bitbydeath
Gold Member
Quite the opposite actually.
Everyone wants him, DC included.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...and-major-studio-movies-disney-firing-1133161
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James Gunn’s How to Catch A Predator Party
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Quite the opposite actually.
Everyone wants him, DC included.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...and-major-studio-movies-disney-firing-1133161
King of Foxes
Banned
That was my first thought when I heard about the tweets, then i read them and saw how many there were. I'm not saying he is a pedo like some are but the sheer volume of tweets and actual wording made me little uncomfortable to just hand wave it away, then this shit.
He just seems to like pedophilia a little too much for me to be like "yeah its no big deal".
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brap
Banned
Please bring this show back.
Oh shit I didn't know they made a new one, and it's full of cringe. The hug at the 2:30 mark is just...
8.7 million views with 1.1 million subscribers.
Damn.
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Texas Pride
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
AI isnt anime so we can call her shit
PedroPanache
Member
These people; they don't deserve punishment. THEY DESERVE GUNISHMENT!
Cauliflower of Love
Banned
This reminds me of the weird parties that Corey Feldman throws.
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Nintendo Switch
Banned
A friend of mine threw a To catch a predator party too. Over a 100 people from our college came. Its not an uncommon thing OP.
Its a joke. Same as his tweets. Twitter is full of bad jokes about pedophilia. So is family guy, american dad and south park.
All the fake outrage about this stuff is the real joke.
Its a joke. Same as his tweets. Twitter is full of bad jokes about pedophilia. So is family guy, american dad and south park.
All the fake outrage about this stuff is the real joke.
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ickythingz
Banned
I love watching the conditioning kick in as people like you instantly jump in and defend pedophiles. You don't even question the possibility. You just somehow know you are right. It is amazing from a science/psychology perspective. Out of curiosity, what do you feel you personally gain by defending a pedophile? Are you just that desperate to see a comic book movie that you feel it is OK that this adult abuses kids? I actually don't know why an adult would jump to the defense of a notoriously corrupt culture (Hollywood in this case) and just blindly agree with the MSM (who fall into the same corrupt category) on an issue like this. What do you have to gain by taking a side that could care less about you as a person?
Punished Miku
Member
Looks like a fun party and his costume is great.
It's a fucking joke. Back in the 90s people told jokes. It was a great time to be alive.
It's a fucking joke. Back in the 90s people told jokes. It was a great time to be alive.
Dude Abides
Banned
Dr. Guru of Peru: theres no basis to say Gunn is a pedophile.
Icky things: Why are you defending that pedophile?!?!!?!
Amazing.
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PonyStation4
Member
Please explain what the joke is here
Punished Miku
Member
Just seems like your standard costume party. People just do it to as an excuse to dress up and get wasted.
VAL0R
Banned
Sexually molesting little girls is apparently funny to these people. Also note the man mock-choking the woman dressed as a little girl. Hi-larious.
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Kittehkraken
Member
bitbydeath
Gold Member
You ever heard about Salem before?
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
He's not a pedophile, khx.
You also don't care about pedophillia, or else you wouldn't have voted for a guy who wants to fuck his own daughter.
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Dacon
Banned
You can't really say the guy is a pedophile definitively like that. There's not much to support that declaration past supposition.
However you can't really blame people when they raise eyebrows at the recurring theme of pedophilia in this guy's humor. It's a taboo subject that makes a lot of people uncomfortable, and this guy seems to revel in that theme. When it keeps coming up and coming up, it's going to make some people wonder whether the whole joke thing is a masquerade for the guys actual proclivities.
However you can't really blame people when they raise eyebrows at the recurring theme of pedophilia in this guy's humor. It's a taboo subject that makes a lot of people uncomfortable, and this guy seems to revel in that theme. When it keeps coming up and coming up, it's going to make some people wonder whether the whole joke thing is a masquerade for the guys actual proclivities.
Teletraan1
Banned
I am all for comedy with a dark side but I have never found anything he has tweeted regarding pedophilia to be an actual joke. It is either wink wink pedo or outright saying in the first person that he was going to do some pedo shit as a reaction to some other tweet. Since the industry he works in has a really bad history with pedos it just catches a more critical eye.
