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??IV 3D remake to DS

hoqhuuep said:
Personally, I'm hoping for SaGa Frontier (Romancing SaGa IV) DS.

SaGa Frontier is not Romancing SaGa IV. Romancing SaGa was its own trilogy. SaGa Frontier was a duology.

And me? I wouldn't mind having a brand new SaGa trilogy (styled after the original trilogy and Romancing) for the DS... but only if it's gorgeous 2D.
 
linsivvi said:
SE should just make FFVIIr multiplatform to pimp the maximum amount of money. They know this is their biggest cash cow among all cash cows.

Here is a better idea.....

FFVII Remake - PS3
FFVII-2 - Wii
FFVII FPS - XBOX 360
FFVII Kart Racing - DS
FFVII Dating Sim - PSP

We all win.
 
Tabris said:
You're forgetting Unlimited Saga.
That was an anusology.
hoqhuuep said:
Personally, I'm hoping for SaGa Frontier (Romancing SaGa IV) DS.
Did you read this somewhere, or just make it up because you thought you'd sound smart?
 
Tabris said:
You're forgetting Unlimited Saga. Tsk, that's DrinkyCrow's favorite game.

I didn't forget it. It's not Frontier, and it's not Romancing, so it had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
 
Eteric Rice said:
S-E, why the hell haven't you ported Super Mario RPG to the DS yet? >=|

See, now a port or remake of Super Mario RPG is a MUCH better idea than this.

There's no advantage to the gamer for this being on the DS.
 
Tabris said:
See, now a port or remake of Super Mario RPG is a MUCH better idea than this.

There's no advantage to the gamer for this being on the DS.

Eh, I don't know about that. If they were remaking FFVII, I'd hope for a PSP version or a DS version. It'd be a lot more wallet friendly than a PS3 version. :)
 
FFIV, VI, or VI on DS makes sense. VII does not (don't you guys want to see an upgraded FFVII?) The guys who want every single game to come out for only the DS, is the DS the only system you own? If not why wouldn't you want FFVII on a more competent console?
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
Square hates money, and Geno.

If Square hated money, they wouldn't release games on the DS and we would all be happy with remakes that had ps2-quality graphics and voice acting on a handheld, and we could play unique stylus games on the DS like it's a wonderful world.
 
Eteric Rice said:
Eh, I don't know about that. If they were remaking FFVII, I'd hope for a PSP version or a DS version. It'd be a lot more wallet friendly than a PS3 version. :)

Agreed, not to mention that they both have userbases that y'know have LTD's above 1,000,000 in Japan.

A console with 40,000,000 sales and one with 20,000,000 sales are much better to have massive sales.
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
Square hates money, and Geno.

Damn them! >=(

It makes me wonder, though. What would Super Mario RPG look like if it were made by "today's" square-enix?

armoree0.jpg


:D
 
Tabris said:
If Square hated money, they wouldn't release games on the DS and we would all be happy with remakes that had ps2-quality graphics and voice acting on a handheld, and we could play unique stylus games on the DS like it's a wonderful world.
This sustains me.
 
It's bizarre. My sister came up to me today (I just moved home from college, first year) and she said, "Do you still have The Bouncer?"

And I said WTF for and she goes, "I want to play it."

...I stood there in shock for a while, but then I remembered her loving that game.
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
Agreed, not to mention that they both have userbases that y'know have LTD's above 1,000,000 in Japan.

A console with 40,000,000 sales and one with 20,000,000 sales are much better to have massive sales.

bah who cares about userbase, bring a superior version out
 
kpop100 said:
bah who cares about userbase, bring a superior version out

Well, Square definately cares about userbase.

And I definately care about cost. I'd rather buy Final Fantasy on a $129.99 system or a $169.99 system, rather than a $599.99 system.

That's just me.

And most of the world, probably. :P
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
It's bizarre. My sister came up to me today (I just moved home from college, first year) and she said, "Do you still have The Bouncer?"

And I said WTF for and she goes, "I want to play it."

...I stood there in shock for a while, but then I remembered her loving that game.
It's really not a bad game. I stood with Bouncer and MGS2 in hand when buying my PS2 originally knowing I could only afford one at the time and sided with MGS2. Then I rented the Bouncer and, while I was glad I didn't pay $60 for the game, I was glad I played it. I had the fun.
I also knew nothing about it, so that might have to do with why I wasn't QQing about lack of breaking shit or something.
 
Eteric Rice said:
And I definately care about cost. I'd rather buy Final Fantasy on a $129.99 system or a $169.99 system, rather than a $599.99 system.

That's just me.

