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[Chinner]

well was moneypenny ever in the original books? has her character strayed or if she just some shit they made up for the movies?

 

[Solo]

Why are you giving a fansite more credibility than Deadline?

Because they are, and have been for years, the most reputable sire with respect to the franchise? When other places are running un-fact checked garbage about Bond being cancelled, or movie titles, or casting, they are always the first to shoot them down, and when they post something, its legit.

 

[DMczaf]

Fuck the Q hate

We need more engineers in blockbuster movies!

 

[Blader]

Because they are, and have been for years, the most reputable sire with respect to the franchise? When other places are running un-fact checked garbage about Bond being cancelled, or movie titles, or casting, they are always the first to shoot them down, and when they post something, its legit.

But...but...it's Deadline!

You're right that there's always the chance Bardem could turn the role down (and that's very possible, since he just took on a huge job with Dark Tower) but I'd be very hard-pressed to believe that Deadline is reporting something false here.

 

[Solo]

I'm not saying its fake, Blader! Shit, I dont know what time it is in England - the webmasters might all be asleep :lol

Just finding it hard to believe, but maybe thats just me trying to prevent myself from a letdown if he says no.

well was moneypenny ever in the original books? has her character strayed or if she just some shit they made up for the movies?

She was in the books, but not like in the movies. She is even more minor in the books (Bond has his own secretaries), and while its hinted that she has feelings for Bond, its not like in the movies where her sole function has been to have a checklist scene in which she flirts and pines after Bond.

 

[Ridley327]

Neither do I.

Bond antagonists are hardly ever high-profile actors.

Christopher Lee and Christopher Walken have been the only major league actors that have taken the job, right? That isn't to speak ill of guys like Sean Bean (who did eventually reach that status) or Jonathan Pryce, but those are the only two that come to mind that were quite prolific and well-known before their legendary turns at scenery-chewing.

Bardem would be a tasty choice for a villain, but I agree with Solo in that I hope they're not offering it to him just so he can be a more upscale version of Chigurh.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

If this news is true, and if Bardem does accept, then they need to go as far in the opposite direction of his NCFOM character as possible.

I see them making Bardem some really suave Spanish villain. Turn the charm on, but be mercilessly evil doing it. Evil with a smile.

 

[DMczaf]

I see them making Bardem some really suave Spanish villain. Turn the charm on, but be mercilessly evil doing it. Evil with a smile.

I think I saw Roger Moore kill 4 of those.

 

[Stinkles]

She was in the books, but not like in the movies. She is even more minor in the books (Bond has his own secretaries), and while its hinted that she has feelings for Bond, its not like in the movies where her sole function has been to have a checklist scene in which she flirts and pines after Bond.

If you don't want Moneypenny to desperately mope around after Bond like a sick puppy, change your avatar.

 

[Warm Machine]

I don't get why people think Tomorrow Never Dies is such a bad movie. To me it had classic Bond plotting and was gripping throughout. It is up there with For Your Eyes Only (which is the best of them all) and The Spy Who Loved Me, The Living Daylights, and Goldeneye.

Die Another Day is probably the lamest one along with License to Kill which is tonally broken.

I understand why people like Casino Royale so much but I feel like that is a movie in reverse. The best scene is in the beginning and the rest of the movie lowers the intensity from there on.

QoS was just a mess. The whole concept of water being the core thing to fight over was laughable. I can hardly remember a single scene in the movie and can recall most other Bond movie sequeneces.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I hope in this break the script has been given a lot of attention and they realise that it needs to be lots more Casino Royale than Quantum of Solace. QoS felt like the franchise slipping back to the shitty roots against, with moments of brilliance remaining from Casino Royale.

Man, I want to get hyped over this, but I'm not letting myself.

 

[Blader]

edit - nvm, not going to invite another debate over this. :lol

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I don't get why people think Tomorrow Never Dies is such a bad movie. To me it had classic Bond plotting and was gripping throughout. It is up there with For Your Eyes Only (which is the best of them all) and The Spy Who Loved Me, The Living Daylights, and Goldeneye.

Die Another Day is probably the lamest one along with License to Kill which is tonally broken.

I understand why people like Casino Royale so much but I feel like that is a movie in reverse. The best scene is in the beginning and the rest of the movie lowers the intensity from there on.

QoS was just a mess. The whole concept of water being the core thing to fight over was laughable. I can hardly remember a single scene in the movie and can recall most other Bond movie sequeneces.

