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James Bond 23 - SKYFALL (Javier Bardem CONFIRMED as Bond villain!)

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It's not Brosnan's bond movies that make me dislike him. It's his portrayal of Bond itself. Way less of a harder edge than Lazenby or Craig or Connery etc.

He's like Roger Moore-lite. Great outside of Bond films though (like Thomas Crown, Matador and Ghost Writer)
 

Penguin

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DMczaf said:
I wonder if there were Brosnan fans in this much denial after Tomorrow Never Dies.

I always dug Brosnan in the role, I think he got handed some awful scripts, but I think if it wasn't for his personality and charisma those films would have been so much worse.
 
QoS has its problems, but to date it's the only Bond that does a great job of character development for Bond himself. Previously, the only ones that even tried were OHMSS, and License to Kill.

TND only needed a pretty minor rewrite, and recasting of Paris and Jinx. The worst thing about that movie is that the ridiculous-seeming scheme turns out to not really be the scheme after all, and watchers spend half the movie shaking their heads at it, only to find out that there's a more realistic (and interesting) scheme behind it.

The problem with all the Brosnan Bond flicks is there there are hints of brilliance (or at least solid ideas) that are buried in absolute shit. Goldeneye excepted, I really like that one. TWINE in particular has some awesome elements that are completely skewered in execution.
 
DMczaf said:
I wonder if there were Brosnan fans in this much denial after Tomorrow Never Dies.


TND wasn't that bad, I just found Spottiswoode completely unable to direct action scenes


still a Brosnan fan. Man had charisma, suaveness and he was made to wear a tux
 
Anasui Kishibe said:
TND wasn't that bad, I just found Spottiswoode completely unable to direct action scenes


still a Brosnan fan. Man had charisma, suaveness and he was made to wear a tux
No one can rock a tux as good as Connery

sean-connery.jpg


Bond needs to start smoking again.
 
Gunloc said:
Who needs a tux?

http://imgur.com/icGcf.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
Daniel Craig looks smashing in a Tux as well. Actually, Daniel Craig looks smashing in anything. Or even nothing for that matter. Definitely an inspired choice for Bond.
 
RustyNails said:
Daniel Craig looks smashing in a Tux as well. Actually, Daniel Craig looks smashing in anything. Or even nothing for that matter. Definitely an inspired choice for Bond.
Agreed, the man is dapper as hell.

Daniel Craig made Bond back into a legit style icon again, not just a cliche.
 

Solo

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RustyNails said:
Daniel Craig looks smashing in a Tux as well. Actually, Daniel Craig looks smashing in anything. Or even nothing for that matter.


You got that right. The man is a complete boss.
 

Hamfam

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I think Broson's portryal of Bond in GoldenEye was my favourite of all the Bonds. Tommorow Never Dies was okay....but the films did start to get a bit corny and silly over awhile.
 
Listening to Craig revoice some of the iconic lines in GoldenEye for the Wii game made me a true convert--he just does it so much better and badass than Brosnan ever did, and I used to consider myself a Brosnan fan. Brosnan was smooth and suave but definitely lacked toughness. Craig has that hard edge in his voice that's just so awesome.

"For England, Alec. Always for England."
"No. For me."

Too bad the new 006 didn't have shit on Sean Bean.

Incidentally, I'm interested in getting into the source material. Does anyone have recommendations about where to start? What are the best books in the Bond series?
 
The first "new" Bond is always awesome. Same with Brosnan in GoldenEye.

Just hoping they can keep the Craig ones from getting too formulaic or too self-referential.
 

Solo

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Solo said:
MGM will be out of bankruptcy on December 2.

Boo-ya! Things moving along briskly now.

Creditors silent on MGM reorganization plan
Studio can go ahead with bankruptcy hearing

MGM's creditors have declined to object to the studio's reorganization plan, clearing the way for a key bankruptcy court hearing later this week.
No objections have been filed to the plan and a meeting Tuesday that MGM was required to hold for creditors -- where they could question MGM reps -- drew no attendees, according to MGM attorney Jay Goffman.

MGM's hearing has been set for Thursday in Manhattan before Judge Stuart Bernstein and will cover the adequacy of its disclosure statement and solicitation procedures and confirmation of the plan.

MGM was last in court on Nov. 12 when Bernstein authorized amendments to the studio's plan, including the exclusion of the Spyglass Entertainment library from the deal. Spyglass toppers Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum will become the heads of MGM once it emerges from Chapter 11 protection.

The Chapter 11 plan will eliminate $5 billion in debt by converting a loan through J.P. Morgan into stock in the reorganized company.