I don't think he is a pedo, he most likely isn't but constantly bringing up pedophilia is very creepy.
I don't think he is a pedo, he most likely isn't but constantly bringing up pedophilia is very creepy.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
brap
Banned
Is a rabbi close enough?
NOOOOOOOO HE WROTE CHILDRENS MOOBIE I LIKE GLUMPF IS THE PEDO FOR WANTING TO FUCK HIS OF AGE DAUGHTER HELP HELP I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT BLUMPFF AHHHHHHH EVERYBODY I DONT LIKE VOTED FOR HIM
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Keep in mind this was 10 years ago, back then we also had a bunch of dead baby jokes.
It didn't mean people wanted to actually kill babies.
Dacon
Banned
Um yeah I know? Not entirely sure why you quoted me to make that statement. I don't agree with accusing the man of being a pedophile or his firing.
However the things you say and do will color people's opinions of you and they will make judgement of your character based off those actions. Not really anything that can be done about that. Our actions and words have consequences in society and no amount of laws will protect you from those.
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Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Why are you making excuses for a pedo?
888
Member
This right here. People say it is a joke but they are these weird random statements. I’m all for jokes but it’s a little eyebrow raising when it is so much about this subject.
Didn’t he also have contact with someone that got convicted for it?
Also I love how people showing some concern of very weird concerning tweets and now a party are being called fake. Yup, we shouldnt think about it. Nothing here to see. Move on guys. Everything is a joke!
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I’m gonna just say that while I can understand throwing a tacky or “in bad taste” party as an extension of his edgy humor back in the day...I don’t imagine anyone could say that this is a good look for Gunn.
I personally choose to believe that Gunn was just being some edgy edgelord living in edgeville at the edge of town with a dog named edgy...but your “shocked and appalled” standard American isn’t going to look at this and think “yeah, that’s hilarious and I fully understand the humor in dressing up like a child abuser while having the guests dress up like little kids.”
I personally get the attempt at humor in this...but no...this isn’t a good look at all.
I choose to believe there’s nothing else to this other than bad humor...probably because I like GOTG and I kinda want another Gunn-led one.
Let’s hope reality matches my hopes.
I personally choose to believe that Gunn was just being some edgy edgelord living in edgeville at the edge of town with a dog named edgy...but your “shocked and appalled” standard American isn’t going to look at this and think “yeah, that’s hilarious and I fully understand the humor in dressing up like a child abuser while having the guests dress up like little kids.”
I personally get the attempt at humor in this...but no...this isn’t a good look at all.
I choose to believe there’s nothing else to this other than bad humor...probably because I like GOTG and I kinda want another Gunn-led one.
Let’s hope reality matches my hopes.
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Teletraan1
Banned
Hollywood doesn't have a dead baby problem, at least I hope it doesn't. It kind of changes the perception a bit for me. You are right though, jokes about a topic do not make you an advocate or the thing you are joking about.
Punished Miku
Member
I remember going to a pimps and hos party once. I've never once in my life thought about getting a prostitute, or being a pimp. None of the people there thought of it. People just literally wanted to dress up and make up excuses to get everyone else to do it. Usually it's the girls pushing for parties like this.
I can't imagine how common it is when you're surrounded by nothing but actors. Like, I picture what Troma film actors would do in their spare time, and this is pretty much exactly the kind of party I'd expect.
Is it a bad look? Sure. Can Disney fire the guy? Sure. I think anyone who knew his career was a little surprised that he was even hired in the first place. My main objection though is that people take obvious jokes and just remove all context and skewer people. It's like some religious right prudishness. This was a whole party of people dressing up. It was probably a fun party. I don't see anyone in the pictures that looks underage at all. That would be a huge red flag. These are adults being stupid and silly.
I can't imagine how common it is when you're surrounded by nothing but actors. Like, I picture what Troma film actors would do in their spare time, and this is pretty much exactly the kind of party I'd expect.
