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James Bond 23 - SKYFALL (Javier Bardem CONFIRMED as Bond villain!)

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Peru said:
And it has some really ICONIC Bond scenes, like the one at the Opera, which is not just about the action.
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Shit, I would say that QoS has the truest distillation of the Bond character as Fleming wrote him in any of the films. Its all in there.
 
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Verily it does, along with the others mentioned too. 2011 is like a mega-watt year for blockbusters, and then 2012 rolls up and is a 25 giga-watt year for them. This year sucked for big blockbusters, so Im really looking forward to back to back huge years.
 
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OH GOD I LOVE BOND!!

CR is my favorite Bond movie. After that there is Goldeneye.
Every 2 years sounds good.
 
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Solo said:
Verily it does, along with the others mentioned too. 2011 is like a mega-watt year for blockbusters, and then 2012 rolls up and is a 25 giga-watt year for them. This year sucked for big blockbusters, so Im really looking forward to back to back huge years.
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And this year has pretty much been the batteries recharging after 2009 blew out.
 
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szhred said:
OH GOD I LOVE BOND!!

CR is my favorite Bond movie. After that there is Goldeneye.
Every 2 years sounds good.
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Good God every time I watch Casino Royale, it feels fresh and new and I feel the same emotions as the first time I watched it, despite knowing how the poker game goes down. Such a magnificent movie.
 
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Awesome news. The thought of getting cheated out of more Daniel Craig Bond is too much to take.

I'm really curious to see what a Peter Morgan Bond script reads like...that is, if he's still involved.
 
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He's out, Mifune.

Scullibundo said:
And this year has pretty much been the batteries recharging after 2009 blew out.
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The fact that I get to see Daniel Craig in Dragon Tattoo, Tintin and Bond 23 all within 12 months is fucking awesome.
 
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He's out, Mifune.



The fact that I get to see Daniel Craig in Dragon Tattoo, Tintin and Bond 23 all within 12 months is fucking awesome.
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Yep.

December 2011 could probably rival an entire year's slate of movies for me. Though there are reports that Tin Tin is being rescheduled to an earlier October release in some territories.
 
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Dragon Tattoo should move up, not Tintin. Dragon Tattoo will have more of that award lustre to it, and its not exactly a "round up the family over the holidays and go see it" kind of movie. Tintin should stay where it is but Tattoo would probably be better suited to an October release.
 
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Dragon Tattoo should move up, not Tintin. Dragon Tattoo will have more of that award lustre to it, and its not exactly a "round up the family over the holidays and go see it" kind of movie. Tintin should stay where it is but Tattoo would probably be better suited to an October release.
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Agreed. But it seems like they're just releasing Tin Tin in Europe about 2 months prior to the US release which is a clusterfuck idea for obvious reasons. A few days is cool, a couple months? Stupid.

Either way, if Australia mirrors the UK release date I'll be happy.
 
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So the 4th Daniel Craig Bond film will go up against Best Picture winner Avatar 2?

yacobod said:
new bond needs a bigger, longer, and more elaborate underwater climax imo
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Your mom needs a bigger, longer, and more elaborate underwater climax.
 
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QoS doesn't entirely stand on its own, and it's absolutely a coda to Casino Royale, but oh what a wonderful coda it is. It's just as much of a love letter to what makes Bond great. I can understand objecting to the 'closure' at the end - since on some level I agree that Bond should just be someone who's clearly turned into a sociopath - but I think it works and I think that, handled properly, the next film will be able to take him in a very bold direction that builds off of what CR and QoS have done without needing to be directly referential to them. <3
 
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Mifune said:
Bummer. Who was last onboard?
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He was. He wrote a treatment which EON loved, then MGM went in the shitter and everything stopped. He never turned it into a screenplay or anything, and has since left the project.

You can be sure Purvis and Wade will once again factor into this, but if Bond 21, 22, and 23 before Morgan left are any indication, another writer will be rewrite whatever they do.

Screenwriter Peter Morgan has confirmed he did not complete an outline for the 23rd James Bond film before leaving the project. Bond 23 is still lacking a first draft script.

Back in June 2009, EON Productions officially confirmed Peter Morgan ("The Queen", "Frost/Nixon") was joining the regular 007 duo of Neal Purvis and Robert Wade to pen the script for Daniel Craig's third outing as James Bond - the 23rd in the series.

It is understood that Morgan worked on the project from July to October 2009, before pre-production work was suspended (it was later officially confirmed that the film was on ice in April 2010) due to MGM's financial woes. In December last year, just after he had stopped work on the outline, Morgan teased local reporters in Vienna (where he had recently moved with his family) that it was "a shocking story".

In an interview published today by ComingSoon, Morgan confirms his tenure on Bond 23 was short. Asked whether he had completed a first draft of the script, Morgan said, "No, no, no, I hadn't gotten that far. I was working on an outline when they said, "We're going to have to stop this process now," and when it came to the point where I was going to commit to doing the Freddie Mercury film, I sort of discussed with my reps that it would probably take me out of all consideration and that's what's happened, and I wish them the best."