A source familiar with the situation said Tuesday that Ann Mather, former chief financial officer of Pixar Animation Studios, is likely to join the new MGM board of directors. MGM disclosed a week ago in a court filing that its board would include three members who were part of the creditors committee -- Patrick H. Daugherty of Highland Capital Management, Christopher Pucillo of Solus Alternative Asset Management and Kevin Ulrich of Anchorage Capital Group.

MGM has also tapped MySpace co-president Jason O. Hirschhorn and former CBS chief financial officer Frederic G. Reynolds as directors along with Barber and Birnbaum.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118028242?refCatId=13

Also, David Arnold on Bond 23:

Now that it looks like the next James Bond is finally getting going, have you thought about what you’d like to do for the next score? And how do you hope Bond’s character, and the series continues to evolve?

"I haven’t thought about it yet. We only just got the news that we’re back on. But ‘there’s many a slip twixt cup and lip’ So I will keep quiet until I get a script and then start writing ideas. I just hope the next one is as good as my favorites, as I think everyone does. And I’m always interested in what Daniel Craig brings to the part. But like most things with movies, if it ain’t on the page etc… All I can say is that I’m looking forward to a great script for it, alongside every other Bond fan in the world!"

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=9110&t=mi6&s=news
 

Solo

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Scullibundo said:
Awesome. Also, you need to find a better Craig as Bond avatar.

Pretty sure my avatar isn't Craig as Bond. Just Craig in a suit for some magazine photoshoot.
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
BakedPigeon said:
I could watch Casino Royale once a month and love it and I dont like james bond films much. Please be good.
casino royale is rewatchable as hell.

edit: ha! people will know what you saaaiid!
 

Solo

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RustyNails said:
Is Freida Pinto still set to be the Bond girl?

She never was. Nobody has been cast (outside of Craig and Dench and most likely Jeffery Wright). There isn't even a script yet :lol
 
Solo said:
She never was. Nobody has been cast (outside of Craig and Dench and most likely Jeffery Wright). There isn't even a script yet :lol
I heard rumorings when Mendes name was set as Director. Found this:

A source said: "Sam has been talking about Bond for months now and is so excited about it.

"The project has been in the pipeline for months and Freida was always the dream Bond girl, but initially she was nervous about accepting it. This is going to be the most ambitious 007 yet. Sam plans to reinvent the genre.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news...to-be-directed-by-sam-mendes-115875-22125171/

Sounds dodgy because the article mentions whole lotta crap, like Bond 23 set in Kabul, Olivia Wilde also being a Bond girl, etc. It attributes all this to a "source".
 

Solo

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Trust me, if you post every rumor that comes out with respect to Bond, you'll have a full-time job for the next 2 years. Don't believe ANYTHING unless it comes from EON. Unless its been officially announced, its got a 99.9% chance of being garbage.

Every actress in Hollywood will be "rumored" to play the Bond girl in Bond 23 over the next 2 years.
 

Solo

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Choo-choo!

MGM eyes Bond 23 in 2012, yearlong 50th anniversary celebrations

Now that MGM's has completed its restructuring with $500 million in fresh funding, one of the top priorities is to renew James Bond's license to kill - reports Variety.

The infusion of funds from the $500 million line of credit, arranged by JPMorgan, represents a vote of confidence in MGM's prospects -- particularly given its struggles in recent years, when a crushing debt load brought production to a standstill. MGM is also expected to seek a separate loan of $265 million-$275 million for its share in the back-to-back "Hobbit" movies, which begin shooting in New Zealand in February.

The company, which made the announcement Monday, said its secured lenders are exchanging about $5 billion, including accrued interest and fees, for most of the equity in MGM. Spyglass Entertainment toppers Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum will serve as co-chairmen and CEOs.

"MGM is emerging from one of the most challenging periods of its storied history," the duo said. "We are honored and inspired at the opportunity of leading one of Hollywood's most iconic studios into its next generation of unforgettable filmmaking, global television production and distribution and aggressively pursuing, developing and exploiting new digital entertainment platforms."

The most likely candidate for immediate spending will be the 23rd James Bond movie, with Daniel Craig in his third outing as 007. Insiders believe MGM may turn to Sony for co-financing, as it did on "Casino Royale" and "Quantum of Solace," or sell off some of major foreign territories.

MGM has been working up plans for a 2012 yearlong commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the first Bond pic, 1962's "Doctor No," so the studio will probably move as quickly as possible to lock down Craig and to secure a director. Sam Mendes has long been rumored to be the leading candidate to helm.