The privatization of water in Bolivia is a real thing and its actually fucking people up... well it was, I don't know the situation right now. Though how to actually profit off of that is bizarre, how are dirt-poor farmers gonna afford it? It's been a while since I've seen the movie though.

 

[Discotheque]

I hope in this break the script has been given a lot of attention and they realise that it needs to be lots more Casino Royale than Quantum of Solace. QoS felt like the franchise slipping back to the shitty roots against, with moments of brilliance remaining from Casino Royale.

Man, I want to get hyped over this, but I'm not letting myself.

I didn't like Quantum either but it didn't feel like it was going back to the previous gadget-centric Bond at all. It was just paced badly and everything and I kinda didn't care about an extended epilogue to Casino Royale.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

It wasn't so bad in the way that every Bond prior to Casino Royale was in the "here's a million gadgets and ohhh James what a bit sausage you have" way, but it was much more action focused and not nearly as much of a character piece as Casino Royale was.

The only great scene in the entire film was Mathis' death. That was the only thing that matched the quality of Casino Royale.

 

[Guzim]

The only great scene in the entire film was Mathis' death. That was something the only thing that matched the quality of Casino Royale.

That was a great scene, but don't forget the opera scene!

 

[Discotheque]

It wasn't so bad in the way that every Bond prior to Casino Royale was in the "here's a million gadgets and ohhh James what a bit sausage you have" way, but it was much more action focused and not nearly as much of a character piece as Casino Royale was.

Bu...but is this post implying that you didn't enjoy previous Bonds? Or am I misinterpreting?

Because I think every Bond actor has had at least one good (or great) movie.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I've never enjoyed another Bond film.

Casino Royale is an utter masterpiece though. Probably one of my favourite films of all-time.

 

[BertramCooper]

bring back miss moneypenny.
and cast anna friel for it.

Though I couldn't give a rat's ass if Moneypenny comes back, Friel would be my pick as well.

Just for shits and giggles, they should replace Moneypenny with Loelia Ponsonby.

 

[Ether_Snake]

The only good aspect of Casino Royale was the love interest part. In fact my favorite part of the movie was after it was supposed to be all over

Spoiler

in Venice, where they just chill together

. One scene that should have been cut is the

Spoiler

poisoning part, wtf was that, complete waste of time and it looked forced and stupid

.

Quantum of Solace fucking sucked. Gemma Arterton was fucking hot sauce, but the movie itself fucking sucked.

I'd prefer a much more realistic and down-to-Earth approach to the series, which this is supposed to be and definitly is not. It's just boring. QoS felt like an episode of a TV series.

 

[BertramCooper]

Quantum of Solace fucking sucked. Gemma Arterton was fucking hot sauce, but the movie itself fucking sucked.

I'd prefer a much more realistic and down-to-Earth approach to the series, which this is supposed to be and definitly is not. It's just boring. QoS felt like an episode of a TV series.

Quantum of Solace did not "fucking suck."

Jesus Christ.

 

[Ether_Snake]

It really fucking sucked then.

It was awful. That terrible French character from Munich, just more evil, the stupid plot, the stupid airplane scene, the stupid ending, the stupid everything. He should have just fucked Gemma for two hours.

 

[Solo]

Quantum of Solace did not "fucking suck."

Its like people forget that Moonraker, Die Another Day, Octapussy, Diamonds Are Forever, etc. exist. Quantum of Solace is a Top 5-7 Bond movie on any given day. I think personally I have it right at #6, behind only From Russia With Love, Casino Royale, The Living Daylights, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Thunderball.

 

[Solo]

Oh snap! This actually might happen, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

Javier Bardem is a 'huge fan' of 007 - has yet to read the script

Bond 23 - 01-02-11

Oscar nominee Javier Bardem is notoriously difficult when it comes to getting him to commit to a film, but he admits he has just been offered a part that will be hard to turn down -- blogs Glenn Whipp for the LA Times.

Bardem recently met with director Sam Mendes to talk about playing the villain in the next James Bond film, temporarily titled “James Bond 23” and set for a Nov. 9, 2012, release.

The actor, who is Oscar-nominated for his lead work in the Spanish-language drama “Biutiful” and who won in 2008 for another villainous role in "No Country for Old Men," hasn’t said yes to Mendes -- yet. He wants to read the screenplay first. But, judging from the grin on his face when we spoke on Monday, he’s very open to the idea.

“I’m a huge fan of the James Bond saga,” Bardem says. “When I was little, I went watching Mr. Connery doing James Bond with my father. Who in the world would think I’d be in one of those movies?”