And most of the world, probably. :P

...but the PS3 will go down in price. In 5 years time, it will be at that price, and when you want to go back to play FFVII remake, do you want to play a superior or inferior version?

I mean the entire reason to remake is generally just for graphics. Why even bother wanting a remake if you don't want the superior version due to price? Why not just ask for a unique game that caters to the strengths of the consoles.
 
I like portability, so frankly put it on DS or PSP. I dungiva****.
 
Tabris said:
...but the PS3 will go down in price. In 5 years time, it will be at that price, and when you want to go back to play FFVII remake, do you want to play a superior or inferior version?

I mean the entire reason to remake is generally just for graphics. Why even bother wanting a remake if you don't want the superior version due to price? Why not just ask for a unique game that caters to the strengths of the consoles.

Tabris, I don't care about 5 years from now. By then I'll probably be able to get a PSP for $79.99 and a DS Lite for $49.99. The PS3 isn't the only thing that will drop in price, you know. And I don't care about HD and all of that crap, I'd personally "rather" it be on a portable system.
 
Chris Michael said:
Come on, what the bloody shit? We already have portable FFIV. Just ****ing move on damnit, go with VII already!
Trade in your DS, I'm sure you'll like the fighting game better. And the FFT port with slowdown.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I like portability, so frankly put it on DS or PSP. I dungiva****.

...but you can already play both of these games on GBA and PSP.

FFVII will be a downgrade to the DS and FFIV won't get voice acting/non-SD graphics on the DS. A PSP version of FFVII remake wouldn't be as good either as A) Limited storage space on a UMD for the game FFVIIRemake should be, B) It's a cinematic RPG, it's meant to be played at home on a big TV.
 
Tabris said:
...but you can already play both of these games on GBA and PSP.

FFVII will be a downgrade to the DS and FFIV won't get voice acting/non-SD graphics on the DS. A PSP version of FFVII remake wouldn't be as good either as A) Limited storage space on a UMD for the game FFVIIRemake should be, B) It's a cinematic RPG, it's meant to be played at home on a big TV.
I can play both of what games on GBA and PSP? FFIV? FFVII? What the shit are you talking about.
And fukc your cinematic RPG shit. Just give me the game on a handheld.
 
Tabris said:
...but you can already play both of these games on GBA and PSP.

FFVII will be a downgrade to the DS and FFIV won't get voice acting/non-SD graphics on the DS. A PSP version of FFVII remake wouldn't be as good either as A) Limited storage space on a UMD for the game FFVIIRemake should be, B) It's a cinematic RPG, it's meant to be played at home on a big TV.

Final Fantasy I - VI were ALL supposed to be played on a big TV at one point in time. Things change.

And in all honesty, they could probably do Final Fantasy VII on the PSP without cinimatics and just do cut scenes in game (like Zelda: TP did). That alone saves a lot of storage space.

As for a DS version. It would more likely be an enhanced port than a remake. The old 3D character models and levels would be replaced, but the pre-rendered stuff would probably remain in tact.
 
Tabris said:
...but you can already play both of these games on GBA and PSP.

FFVII will be a downgrade to the DS and FFIV won't get voice acting/non-SD graphics on the DS. A PSP version of FFVII remake wouldn't be as good either as A) Limited storage space on a UMD for the game FFVIIRemake should be, B) It's a cinematic RPG, it's meant to be played at home on a big TV.

As I said in the other thread, FFVII on the DS wouldn't be a downgrade, aside from lower resolution/compressed FMVs. The in-game graphics themselves would see an improvement (as is evidenced by games like FFXII: RW and CC) with a talented team on the job. It wouldn't be a substantial upgrade at all (in fact, probably just a bit better) but it would certainly sell 1559890 bazillion copies.

But, if you think (at this point) Square's greenlighting big budget FF remakes for any home console
other than a small possibility of Wii
then you just have to take a look at some of their recent FF output. (FF GBA ports to PSP say hi).
 
Error said:
**** this 'cinematic' rpg bullshit, seriously who gives a shit?

I do! Just like you guys care about portability and cheap consoles. I care about cinematic RPGs. I want to have the scenes I loved in FFVII with voice acting and high quality graphics. I don't want FF7r on PS2, Wii, DS, PSP, my mobile phone... I want it on PS3 or 360 as I can afford both, and either one would provide the SUPERIOR experience in terms of a remake (graphics, voice acting, music quality, sound effects (in-game 5.1), etc)
 
Tabris said:
I do! Just like you guys care about portability and cheap consoles. I care about cinematic RPGs. I want to have the scenes I loved in FFVII with voice acting and high quality graphics.