Just before EON's official statement about the film's production freeze, producer Barbara Broccoli confirmed Sam Mendes was lined up to direct Bond 23. Industry buzz quickly surrounded Patrick Marber, the acclaimed playwright, who was understood to be wanted by Mendes as Morgan's replacement. Producers said at the time that the switch in writers was 'purely speculation', but it is now clear that a new writer was to be brought in with Morgan departing.

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Update (24th October 2010)

Further to his brief remarks last week, Morgan has talked in length about his work on the 23rd James Bond film, how he got to be involved, where it was left, and his thoughts on Sam Mendes directing Daniel Craig as 007: "[Working on Bond 23] was short lived. I started work on it and then the whole thing went to hell. Now, I'm so happy doing something else, I wouldn't [necessarily go back] even if the whole thing came back. They've got a tough job. When I was involved last year it was from scratch. I have no idea if they've even regrouped yet with the situation being the way it is. There came a point where we all just had to say, 'look, I'm just going to step off'. I just wrote a treatment, never a script."

"I went [to EON Productions] with an original idea. I pitched the idea. They had already expressed interest and we had met a year before in 2008. So I said, 'if I come up with something, I'd be interested, but if I don't come up with anything, I'm probably not your man'. But then I came up with something and everyone was interested in the idea, so I wrote the treatment, and it remains to be seen what they do! I suspect if they start again, they'll start entirely again [from scratch]. I think there was momentum behind my idea for the moment, and I suspect that moment's probably gone."

"I feel far more liberated working on the Freddie Mercury project. I think for most British men, especially those over 40, the Bond idea is heaven. I was thrilled to be involved... But I feel like it's a dated idea now. Having tried to do it, I'm not sure it's possible to do it. But I wish them luck, because I'm first in line [to see it]. I do think that the absence of social reality in the Bond films [is a problem] - and I do hope they manage to get that in a script - that you can believe in him and he's not just a man in a dinner jacket. He's a creature of the Cold War. I personally struggle to believe that a British secret agent is still saving the world."

"I'm very encouraged if Sam Mendes [directs the film], because I'm sure he wouldn't put his name to a load of nonsense. He's smart and he's British and he would care deeply about the franchise. He's got his feet on the ground and understands what's going on in the world. He wouldn't want to do a Bond film to make it a pantomime. The holy grail is to combine thought and action, and if you can deliver a mainstream piece of entertainment that is also highly provocative, and original... Everybody's got their fingers crossed that [they can raise the bar]."
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badcrumble said:
QoS doesn't entirely stand on its own, and it's absolutely a coda to Casino Royale, but oh what a wonderful coda it is. It's just as much of a love letter to what makes Bond great. I can understand objecting to the 'closure' at the end - since on some level I agree that Bond should just be someone who's clearly turned into a sociopath - but I think it works and I think that, handled properly, the next film will be able to take him in a very bold direction that builds off of what CR and QoS have done without needing to be directly referential to them. <3
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<3

You get it, my man
 
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Casino Royale was one of my favorite movies of the last decade and I really loved Quantum of Solace too.

I'm down for three more with Craig.
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Quoted fo' the truth. I thought I was one of few that liked the remorse and coldness in Craig's second outing. Great action too, even if it did move fast.

Will be waiting for Bond in November, as usual. :D
 
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Solo said:
I guaran-goddamn-tee you that Craig will not ask to be let out of his contract at any point now.
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Do you have access or some knowledge that we don't? The reason I ask is that Craig has never been that happy being Bond. And it would be interesting to see just how the MGM situation pans out over the next year or so.

At the very least between 'Cowboys' and headlining the 'Girl With The...' trilogy he'll be looklng to improve the terms of his deal, which, I understand aren't great.

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And a 2 year cycle is completely reasonable. It just might mean partnering with Sony instead of making the films 100% themselves.
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While a 2 year gap isn't impossible the simple fact of the matter is that Pierce Brosnan was never in the sort of demand as an actor that Daniel Craig is just now.

Bond films are big, expensive, long productions and they would have to try and fit round CRAIG'S potentially busy 'dance card'.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Craig isn't the type of person to ask to bail out on his contract. He knew he was in for the long haul with the films and its thanks to the films that he's able to spread out to directors like Fincher. Of course, working with Spielberg on Munich helped too.
 
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Busty said:
Do you have access or some knowledge that we don't? The reason I ask is that Craig has never been that happy being Bond.
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Well you're into fiction right away, busty. He would never have taken the role if he wasn't happy to do it. In fact, after all the backlash he received when cast in the role, when the movie finally came out and made all his naysayers eat crow and earned him a BAFTA nom, he was pleased as punch. I have never once, not ever, seen a remark or a report about Craig that indicates he isn't anything but 100% committed to this series and fulfilling his contractual obligations. Very recently he has once again expressed his desire to return to the role and get moving again. Unlike say, Connery, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan, who all voiced their desire to either leave or have major changes made, or various other belly-aching, during their tenures.

