview with Phil Spencer saying they haven't announced a business model yet.
Voost Kain, "IT'S $14.99!!!!!".
Voost Kain
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Microsoft: Phil Spencer literally standing in front of E3 screen saying you can get Xcloud for $14.99
Sol: semantics LOL roflcoptter speghetti.
Let's actual look at the facts here, you need to pay $14.99 for Xcloud, and until something else is said that's the only verified way to get it. No dispute possible.
Voost Kain
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Where is Xcloud mate?
This post doesn't work.
1. The post is a very specific part out of context.
2. The other user who liked your post, sol is insane, and he already posted a link with PHILS SPENCER SAYING XCLOUD IS BUNDLED WITH GOLD ULTIMATE ABOVE.
It is not a dispute that ultimate gold includes Xcloud, this is an established fact and there's already a link posted about it. Thank you.
Tripolygon
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Voost Kain
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There is already a link above of Phil bundling Xcloud with gold, this is no longer something to debate. You need to pay $14.99 to get Xcloud. At least for now. But feel free to give us an update if they announce some other prices later, but the revealed way to get Xcloud now is paying $14.99.
Tripolygon
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Didn't you just say he said it on the E3 stage?
The link that was posted which was an interview outside the E3 stage just says this.
This is not a confirmation of price but multiple ideas of how xCloud could fit into already existing Microsoft services. That's not to say if xcloud is included in gamepass, the price won't increase.
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Ol'Scratch
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Streaming sucks for most of the types of games I play. Fighting games, multi player shooters, battle royale games all require less lag not more. Even the Apex Legends crew is on record saying that it is not suited for streaming.
Apex Legends isn't 'well suited' for streaming services like Stadia, Respawn producer says
Drew McCoy said the studio works hard to eliminate input lag, and streaming pours it right back in.www.pcgamer.com
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Grand Theft Scratchy
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No one is in trouble after the Google Stadia announcement except for Google.
Night.Ninja
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sol_bad
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Voost, honest question in all seriousness. Is English your second language?
alabtrosMyster
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The part of it that I though made sense - absent or very low friction for adoption doesn't exist, I don't really see it anymore (I wasn't for it, but I could rationalise it) - How many times will you pay for the hardware over the time you end up using a service? What is the rationale behind having a base price every month? I already have Google drive, so it can't be to provide game saves storage... Well actually I know it - since you don't have the hardware and you pay for the game, you can play it years after you "bought" it, let's say you "bought" Mario Kart on a similar service back in 1992... there would be no incentive for the service provider to keep streaming it to you after all this time.
I still don't like it, it makes no sense for the client.
Oddvintagechap
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Stadia 9.99$ monthly plan is optional. Maybe it’s required to play “online”. It’s essentially Playstation Plus.
I’m Stadia can pay for a game once and never pay again to stream it. It’s forever in your library. Unlike Sony’s and Microsoft’s Netflix of games approach.
Gamepass idea is trash. And everyone who loves it right now is the actual problem. Basically turning games into cable tv. Slowly publisher by publisher is gonna have their own gamepass.
All this Stadia hate is pointless. If I was google I’ll just buy roblox and call it a day.
I’m Stadia can pay for a game once and never pay again to stream it. It’s forever in your library. Unlike Sony’s and Microsoft’s Netflix of games approach.
Gamepass idea is trash. And everyone who loves it right now is the actual problem. Basically turning games into cable tv. Slowly publisher by publisher is gonna have their own gamepass.
All this Stadia hate is pointless. If I was google I’ll just buy roblox and call it a day.
whitereport
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Bro, stfu.
sol_bad
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Forever?
What happens if Google decide that Stadia isnt making enough money and they shut the streaming servers down?
Kagey K
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ethomaz
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Klayzer
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Dude, that is fuckin hilarious and appropriate for this thread.
Klayzer
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My intrest goes even more into the minus territory everytime I see one of his shill threads.
bukowski81
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Comparing the price of stadia with psnow or xcloud is just wrong. To have psnow or xcloud you need a 400 dlls box, maybe 500 or more at launch for next gen systems. Lets suppose it's 400, that is equal to 3.7 years worth of stadia subscription. Apart from that, you dont have to pay every month, you can stop paying and renew the suscription when a game that interests you comes out. If it works how it is suppose to work (a big if I know), Stadia is actually a great deal.
leo-j
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PS NOW is currently available on the ps4, a 299 box, and any PC (right), with rumors of it launching on IOS with dualshock 4 support coming this Fall for ios devices. To play on ps now all you need is a 5mbps or more connection to stream any of the 750+ ps2, ps3, or ps4 games at 720p. If you have a ps4 you can download any ps2 and ps4 game on the service as well.
