Launch. Software.
We haven't even seen Nintendo's first big graphical foray into HD yet with Pikmin 3. Seriously I'm not sure if you're trolling or just dense as hell.
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Launch. Software.
We haven't even seen Nintendo's first big graphical foray into HD yet with Pikmin 3. Seriously I'm not sure if you're trolling or just dense as hell.
Joe Molotov
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Hundreds of Thousands of Unity Developers!!!!!! :lol
Iwata should have said that he saw a thousand points of light.
Iwata should have said that he saw a thousand points of light.
Carpe Diem
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Dude it's only six months with NO major game developed from 'the ground up'. By the way, have u played LCUC?
Or just good games.
Silver_DNA
Member
Nintendo, I love you, but your system came out last November not this summer. It needs software now. Anything. Little downloadable things. Old titles. Experimental things. Throw us current owners a bone here.
No, you're right. They just put out two New Super Mario Bros within six months of each other with a further expansion to come this summer, a new Pokemon every year, a new Mario RPG every year, a new Professor Layton every year, a new Mario sports game every year, etc.
XtremeXpider
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They looked like a new generation games compared to PS2 and Xbox.
Irrelevant. If a hardware has clearly more power it´s going to be visible from day 1.
And i have seen enough of Pikmin 3 to determine that it´s at best mediocre current gen graphics.
Zoramon089
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This is literally a terrible post. Looking at launch title ports as proof of a system's power...lol
Are you just making things up? Pokemon isn't yearly. Mario RPGs aren't yearly. Layton isn't even a Nintendo game and Mario Sports definitely aren't yearly either
Yeah i´ve tried it and it looks terrible.
Because these games are.... (badly) ported 360/ps3 games?
This is the part that stood out to me as well. I wonder what was actually said before translation. I think the problem is games are budgeted and planned years in advance, so even if some 3rd parties have great success on Wii U in 2014, we'd only see more support a year or two later...and that's going with Iwata's assumption that non participating devs would jump into the fray...which, like you said, didn't happen with Wii, even as it was breaking all kinds of records.
JordanN
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Do you think we will see games at E3 that look as good as games like god of war and uncharted?
Basically. Who does Iwata think he's fooling?
Carpe Diem
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R U serious? I propose that unlike Sony or Microsoft, Nintendo could comfortably survive on their alone. Nintendo DOES NOT NEED THIRD PARTY DEVELOPERS. Therein lies the quandry.
Maybe. I can imagine that Retro for example would be able to pull this off.
I am not sure what the connection between being underpowered and good games. The system will (I'm sure even now has) good games. Power is a different issue, which was what I was talking about. I mean people aren't saying it's underpowered compared to ps360, just compared to the ps4/720. It's not a misunderstanding unless Iwata thinks youtube comments by trolls on how wiiu is weaker than the current gen is the issue
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Runner 2, Trine 2 and NFS MW U have all showed significant improvements over the PS360 versions of the same games. And of course, that's even before taking into account that the Wii U games are all wirelessly rendering a second image at the same time with zero lag.
That sounds like some kind of ninja stuff :lol
Yeah, the last games of these franchises you've mentioned were good and performed well on the market because those graphics
XtremeXpider
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Carpe Diem
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Trolling much? Or because it isn't the obligatory FPS?
NSMBW was in 2009, Pokemon Black and White was in 2010 (B&W2 is basically something to tide over people til X&Y), Paper Mario Sticker Star isn't a RPG, so the last "Mario RPG" was in 2010, Layton's a Level 5 game but I'll let it slide, Mario Tennis and Golf are the first back to back sports games since 2010.
Not exactly CoD levels of cranking franchises out every year. Can we please end the bullshit?
I didn´t know we were discussing sales here but i´m pretty confident at least some of them (Halo 4, UC 3) did fine.
JordanN
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Nope.
Starphoenix
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Why don't you go search the eShop for titles like Pushmo, Dillon's Rolling Western, HarmoKnight, and some of the other titles floating around. It only makes sense that Nintendo is creatively bankrupt when they have no new IPs to show for their new console after six months. I'm sure we're all disappointed having found out every project under development by Nintendo and their subsidiaries for the next five years are nothing but sequels. Not just the "Punch Out" or "Sin and Punishment" or "Kid Icarus" sequels, but the ugly Mario games. Two Mario games is way too many, forget their play style, perspective and sales.
Because those dudes are retiring.
The graphics are about on par with the 5 year old GTA IV, and yes they look awful. We´ve seen much much better looking open world games years ago (Red Dead Redemption and Infamous for example).
If Nintendo releases a strong first party game showing off the technical capabilities of the console, it'll quell the stupid arguments about its power or lack thereof.
they don't make a new mario rpg every year, but the two franchises that fall into that category play nothing like each other.
if activision had call of duty: real-time strategy game franchise, call of duty: first-person shooter, and call of duty: third-person stealth game, and rotated the franchises so you only got one every three years or so, that would be more accurate to what nintendo does. there would probably be less complaining too.
NSMB (Once a gen)
NSLB (DLC, i suppose no other dev has ever put out DLC for a game they released. Shame on Nintendo for putting out DLC)
Pokemon (Yes the first ever 3D Pokemon, nothing but a cheap sequel and a yearly one as well)
Mario RPG every Year (Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi... yep every single year these 2 are pumped out, even though you know Paper Mario was announced in 2011 and the last Paper Mario was in 2007 and the last Mario & Luigi came out in 2005. Yeah every year alright, id love to know how long a year is in your world).
Professor Layton every year (As far as i know this is Level 5's IP which Nintendo publishes rather than develops).
The game ran like shit, had constant clipping and aliasing issues. It looked like a slightly prettier Xbox 1 game in action.
I've been wondering that myself. They seem to really be pushing at being the console for indies. It also helps with Miyamoto's new role of working on smaller niche projects.
No, there are 5 lights.
Joe Molotov
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They probably should have done that launch.
XtremeXpider
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Can't argue against that. It was a terrible miscalculation to trust 3rd parties with providing decent ports of games that weren't 8-10 months old and could be purchased for half the price. They should have been selfish and just dumped their best work all within the first three months of launch.
Do you honestly believe that once the PS4/720 titles come out the wiiu will look favorable in comparison? The system will definitely create games that will set it apart from current gen...but the underpowered impressions are not going to go away with two much more powerful systems about to be launched. Constant comparisons will be made and it's a choice Nintendo themselves made. Like I said it is what it is. It's not a misunderstanding
JordanN
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Wasn't aware it was from a pre-alpha build (I've actually seen it quoted and dissected before so I assumed it was legit).
And I didn't get it from google either but the 4th page of gamefaqs
http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/516505-kameo-elements-of-power/images?page=4
Denial doesn't make the truth go away. It was prettier but ultimately nothing mindblowing.
When you put it in that perspective, I'll have to agree with you. At this point Nintendo probably should brush aside the power issue and try to focus on creating the best user experience it can. It worked for Apple, it could work for them.
Phoenician_Viking
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The WiiU is severely underpowered.
Ahahahahahahha.
Carpe Diem
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Dude you better play through the game before making such definitive statements.
It is a stupid idea anyway. Ports don´t sell a system. You need high quality exclusives for that from day 1.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
What do you mean by favorable? I know last gen alot of Wii games were criticized heavily for graphics for reviews due to ps360 looking that much better. I say we dont see much of that this time around.