MGM hasn't commented officially on the next Bond pic in more than a year. It announced in June 2009 that "Frost/Nixon" scribe Peter Morgan was joining with Neal Purvis and Robert Wade -- who worked on "Casino Royale" and "Quantum of Solace" -- to pen the script, but development stalled after MGM brought in turnaround specialist Stephen Cooper later that summer.

Beyond Bond and "The Hobbit," the MGM slate is murky at best. Under production chief Mary Parent, who ankled in October, MGM had ramped up production in 2008 by acquiring projects such as Robert Ludlum's "The Matarese Circle" and jump-starting the slate with reboots of MGM titles such as "RoboCop," "The Pink Panther" and "Red Dawn."

The "Red Dawn" remake is now one of three completed MGM films and is now awaiting release, along with "Cabin in the Woods" and "Zookeeper," the last of which Sony took over and will open next summer.

Barber and Birnbaum will also be under pressure from Carl Icahn, who owns about 14% of MGM's debt and is expected to keep pushing to merge the studio with Lionsgate. The billionaire agreed to support the restructuring plan after it was revised to exclude titles from the Spyglass library -- a move that reduced Barber and Birnbaum's stake in the new MGM from 5% to less than 1%.

Icahn will also have a representative on the nine-member MGM board. Board members include a trio of reps who were part of the creditors committee -- Patrick H. Daugherty of Highland Capital Management, Christopher Pucillo of Solus Alternative Asset Management and Kevin Ulrich of Anchorage Capital Group. MGM has also tapped MySpace co-president Jason O. Hirschhorn and former CBS chief financial officer Fredric G. Reynolds as directors along with Barber and Birnbaum.

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=9151&t=mi6&s=news

I've been saying Sony all along - it only makes sense, despite MGM and Paramount's new affiliation.
 

Solo

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It was never really in doubt, but Judi Dench has been officially confirmed for Bond 23, which makes me very happy. Her and Craig play off eachother so well.
 
http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/jav...ow-jockeying-studios-increasingly-frustrated/

Deadline said:
EXCLUSIVE: Deadline has just learned that Javier Bardem has been offered a starring role in the upcoming James Bond film recently set for a November 9, 2012, release. Details about the character are being kept under wraps for now. But traditionally the biggest male role opposite 007 is the villain, and Bardem played a truly villainous villain in his Oscar-winning turn in No Country For Old Men two years ago. The EON Productions offer by principals Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli to Bardem to join star Daniel Craig and director Sam Mendes was made last week, at around the same time that Bardem received his Best Actor nomination for Biutiful and another high-profile offer of a lead role, that of gunslinger Roland Deschain in the Ron Howard-directed trilogy based on Stephen King's novel series The Dark Tower. (Amidst all this career activity, Bardem and Penelope Cruz welcomed their first son into the world.) But it should be noted that Bardem was offered the high-profile villain role in Oliver Stone's Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps and turned it down.

The other Bond #23 news is this: Deadline has learned that MGM's new leadership is trying to leverage the next Bond pic, and indeed the Bond franchise, to create more cash flow for the post-bankruptcy studio. The new brass, Spyglass Entertainment co-owners Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum who are now the Co-Chairmen/CEOs of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc, are in the middle of negotiating to make an overall deal for worldwide theatrical and home entertainment distribution of not just Bond but also MGM's new product as well as its library of films. But what isn't known is that, as part of that deal, MGM wants whichever studio is chosen to distribute Bond 23 to co-finance a number of films with MGM. "That would provide MGM quick cash flow," an insider tells Deadline. "The quick cash flow allows MGM to have revenue which it hasn't had in a long time. Thereby their books look better, and therefore the possibility of getting more funds for production is increased. So expect whichever studio lands Bond to also announce it is several co-financing deals allowing MGM into other pics that are already shooting."

There's no doubt this is a shrewd move by MGM, but Deadline has learned it's not sitting well with the majors. Studio executives at Sony and Fox and Paramount and Warner Bros who are all involved in the negotiations to distribute Bond "are growing increasingly frustrated with the way that the Spyglass duo are playing one studio off another -- and enjoying it," in the words of one exec involved. One studio even described its strategy to win Bond #23 as "pleading".

Back on September 8th, Deadline first reported that Paramount and Fox would be battling for distribution of Bond #23. (Bizarrely, a recent Hollywood Reporter claimed this as exclusive news a full five months later!) Here's what Deadline's Mike Fleming wrote back then: "Warner Bros, Sony Pictures Entertainment and 20th Century Fox are the obvious outlets, but don't count out Paramount. That studio has been co-financing partners with Spyglass on Star Trek and the upcoming sequel. That has grown into a strong relationship. I'm told that Paramount is making an aggressive push to win that franchise, much the way that it captured the Marvel Entertainment deal before that enterprise was sold to Disney. Obviously, Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson hold a lot of say in where the films go, but it will be a hotly contested property... Deadline was first to report the distribution outsourcing plan by the Spyglass duo, on June 29th."