I'm with you on this one, buddy.
 
Final Fantasy VII is a very cinematic RPG though. I mean, it wasn't literally titled a "cinematic RPG" like Parasite Eve was, but it was marketed and presented as such.

I still remember those commercials!
 
Tabris said:
I do! Just like you guys care about portability and cheap consoles. I care about cinematic RPGs. I want to have the scenes I loved in FFVII with voice acting and high quality graphics.
Well, I'm very sorry to hear this. I want my gameplay, kthx.
 
RevenantKioku said:
Well, I'm very sorry to hear this. I want my gameplay, kthx.

How would gameplay change in a remake for FFVII, a traditional battle system, between consoles/handhelds? Please let me know how the DS added anything to the gameplay of FFIII except excluding a couple button presses here and there?
 
TheJollyCorner said:
then it's a good thing you gentlemen have the Dragon Quest series, right?
After the shitcockfest that was FFXII, yes. But I still have faith. See tag.
Tabris said:
How would gameplay change in a remake for FFVII, a traditional battle system?
Well, playing them on a handheld adds a certain panache, but if the standard fair was kept up, I'm very satisfied by added dungeons, bosses and fux'd up awesome equipment. Those all relate to gameplay. Having another scene that gets mocked because of mediocre VA isn't really on my list of reason why I'd like to see FF games remade/ported.
 
Tabris said:
I do! Just like you guys care about portability and cheap consoles. I care about cinematic RPGs. I want to have the scenes I loved in FFVII with voice acting and high quality graphics. I don't want FF7r on PS2, Wii, DS, PSP, my mobile phone... I want it on PS3 or 360 as I can afford both, and either one would provide the SUPERIOR experience in terms of a remake (graphics, voice acting, music quality, sound effects (in-game 5.1), etc)

Its people like you that made the JRPG genre the shitfest it is today. People like you are why Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter does not have a **** awesome sequel.
 
Tabris said:
How would gameplay change in a remake for FFVII, a traditional battle system? Please let me know how the DS added anything to the gameplay of FFIII?

SE would ruin it somehow... Probably by adding a shitload of QTE events so it can emulate the whole AC thing.
 
RevenantKioku said:
After the shitcockfest that was FFXII, yes. But I still have faith. See tag.

whoa.... wait a sec.... you yearn for gameplay-heavy FF's but didn't like FFXII? Did you like XI? Because, to me, FFXII was the most gameplay-over-story FF since FFV.
 
bluemax said:
Its people like you that made the JRPG genre the shitfest it is today. People like you are why Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter does not have a **** awesome sequel.

No one has ruined the JRPG genre. It's an incredibly diverse, large, popular genre filled with "cinematic" RPGs and "noncinematic" RPGs.

Dragon Quarter didn't sell because the boxart is ****ing creepy as hell and SOME COMPANY decided to promote it like it was the plague.
 
I agree with the people who don't want FFVII on the go, it wasn't made to be a portable RPG. It's like putting Xenosaga on PSP. FFIV does work on the go though, it's not like FFVII. I don't want the flawed GBA ports either, I want a good one.
 
TheJollyCorner said:
whoa.... wait a sec.... you yearn for gameplay-heavy FF's but didn't like FFXII? Did you like XI? Because, to me, FFXII was the most gameplay-over-story FF since FFV.
I like good game play. And good stat systems. And even failing all that give me a moderately interesting story and maybe I'll grant you a few points. FFXII failed on so many accounts it's not even worth me getting back into. That said, if the LB is retooled enough for FFXIIi, I'll probably bite. Third time buying FFXII...I'm such a whore. :D
jj984jj said:
I agree with the people who don't want FFVII on the go, it wasn't made to be a portable RPG. It's like putting Xenosaga on PSP. FFIV does work on the go though, it's not like FFVII. I don't want the flawed GBA ports either, I want a good one.
I'm...I'm trying to draw the correlation but no...it's just not there.
Okay, why is FF7 not "made" to be a portable RPG? Why wouldn't Xenosaga work on the PSP? You know, a system you can PUT TO SLEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF LONGASS CUTSCENES IF YOU NEEDED TO!
 
Avalon said:
SE would ruin it somehow... Probably by adding a shitload of QTE events so it can emulate the whole AC thing.

So SE would add that to the DS/Wii/360/PS3 all the same, so again, how do the graphics change?

BTW, Dragon Quarter is my 5th favorite RPG of this generation and how wasn't it at least semi-cinematic? It was pretty focused on the story with cutscenes. I mean the whole game is modeled towards re-playing to get those SOL's to further the story/learn more.
 
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