BattleMonkey
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brotkasten said:
Such an odd statement.
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James Cameron sets 'Avatar' 2 & 3 as next films
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Such an odd statement.
mckmas8808
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GhaleonEB said:
So you are completely okay with Cameron doing 2 films at once? Not worried about the Matrix 2 and 3 possiblity?
brandonh83
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mckmas8808 said:
why worry about that? totally different filmmakers here.
Puddles said:
They plugged into each other's ponytails to have sex. They plug their ponytails into animals.
Not to mention that the thing that held back human technological development was sharing and preserving knowledge, something that the Na'vi have no problem doing since they can all upload what they know to the tree and download information. They should be able to advance technologically way faster than humans since anytime something is learned, it can be preserved and shared with all almost instantly.
SCULLIBUNDO
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mckmas8808 said:
This is just silly. He's already explained that they'll be self-contained films for the most part, already citing movies like the Matrix sequels as examples of unsatisfying films because they require each other. Also, nobody has a better track record for making a sequel than Cameron.
Anyway, didn't see this news till right now, but was expecting it for ages.
Guess I won't be needing this
:http://i55.tinypic.com/24pjcx2.jpg
Ceres said:
For a movie whose storylines and characters have 1985 set as their anchor, timeliness might have a bigger impact on it than The Matrix, which was either set in a fake world or a apocalyptic future. Bunch of stuff happened in the 80's between BTT1 and 2, from Chernobyl, Black Monday, the Berlin Wall came down, Exxon Valdez, and such.
You might have to take into account how people viewed the world at the time. The Matrix sequel's themes helped it to (mostly) relate to the post 9/11 world (Matrix 1 was in 1999, Matrix 2 was in 2003), but did BTT2 and 3 work with the characters having the mindset of 1985 in 1989?
I don't know, maybe. Probably getting too deep for us here.
JB1981 said:
The third post nails it perfectly. I thought Avatar was relatively open and shut. What is this universe he's talking about?
We've heard Cameron talk about the oceans of Pandora playing a big part in the next film but in what sense?
Just more human forces having big set piece battles with the Na'Vi but this time on water? Not interested. I know some people loved the first film but I found it a little forgettable and hollow.
In saying that, I wouldn't bet against Cameron but I'm really not feeling two Avatar sequels with a fully '100% CGI, 100% Na'vi Jake'.
But as always, we shall see.
Discotheque
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You know, years ago I would be pissed off that Cameron was skipping Battle Angel for these sequels.
Now I feel he's so far gone that I don't care anymore. The movie would inevitably be shit too. Hell, even the action in Avatar was forgettable as fuck. And this is coming from one of the best action directors out there.
Now that the tech has already wowed me with the mo-cap and 3D, there's nothing left in this franchise. Only thing that can get me to be mildly excited for it would be Arnold.
Now I feel he's so far gone that I don't care anymore. The movie would inevitably be shit too. Hell, even the action in Avatar was forgettable as fuck. And this is coming from one of the best action directors out there.
Now that the tech has already wowed me with the mo-cap and 3D, there's nothing left in this franchise. Only thing that can get me to be mildly excited for it would be Arnold.
mckmas8808
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Scullibundo said:This is just silly. He's already explained that they'll be self-contained films for the most part, already citing movies like the Matrix sequels as examples of unsatisfying films because they require each other. Also, nobody has a better track record for making a sequel than Cameron.
Anyway, didn't see this news till right now, but was expecting it for ages.
Guess I won't be needing this
http://i55.tinypic.com/24pjcx2.jpg
That's good to know. I hope Cameron sticks to this plan. In Cameron we trust.
Fallout-NL
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I can't fucking believe this. I just can't understand it. How can anyone really feel the 'pocahontas/dances with wolves in space' approach was that good? The tribal soundtrack was terrible and the chanting and hand holding at the end gag worthy. How many times have we seen that story? And with execution so bog standard and uninspired?
SCULLIBUNDO
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Discotheque said:
Oh please, there hasn't been another action movie since Casino Royale that had anything that could measure up to the action in Avatar.
Discotheque
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Fuck that noise. Action in Avatar was boring as fuck, even with all the potential it had since Cameron threw everything in it.
Don't put Casino Royale in the same sentence again.
Don't put Casino Royale in the same sentence again.
Fallout-NL said:
I agree with you. I am not a fan of this film and I swear that I cannot fathom how this film become the biggest film in HISTORY.
But people did love it. I think there were alot of factors that contributed to it's success and that certainly without 3D it would never have done the business it did.
I honestly can't see people going after a sequel they did with the original but, as ever we shall see.
Like I said, some people just loved this film.