Is it a bad look? Sure. Can Disney fire the guy? Sure. I think anyone who knew his career was a little surprised that he was even hired in the first place. My main objection though is that people take obvious jokes and just remove all context and skewer people. It's like some religious right prudishness. This was a whole party of people dressing up. It was probably a fun party. I don't see anyone in the pictures that looks underage at all. That would be a huge red flag. These are adults being stupid and silly.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Pimps and hoes are consenting adults, children are not, end of analogy.
What doesn't sit right with me and society, is that every time some "red flags" come up about pedophilia, there are so many defenders to brush it off, call them jokes, yet when it comes to race or rape "red flags", people on that like flies on shit.
More often than not children become the victims and none of this shit gets discovered until it's already too late.
There are countless examples where people will project things, and be defended like crazy for some reason, and then later on they get caught in the act and a child does become a victim; then everyone looks around and goes, "that is terrible, I thought they were joking."
I remember years ago it was either article or something like on Dateline which they were talking about this very subject on how people seem so quick to hand wave signs when it comes to this until it's too late.
No I'm not saying he is one, but don't be obtuse and pretend like repeated verbal behavior and themes parties, especially in Hollywood doesn't raise an eyebrow.
I've yet to see anyone here say they went to a pedophilia/hebophelia themed parties, but they keep drawing from other themed parties which are consenting adult stylized themes that are not even related, lol.
If his supposed jokes were racial, I doubt this subject would be ongoing. Unless you were an Asian female of course, then he would be hired by the New York Times.
What doesn't sit right with me and society, is that every time some "red flags" come up about pedophilia, there are so many defenders to brush it off, call them jokes, yet when it comes to race or rape "red flags", people on that like flies on shit.
More often than not children become the victims and none of this shit gets discovered until it's already too late.
There are countless examples where people will project things, and be defended like crazy for some reason, and then later on they get caught in the act and a child does become a victim; then everyone looks around and goes, "that is terrible, I thought they were joking."
I remember years ago it was either article or something like on Dateline which they were talking about this very subject on how people seem so quick to hand wave signs when it comes to this until it's too late.
No I'm not saying he is one, but don't be obtuse and pretend like repeated verbal behavior and themes parties, especially in Hollywood doesn't raise an eyebrow.
I've yet to see anyone here say they went to a pedophilia/hebophelia themed parties, but they keep drawing from other themed parties which are consenting adult stylized themes that are not even related, lol.
If his supposed jokes were racial, I doubt this subject would be ongoing. Unless you were an Asian female of course, then he would be hired by the New York Times.
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TrainedRage
Banned
Where did Trump say, "I want to fuck my daughter"? Or are you blowing a word wildly out of context to prove your sad point?
Airola
Member
I find it funny that not too long ago the shock would've been him dressing up as a priest and laughing at the expense of priests.
Now that's not really seen as a joke there but now we look at those pictures as proof of him being a pedophile.
How did that even happen?
What should we count as being constant here?
How many jokes has he made? How many of those jokes have had pedophilia as their subject? What percentage of his tweets dealt with that subject? Can we really say this was something that he was constantly bringing up?
Now that's not really seen as a joke there but now we look at those pictures as proof of him being a pedophile.
How did that even happen?
What should we count as being constant here?
How many jokes has he made? How many of those jokes have had pedophilia as their subject? What percentage of his tweets dealt with that subject? Can we really say this was something that he was constantly bringing up?
Dacon
Banned
I doubt there would even be a conversation about it, and rightly so. A racial joke here and there doesn't bother me, but when someone's entire catalog of jokes winds up being of a racial nature I'd very much start to have my suspicions.
Teletraan1
Banned
Bringing up pedophillia that many times while working in an industry that lends out child actors for sex is enough to be at the very least creepy. I am not even calling him a pedo. I will even concede using the word constantly because it was the wrong word. I don't want to have to figure out his ppm.