The deal breaker for him, if there is one, will be, as always, if the material doesn't hold up. But Bardem says he was intrigued by what Mendes told him at their meeting.

“They’re changing the whole thing, the whole dynamic,” Bardem says. “I’d be playing Bond’s nemesis, yes, but it’s not that obvious. Everything is more nuanced. It’s very intriguing.”

And the escapism of the Bond franchise would seem a solid fit for an actor newly determined to leave his work behind when he goes home at night.

“But who knows? Maybe I will go back home saying, ‘I have the world in my hands,’” Bardem laughs. “Evil can be very seductive.”

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=9238&t=mi6&s=news

 

[Ridley327]

That sounds really exciting; Mendes must have something cool in mind to get Bardem excited like that.

 

[Solo]

Basically sounds like if Bardem likes the script he will sign on the dotted line. Would make the first physically imposing villain of the Craig era.

 

[brandonh83]

A Craig/Bardem fight scene would have the same effect on my asshole as this:

 

[exarkun]

I love the Chili Garlic Cholula AND Bardem. Win-Win.

 

[SimleuqiR]

Daniel vs Javier?
I'm not gay but that gave me wood.

 

[FOOTE]

Oh man, this could be really awesome.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Basically sounds like if Bardem likes the script he will sign on the dotted line. Would make the first physically imposing villain of the Craig era.

It also means that if Bardem doesn't sign on we can expect that its another rush-job like QoS.

 

[Penguin]

It also means that if Bardem doesn't sign on we can expect that its another rush-job like QoS.

Why would you assume that?
Or you mean since he will decline due to the quality of the script?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Why would you assume that?
Or you mean since he will decline due to the quality of the script?

Exactly. If he's psyched and just needs to read the script to make sure its not a piece of shit to sign on, him not signing on wouldn't be a great sign.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I really hope that Bardem gets it. I'm not a fan of No Country for Old Men, but he's fantastic in it.

 

[Epcott]

I don't get why people think Tomorrow Never Dies is such a bad movie. To me it had classic Bond plotting and was gripping throughout. It is up there with For Your Eyes Only (which is the best of them all) and The Spy Who Loved Me, The Living Daylights, and Goldeneye.

Die Another Day is probably the lamest one along with License to Kill which is tonally broken.

I understand why people like Casino Royale so much but I feel like that is a movie in reverse. The best scene is in the beginning and the rest of the movie lowers the intensity from there on.

QoS was just a mess. The whole concept of water being the core thing to fight over was laughable. I can hardly remember a single scene in the movie and can recall most other Bond movie sequeneces.

A media baron attempts to manipulate the news, in order to manipulate politicians... I don't know, that concept seems just as bad. However, Michelle Yeoh was a pretty good female Bond.

I'm curious to see where this new movie goes. I also hope Mr. White (Jesper Christensen) appears again, he just vanished in the middle of QoS (though I recall reading somewhere he didn't care much for the movie).

 

[BertramCooper]

Bardem would indeed be awesome.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

 

[smarties00]

Some more casting talk..

Sam Mendes wants to add Ralph Fiennes to the rapidly expanding list of talent attached to the next James Bond film, reports the Daily Mail.

Columnist Baz Bamigboye claims Fiennes is being courted for a part of "extreme complexity", far from stereotypical action-movie characterisation. Earlier this week the LA Times revealed that Mendes would like Javier Bardem to play the villain – Fiennes's potential part is said to be something altogether different.

"It's the first of a new generation of Bond films, and the ideas Mendes has push the film into darker territory where the characters are modern, mature and challenging," a source connected to the production told Bamigboye, adding: "The part is one of extreme complexity and only an actor of great ability and dexterity can take it on – and Ralph's name is top of our list."Talks with Fiennes are said to be at the discussion stage. Bardem, meanwhile, told the LA Times that he would like to join the cast for what will be the 23rd Bond film.

"I'm a huge fan of the James Bond saga," said Bardem. "When I was little, I went watching Mr Connery doing James Bond with my father. Who in the world would think I'd be in one of those movies?"

Bardem, Oscar-nominated once again last week for his performance in Biutiful, said he is waiting to see a script before committing. "They're changing the whole dynamic," he said. "I'd be playing Bond's nemesis, yes, but it's not that obvious. Everything is more nuanced. It's very intriguing."

Fiennes and Mendes previously worked together on a Royal Shakespeare Company production of Troilus and Cressida more than two decades ago. The Mail reports that Simon Russell Beale, who also appeared in the production, could play a role in Bond 23.