Broccoli and Wilson had been in pre-production on Bond #23 for release in 2011 but then it took almost a year for MGM's future to sort itself out what with the failed auction sale of the studio, then the pre-packaged bankruptcy getting approval, and eventually Spyglass taking over studio filmmaking. Daniel Craig will be returning as the legendary British secret agent, with Sam Mendes directing a screenplay written by Neal Purvis, Robert Wade and John Logan. That script is being kept under wraps but the story begins after Quantum Of Solace leaves off.

If true, VERY nice bit of casting.
 

DMczaf

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Deadline has learned that MGM's new leadership is trying to leverage the next Bond pic, and indeed the Bond franchise, to create more cash flow for the post-bankruptcy studio. The new brass, Spyglass Entertainment co-owners Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum who are now the Co-Chairmen/CEOs of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc, are in the middle of negotiating to make an overall deal for worldwide theatrical and home entertainment distribution of not just Bond but also MGM's new product as well as its library of films. But what isn't known is that, as part of that deal, MGM wants whichever studio is chosen to distribute Bond 23 to co-finance a number of films with MGM. "That would provide MGM quick cash flow," an insider tells Deadline. "The quick cash flow allows MGM to have revenue which it hasn't had in a long time. Thereby their books look better, and therefore the possibility of getting more funds for production is increased. So expect whichever studio lands Bond to also announce it is several co-financing deals allowing MGM into other pics that are already shooting."

There's no doubt this is a shrewd move by MGM, but Deadline has learned it's not sitting well with the majors. Top execs at Sony and Fox and Paramount and Warner Bros who are all involved in the negotiations to distribute Bond "are growing increasingly frustrated with the way that the Spyglass duo are playing one studio off another -- and enjoying it," in the words of one exec involved. One studio even described its strategy to win Bond #23 was reduced recently to "pleading".

:lol
 

Solo

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Not to mention that I doubt the script is even approaching anything that could be considered complete.

However, on the other hand, going after Bardem would fit the CR (Haggis, Craig)/QoS (Forster, Almaric)/Bond 23 (Mendes, Logan) MO of trying to attract award-winning talent.

MI6.com hasn't even reported this though, so Im inclined to think its typical Bond rumor bollocks.
 
Solo said:
Not to mention that I doubt the script is even approaching anything that could be considered complete.

However, on the other hand, going after Bardem would fit the CR (Haggis, Craig)/QoS (Forster, Almaric)/Bond 23 (Mendes, Logan) MO of trying to attract award-winning talent.

MI6.com hasn't even reported this though, so Im inclined to think its typical Bond rumor bollocks.

Deadline is usually pretty damn accurate though.
 
Still haven't seen Quantum. I think heard too many people down on the film and saying that the strike hurt the movie a bunch so I haven't gotten around to it. I'm glad they are back on course for new movies though, so I'll probably watch it soon.
 

Solo

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Scullibundo said:
Deadline is usually pretty damn accurate though.

True, but even if every word in that article is 100% legit, the key word that remains is "offered". Bardem could turn it down, like he did Wall Street 2.
 

Solo

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Earl Cazone said:
bring back miss moneypenny.

Sadly (because I think that not only were CR/QoS just fine without them, but better without them), I can see either Moneypenny or Q, or both, returning in this one.
 

Solo

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If this news is true, and if Bardem does accept, then they need to go as far in the opposite direction of his NCFOM character as possible.
 
Solo said:
Sadly (because I think that not only were CR/QoS just fine without them, but better without them), I can see either Moneypenny or Q, or both, returning in this one.

well they would be reinvented just like bond was, i guess. moneypenny could be written in a clever and refreshíng way
 

Blader

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Solo said:
Not to mention that I doubt the script is even approaching anything that could be considered complete.

However, on the other hand, going after Bardem would fit the CR (Haggis, Craig)/QoS (Forster, Almaric)/Bond 23 (Mendes, Logan) MO of trying to attract award-winning talent.

MI6.com hasn't even reported this though, so Im inclined to think its typical Bond rumor bollocks.

Why are you giving a fansite more credibility than Deadline?
 

Solo

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Earl Cazone said:
well they would be reinvented just like bond was, i guess. moneypenny could be written in a clever and refreshíng way

Bond wasn't reinvented though. He was just brought back to his character roots after the films had strayed so far.
 
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