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bukowski81
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Its still a 299 box that is several years old that you will need to upgrade soon if you want to keep playing the newest games.
I actually didnt know about its availability on PC, but if PS Now starts having all the new release same day as physical, paying only the subscription, then yes, it is a much better deal than stadia, but i doubt that will happen soon.
Sakura
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You literally have no basis for saying this. You have no idea how many free games will be provided with the subscription, or what the quality of said games will be.
At the moment, all we know is Destiny 2. Sure, maybe there will be a few more. But in what world is 9.99 a month for a handful of games a better value than PSNow? The whole point of Stadia is you have to buy individual games, and you subscribe for some perks.
sol_bad
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Even if new games aren't released same day it's still better value.
750 games available for stream compared to ....... 1.
comshoplesce
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Stadia is going to be such a FAIL.
Barakov
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It's been said before but anything Phil Harrison is involved seems to always head for a disaster.
bukowski81
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Yea no, I understand the appeal of some of playing ps2 or ps3 games, but most people dont care.
The fact is that if someone doesnt have a console and wants to play the new CoD or the new FIFA or whatever, its 70 dollars on stadia or 60 plus whatever the console costs on Playstation.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
The secret Voost Kain trick every accountant hates him for:
- Round 9.99 to 9
- Compare flat rate service to non-flat rate service
- Completely leave out cost for individual games
- Babble something about user end connection technology that is independent of compared products
It only takes these four easy steps to make Stevia look like an attractively priced product!
- Round 9.99 to 9
- Compare flat rate service to non-flat rate service
- Completely leave out cost for individual games
- Babble something about user end connection technology that is independent of compared products
It only takes these four easy steps to make Stevia look like an attractively priced product!
sol_bad
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Stevia? So the games are going to taste sweet???
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Not a fan of Gamepass, because I like to own my games, but Gamepass clearly is the much better offer than Stevia:
- Cheaper
- All of Microsoft's games included day one
- A broad selection of recent games included
- You can download instead of having to stream, which leads to much less input lag, less dependency on the internet connection, much more stable performance
- The big negative is, that games can be removed from the service or the service can be discontinued. Both can happen on Stevia as well though.
Mistershine.
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Initially, but it'll leave a shitty aftertaste in your mouth.
So 9,99 a month to play destiny 2 or 14.99 to play nearly 250 games, including day 1 AAA and AA games? Is that even a choice?
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redfirm
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this is true, the man is such a fail magnet.
Tumle
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You can’t play stadia on thin air.. I know it’s cloud based but you still need something to play it on
bukowski81
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You can’t play stadia on thin air.. I know it’s cloud based but you still need something to play it on
Stadia can be a failure because of many reasons, but I assure you that the fact that you need a tv or a pc is not one of them
Tumle
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Not talking about it being a failure, but that you do need some kind of hardware to play it since that’s left out when comparing with psnow..Stadia can be a failure because of many reasons, but I assure you that the fact that you need a tv or a pc is not one of them
logicslayer
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Xbox and PlayStation are safe from Google. You have physical options with Xbox and PlayStation. With Google, you can be left with just a controller in your hand and nothing to show for it.
Kagey K
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If you already own an Xbox one, you can use your Xbox as a free Xcloud server. No need to get a new Xbox.
Sorry just a small correction to your post.
In the business world there is reasons to possibly go to a virtual desktop environment, but the benefits (if there are any) really don't transition over to the consumer side of the house at all. I think Sony has made some points about PS Now and streaming, meaning they said, "we want to preserve these games". At some point all these games get harder and harder to move forward and preserve, in that sense I get the idea of running older games from the cloud because most games are not going to be preserved and enjoyed.
The one thing that Google could do to help ease the issues I and others have brought forward with their service in particular is - release the custom version of Linux to the world.
- People could than build their own box or the PC manufacturers could as well thereby giving everyone a landing spot for their games if they stop using the service or Google shuts it down
- This could also potentially be something people/businesses/governments could rally behind in time for more competition in the PC OS market i.e. Windows (probably wishful thinking but you never know)
The problem is google want no exits.