The latest Bond film looked doubtful last year when MGM Studios filed for bankruptcy protection. The company has since been restructured and producers confirmed last month that the as yet untitled project will go into production later this year for a 9 November 2012 release. Daniel Craig will reprise his role as 007, with Judi Dench returning for a seventh time as spymaster M.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/feb/04/ralph-fiennes-bond-23

 

[WrikaWrek]

Starting to get hyped because of the cast...

 

[The Elite]

Some more casting talk..



http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/feb/04/ralph-fiennes-bond-23

I'm a bit nervous. I never like when "dark" or "darker" is used to describe the Bond franchises. License to Kill or Casino Royale is about as dark as I like Bond.

 

[exarkun]

Wtf is going on with this movie? It starting to sound like a Bond with everything on it instead of the more traditional Bond with an aston martin and martini.

 

[dmshaposv]

IF they can rope in Bardem, my interest will definitely pique!

 

[Government-man]

Damn, Daniel Craig, Javier Bardem and Ralph Fiennes. Bond has never been more ambitious. I definitely like. If only they could add Rachel Weisz like what was rumoured some time ago the cast couldn't be more promising.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Watch them spend half the production budget on the cast.

 

[Rich!]

I'm a bit nervous. I never like when "dark" or "darker" is used to describe the Bond franchises. License to Kill or Casino Royale is about as dark as I like Bond.

Licence to Kill is about as dark as you can get, though:

- Franz Sanchez instructing Dario (Benicio Del Toro) to give his cheating mistress her lover's heart. He does so, literally - with a knife.

- Felix Leiter's wife being brutally raped and murdered on their wedding day, before he's then fed to sharks.

- Bond going medeival on Sanchez' crew - he mercilessly throws a corrupt FBI agent into the same shark pit his friend was thrown into, and watches emotionessly as he's ripped apart.

- Anthony Starke being framed by Bond, who is then thrown into a decompression chamber by Sanchez, with his head then subsequently exploding in graphic detail.

- Dario is pulled into a mincer and grinded to hell.

And lots of other examples, with a thoroughly dangerous feel overriding the film throughout. Either way, one of my favourite Bond films - really does take the best parts of Bond's psyche from the novels, and expands on his vengeance.

 

[Discotheque]

Its like people forget that Moonraker, Die Another Day, Octapussy, Diamonds Are Forever, etc. exist. Quantum of Solace is a Top 5-7 Bond movie on any given day. I think personally I have it right at #6, behind only From Russia With Love, Casino Royale, The Living Daylights, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Thunderball.

I like your list but I'd put Goldeneye and even Tomorrow Never Dies way up above Quantum.

It's not a matter of forgetting the shitty Bond films exist, it's more a matter of disappointment coming off of Casino Royale. Oh and also Quantum was just bland too and why didn't Bond bone the hotter chick in the film? (if anybody thinks Gemma is more fine than Olga Kurylenko then they should get shot in the nuts)

 

[Government-man]

I like your list but I'd put Goldeneye and even Tomorrow Never Dies way up above Quantum.

It's not a matter of forgetting the shitty Bond films exist, it's more a matter of disappointment coming off of Casino Royale. Oh and also Quantum was just bland too and why didn't Bond bone the hotter chick in the film? (if anybody thinks Gemma is more fine than Olga Kurylenko then they should get shot in the nuts)

I guess I should be shot in the nuts then

 

[Rich!]

Just search for Olga Kurylenko's naked photos (lots and lots of them). That'll fix your obviously incorrect opinion.

 

[Discotheque]

Meh she's really annoying. Her voice will forever be 'annoying narrator voice' because of Clash of the Titans AND Prince of Persia.

Plus Olga Kurylenko in the desert in Quantum....damn. Sofine.

 

[badcrumble]

Its like people forget that Moonraker, Die Another Day, Octapussy, Diamonds Are Forever, etc. exist. Quantum of Solace is a Top 5-7 Bond movie on any given day. I think personally I have it right at #6, behind only From Russia With Love, Casino Royale, The Living Daylights, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Thunderball.

dap so hard

I think Bardem could do a great job, but a part of me still wants to see Ciaran Hinds as a Bond villain, partly because he's really fucking good, but mostly because I want to see the entire cast of Munich eventually appear in Bond films.

 

[Government-man]

Meh she's really annoying. Her voice will forever be 'annoying narrator voice' because of Clash of the Titans AND Prince of Persia.

Plus Olga Kurylenko in the desert in Quantum....damn. Sofine.

I don't care about her voice man. Dem curves are hard to beat