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Itagaki defeat TECMO & words about his next game
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RockmanWhore said:
Yep. NG2 is the better game. Sigma 2 had several welcome changes, but in the end it's still Ninja Gaiden 2: Ninja Dog Edition.
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Thats all I need to know..
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This does not make any sense. It's an improvement in nearly every way. More content, better graphics: a fleshed out and more refined game overall.iconoclast said:
Downplaying it just because it was made by Itagaki's student is silly. This was a case of the student beating the master.
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Is there a full transscript of the interview yet?
I NEED SCISSORS said:
no way.
I was massive massive hyped for Sigma 2. you can dig the old thread and see how I hyped the game to the moon. But after I got the game, and played it to MNM mode, my interest just dropped. That's not master ninja mode. All what MNM is all about was gone from Sigma2. That's what I called Sleep-Inducing Mode.
My biggest problems with Sigma2
- Reduced number of enemies
- Female characters ARE BROKEN
- Where's the EVIL RYU? We don't get to fight him in the story mode
- lack of Incendiary Shurikens, yup you heard me, lack of IS.
NG2 Ch11 MNM is the best, finest chapter EVER in any action game. No matter how many times you replay it, not one single battle will ever feel the same. It's because you only have split seconds to make a decision, and it's a live-or-die decision.
I NEED SCISSORS said:
It was a crappy remake.
It still had slow down
It still had framerate problems
It still had screen tearing
Less enemies
It was a far easier game that ti became boring instead of keeping you on your toes
Blood gone and ruined from the experience
The additional bosses were pretty crappy and easy
The added characters were useless and ruined the flow of the game.
Removed the explosive shurikens from Ryu
No charge projectiles
Could not jump while shooting the longbow
For every step forward, they took 5 step back and made the game worse IMO. It didn't improve anything.
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I NEED SCISSORS said:
It's just someone adding content to the game. How does that make him a master?
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Kunai said:
"I will give them something they've never seen before"
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HiResDes said:
BloodySinner said:
I didn't say it did. I said it was a student improving on his master's work. Like Sony once said about the Xbox 360, it's like accidentally winning a point against a karate master - it doesn't make you the top dog just because of that one victory. Where they went wrong however, was that they still admitted they had been bested.
And I disagree with the crappy remake sentiments. Because of less enemies it was a closer game to NGB than it was to NG2, and a lot of people will agree with me that this is a good thing. Frankly, I don't care enough about tiny differences that only the most hardcore Master Ninjas would notice - I simply notice that the game looks and plays leagues better than its original counterpart, and that is all that matters to me.
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Is it kinda weird seeing that name and letterhead associated with a Japanese game company? Seriously who would have thought and associated Norse words and a viking ship as the signal piece for a japanese studio?
Unless of course they arn't based in Japan?
Unless of course they arn't based in Japan?
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I just saw the logo of the studio from the Famitsu scans, really cool. Let's hope the website is up soon.
I NEED SCISSORS said:
Except he didn't improve on anything but the boob mechanics. Everything he changed about the game took away from the overall experience. In the end it wasn't NG2, it was more like NGS 1.5
Having less enemies took the experience away. I bet you are one of those that would've bagged Itagaki if he made the game exactly like NGB. You guys would be like "OMG this game is exactly like NGB, no improvement whatsoever"
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No just no
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Yes, please.Itagaki said:
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The info said the site will be up in a few days? Guess it would be a stretch to hope for game info then as well?
MMKirby said:
Do you mean Ninja Gaiden Black? NGB vs. NGS is a fairer comparison, as plain NG is technically weaker than both of those.
I think NGS is a little easier due to the quickslot item usage. They're mostly the same, though. Maybe base it on controller preference? NGS definitely looks nicer, added the dual katanas, and added Rachel chapters (for better or worse). You'll be playing a fantastic action game either way.
ShockingAlberto said:
No, he talked shit about Kamiya for leaving Capcom and making the same type of game. Bayonetta is the same type of game as DMC, i.e. stylish action. It's an evolution of DMC. So Itagaki could still make an action game, but it could be God of War style mixed with Ninja Gaiden combat or something.
With that said, I hope Itagaki makes an action game that evolves the Ninja Gaiden formula despite him trashing Kamiya. Like maybe a samurai game or something with an ultimate emphasis on defence, critical strikes and evasive maneuvers. All at 60fps.
EDIT: Yep, called it. I knew he'd still be making an action game, just different.
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Kunai said:
Itagaki's next game will have a mandatory 20 second logo screen of violent waves panning to a viking ship, and you'll like it.
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Without going down the rating Ninja Gaiden games road too much...
Black is the definitive Ninja Gaiden 1 experience. It's nearly flawless.
Ninja Gaiden 2 is very far from perfect, but I love the pace of the combat. The basic combat, when it works, is even better than Black due to the number of enemies and the dismemberment gameplay, weapons everything. It should be Ninja Gaiden Black turned up to 11. And it is.... but it's also glitchy and broken and has slowdown and doesn't run in 720p and the boss fights aren't fun.... Where Ninja Gaiden Black is flawless, Ninja Gaiden 2 is too flawed to be given anywhere near the same levels of praise.
Which is where Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 should've came in and become the definitive Ninja Gaiden 2 experience, but it didn't. It fixed a lot, but broke some more too. In the end, the definitive Ninja Gaiden 2 experience is some sort of mix of the PS3 and 360 games, but not either. Which is a great shame and it leaves Ninja Gaiden Black standing tall on the top of it's mountain.
I can't wait to see what Itagaki does next. The maker of a good, fun fighting game goes on to make the greatest action game of all time. Where can he go from there? The sky's the limit.
Black is the definitive Ninja Gaiden 1 experience. It's nearly flawless.
Ninja Gaiden 2 is very far from perfect, but I love the pace of the combat. The basic combat, when it works, is even better than Black due to the number of enemies and the dismemberment gameplay, weapons everything. It should be Ninja Gaiden Black turned up to 11. And it is.... but it's also glitchy and broken and has slowdown and doesn't run in 720p and the boss fights aren't fun.... Where Ninja Gaiden Black is flawless, Ninja Gaiden 2 is too flawed to be given anywhere near the same levels of praise.
Which is where Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 should've came in and become the definitive Ninja Gaiden 2 experience, but it didn't. It fixed a lot, but broke some more too. In the end, the definitive Ninja Gaiden 2 experience is some sort of mix of the PS3 and 360 games, but not either. Which is a great shame and it leaves Ninja Gaiden Black standing tall on the top of it's mountain.
I can't wait to see what Itagaki does next. The maker of a good, fun fighting game goes on to make the greatest action game of all time. Where can he go from there? The sky's the limit.
Dead Man Typing said:
I'm more looking at it from mindset of hopeful curiosity. I would like Itagaki to make something incredible. I want to see if he actually can with a segmented team... I'd like to see how much of NG's success is due to his leadership.
Similarly, I still haven't ruled out Hayashi of Tecmo for strong titles in the future. We have yet to see him create something completely on his own, and I'm looking forward to what he brings to the table.
GuardianE said:
Sigma 2 wasn't polished either. There weren't no fixes because in the end it still had all the technical problems NG2 had maybe less frequently but they were still there. All the additions were useless.
NG2 is the better game.
RavenFox said:
Except all the ass kicking he did was in his dreams. Maybe one day he will make a game of his own that will be better than Itagaki games. Until then he can keep wishing he made something good that he can call his own.
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RavenFox said:
i think we understand the principle, but since he did not kick itagakis ass with some added content, i believe, after this logic, he is not the master, right?
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GuardianE said:
his last rethorical question implies that now the student is the master.