Bond films are big, expensive, long productions and they would have to try and fit round CRAIG'S potentially busy 'dance card'.
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Yes, Craig is a hotter commodity right now then any Bond actor ever was during his tenure (well, maybe Connery compares), but the first thing his agent looks at when accepting roles is the timeline of the next Bond, which has always been his top priority.

Like Sculli said, EON is the hand that feeds, and Craig isn't going to bite it. He actually has integrity. Now, will he ever sign another contract extension? Hell no. But he will honor the remainder of his contract.
 
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They need to release a special edition of Quantum of Solace with the original opening song replacing the White/Keys one
 
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Great News... glad to see MGM wont fade and bond is still on the way... i guess... Blood Stone will have to hold me over.... till the delicious trailers start pouring in

badcrumble said:
QoS doesn't entirely stand on its own, and it's absolutely a coda to Casino Royale, but oh what a wonderful coda it is. It's just as much of a love letter to what makes Bond great. I can understand objecting to the 'closure' at the end - since on some level I agree that Bond should just be someone who's clearly turned into a sociopath - but I think it works and I think that, handled properly, the next film will be able to take him in a very bold direction that builds off of what CR and QoS have done without needing to be directly referential to them. <3
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Exactly... that's what i took from QoS.

the next film... Bond can go after Quantum and everything that led up to the inevitable conclusion will mean that much more... that's 2 films worth of back story and motive to build upon.
 
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Never got the QOS hate. Maybe because I saw it on BR after all the hype so I basically expected CR Act 4, but it worked amazingly at that. Sure the action could have been better shot but everything else at the script level was superb. Mathis, Felix, M, and yes, Bond, all had great story story scenes, I really bought into this ensemble of characters. I liked that the geopolitics angle was semi-intelligent and not another mad scientist trying to take over the world. And yeah, opera scene. Also, Bond escaping after being arrested.
 
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I can't wait for more info on this movie. I watched Bond movies my entire life and love what Craig brought to the series. CR and QoS are two of my 3 favorite Bond movies.

Hell, after playing through some of Goldeneye on the Wii I would love to see them remake that with Craig. :lol
 
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Solo said:
tl;dr Live and Let Die adaptation plz
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Isn't that the novel where Felix get's eaten by sharks, so he gets a hook hand or something?

I never read the books, but I heard that scene from License to Kill was taken from it.
 
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Craig's a great Bond because he's the first actor since Connery to pull off the act of being a complete asshole while also being very likable.
 
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Concept17 said:
I just want more Craig. By far my favorite bond.
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I like him a lot too, especially after the horrible Brosnan movies. Would have loved to seen Dalton do more, and I'm glad this shit didn't fuck Craig over in a similar way.

2012 seems so far off....
 
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Solo said:
Yes, Craig is a hotter commodity right now then any Bond actor ever was during his tenure (well, maybe Connery compares), but the first thing his agent looks at when accepting roles is the timeline of the next Bond, which has always been his top priority.

Like Sculli said, EON is the hand that feeds, and Craig isn't going to bite it. He actually has integrity. Now, will he ever sign another contract extension? Hell no. But he will honor the remainder of his contract.
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I could maybe see the other studios playing hardball with their respective Craig franchises, between the Millennium movies and Universal hoping Cowboys vs Aliens will spawn sequels. Scheduling is already tough for him, that Dream House movie hasn't been able to get its reshoots with Craig so it's basically in an indefinite holding pattern.
 
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badcrumble said:
Craig's a great Bond because he's the first actor since Connery to pull off the act of being a complete asshole while also being very likable.
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I think you may be forgetting Timothy Dalton...

Have you even seen The Living Daylights/Licence to Kill? :lol
 
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richisawesome said:
I think you may be forgetting Timothy Dalton...

Have you even seen The Living Daylights/Licence to Kill? :lol
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Dalton is the bees knees. I'm still pissed he didn't get a longer run as Bond.
 
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I loved Casino and liked Quantum (seriously don't get the hate). I want them to finish the story built in those two.

Maybe it can be saved for a fifth film, so Bond 23 and 24 are related to each other, but Bond 24 leads back to Quantum/Casino and into Bond 25.
 
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DoctorWho said:
Dalton is the bees knees. I'm still pissed he didn't get a longer run as Bond.
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Yeah, it's quite apparent that Goldeneye started off being written with him in mind. Obviously, it ended up as a Brosnan film (and IMO the only decent one he did).
 
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KeeSomething said:
Isn't that the novel where Felix get's eaten by sharks, so he gets a hook hand or something?

I never read the books, but I heard that scene from License to Kill was taken from it.
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That is correct. The book is dynamite, if a bit racist. The movie (IIRC) is about half-accurate. The book makes the entire thing much more desperate and compelling.


Edit: damn, that Bassey QoS theme is great.
 
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richisawesome said:
I think you may be forgetting Timothy Dalton...
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Its funny, because Craig's Bond is most similar to Dalton's Bond (and both are Fleming's Bond), and had this MGM business not gotten cleared up, his Bond tenure might have been identical to Dalton's - fantastic opening movie, very good second outing, then a long delay followed by quitting.

We were probably about a year away from Craig becoming Dalton 2.0.
 
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