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Scullibundo said:
Meh, it was about as awful as all the flashing lights in the Star Wars prequels.
The only thing I liked was that marine bailing out of the air ship with his exo skeleton.
PhoenixDark
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If he couldn't write a decent script in 10 years, why believe he can write two decent ones in 5 years :lol
Discotheque
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Fallout-NL said:
Easily the best scene in the film for sure. Probably the only moment in the entire film where I was like 'whoa'.
Everything else was just :lol, especially when all the animals came to their aid and that lame ass chick was like "Ehwaa has answered our praaaayerrrs"
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Discotheque said:
:lol, Christ, so incredibly cheesy.
Man, I was rooting for the grey guy to wipe them all out.
I think it could be a much better film this time around, there's no need to play it safe this time.
They could do a cool Godfather Part 2 like twin story, Weaver and Lang's characters in the past, Worthington and Saldana's in the 'current' time, that'd could be fun.
I'll be going to see it no matter what though.
They could do a cool Godfather Part 2 like twin story, Weaver and Lang's characters in the past, Worthington and Saldana's in the 'current' time, that'd could be fun.
I'll be going to see it no matter what though.
Either way I would love to be in a meeting about the budget of these sequels.
"So Mr Cameron, Avatar was the most expensive film ever made. Any chance you could take it down a notch for these sequels seeing as you'll be reusing alot of assets?"
*James Cameron's laugh echoes around the Fox lot*
"So Mr Cameron, Avatar was the most expensive film ever made. Any chance you could take it down a notch for these sequels seeing as you'll be reusing alot of assets?"
*James Cameron's laugh echoes around the Fox lot*
SCULLIBUNDO
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Man I wish I had a gif of the shot of the bomber ship going down with Jake flying overhead. Fucking epic shot.
Scullibundo said:This is just silly. He's already explained that they'll be self-contained films for the most part, already citing movies like the Matrix sequels as examples of unsatisfying films because they require each other. Also, nobody has a better track record for making a sequel than Cameron.
Anyway, didn't see this news till right now, but was expecting it for ages.
Guess I won't be needing this
http://i55.tinypic.com/24pjcx2.jpg
:lol :lol :lol You actually made that
cloud_sleep said:
Cameron played it safe because Avatar was such a gamble. I hope he goes all out for the sequels like he did with Aliens and Terminator 2. He already has the audience from the first movie and full financial backing from Fox, so there's no reason to hold back. The sequels could be _great_.
No way man... BTTF 2 at least is a masterpiece and a total tribute to the first film. The story in 2 is just so interesting and so integral to the BTTF universe. 2015 man, 2015... So much classic awesomeness in that film. Also, the showdown with Marty and Biff is so much more epic than anything in BTTF.GitarooMan said:
You crazy in the head. Anyways, most real BTTF fans truly dig the sequels, or at least the second movie.
Discotheque
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Yeah I guess you could argue that he went for the shit story just to bring in a larger audience.
From what I heard, the original script had much more interesting moments sprinkled throughout. A better director would have kept those, but it would sacrifice the Box Office take probably.
Anyways, Aliens also suffers from Cameronism. The characters aside from Ripley and I guess Hudson if you like the lulz, are fucking terrible. That spanish girl....fuuuuck. Dude just needs to give writing duties to somebody else for a change.
It also brings the sequel down quite a few notches in comparison to Alien for me, a fantastic scifi/horror film. Cameron was my favorite director when I was like 12. Nolan when I was 15.
Now I appreciate both but I realize there's much better. Still retroactively, Cameron's older films are still entertaining to watch. His newer ones though post-Titanic.....:/
From what I heard, the original script had much more interesting moments sprinkled throughout. A better director would have kept those, but it would sacrifice the Box Office take probably.
Anyways, Aliens also suffers from Cameronism. The characters aside from Ripley and I guess Hudson if you like the lulz, are fucking terrible. That spanish girl....fuuuuck. Dude just needs to give writing duties to somebody else for a change.
It also brings the sequel down quite a few notches in comparison to Alien for me, a fantastic scifi/horror film. Cameron was my favorite director when I was like 12. Nolan when I was 15.
Now I appreciate both but I realize there's much better. Still retroactively, Cameron's older films are still entertaining to watch. His newer ones though post-Titanic.....:/
Hydrogen Bluebird
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Avatar is so overrated
Well I agree getting to that point takes far longer than it should. It basically gets good when they wake up after hooking up I think.Xater said:
I never got bored seeing it at the cinema, but at home I only really watched it once or twice and yeah, it's pretty poorly paced as a whole. But the battle is awesome I think.
EDIT: Avatar was not the most expensive film ever, at all. And with inflation not really even close.
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