888
Member
I think most everyone, myself included isn’t saying that these pics prove anything. But frankly where there is smoke...
https://medium.com/@ali/photos-james-gunn-pedo-party-b364d29abc43
“Gunn had hundreds of pedophilistic jokes on his blog and Twitter account, infamously forcing him to delete more than 10,000 tweets. In addition, he housed grotesque commentary about child molestation. He seems to have a network of child-obsessed deviants like Lloyd Kaufman and convicted child porn consumer and molestator, Huddleston. This isn’t exactly a surprise in Hollywood argues comedian Benjamin Owen.”
In the article it makes an interesting observation. Who are these “Jokes” for? I can get the joke excuse if it was a couple and then it was dropped. But it wasn’t. He deleted 10k tweets. For one I can’t believe someone has the time to post 10k times, then make a shit ton of pedo comments. They are barely jokes, more edgy drive by comments.
I also have to raise an eyebrow at the people not atleast considering the possibility. I was raised around many issues on the subject, anyone can be the monster hiding right in the open.
“But it was just a couple jokes!”
Meanwhile...James Gunn deleted 10k tweets and has been in pedo themed parties and has had connections with other convicted pedos.
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Airola
Member
Ok, "child-obsessed deviants like Lloyd Kaufman..."
Oh for fucks sake...
At first I thought this was your opinion, but that part of your text was something the article writer had written which makes this even crazier. I then went on and looked his earlier writings about the subject and there he has found a tweet by Kaufman where he jokes about masturbating to Justin Bieber with fucking TOXIC AVENGER, and he took that tweet LITERALLY. Kaufman mentioned "Toxie" (which means The Toxic Avenger) in his tweet and the writer has written "Kaufman admits masturbating to Bieber with his friend." Kaufman also writing "I wore a lobster Bieber" doesn't ring any bells that this might be just foul mouthed joking?
This is absolutely insane. Kaufman has made his living with telling as crude and disgusting jokes as possible. He has made movies relying on everything insensitive for nearly the past 40 years. And now suddenly a god damn tweet gets him dragged into this scandal both as being part of proof against Gunn and now being accused of being a "child-obsessed deviant."
What comes to the "To Catch a Predator party", if anyone is looking for smoke from that they better also stand firm in throwing the accusations towards the other people in the picture and anyone who took part in that party too. If you are ready to see smoke in this you damn well should apply it to the others as well. So, how about to women in the picture? And the other guy? Should they also get to be accused of pedophilia? Or are only those who have also previously told jokes about the subject the ones who might be actual pedos?
I'm very much aware there are child molesters in Hollywood. There are child molesters in churches. There are child molesters in governments. They are everywhere. Who knows if he's one too. But you can't make assumptions based on jokes and lewd writings. I don't know how much of the Pizzagate stuff and the "Lolita Express" stuff with Epstein and Clinton and all is real. There is tons of smoke everywhere. But still, these are people with history of being just foul mouthed jerks. Their history sure beats that article writer's what comes to credibility. Not knowing Toxie means Toxic Avenger and it's a character of a movie series but still making accusations like that is journalism at worst.
Kaufman should sue that article writer.
This is the maximum level of "guilty by association" that's going on right now.
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PkunkFury
Member
Gun deleted 10k tweets; from what I can tell, only about 20 of them were pedo related jokes. If there were more, that graphic with them all clumped together would be much larger. Not to say that makes them okay, but it's weird seeing people pretend like he was obsessed with pedo jokes. The dude tweeted constantly, the fact that he had 10k tweets that were worthy of being deleted should tell you that. His shtick was shock humor and the subjects he covered varied considerably. After all, he worked for Troma films
As to who the "jokes" were for and why they seem more like "edgy drive by comments", here's an article that breaks down Gunn's jokes (assuming you are actually interested):
https://medium.com/@joninarebekka/t...d-the-pedophile-in-his-childhood-f7ba23855a82
Many of them are retweets of a friend's comment, with words changed to make it sound like they are a pedo. Yes, this is not funny, but it also explains why tweets like "I like it when little boys touch me in my silly place" are meant to be jokes.
The article also touches on what is known about his history with pedophilia, and the fact that he has been one of the more outspoken voices against actual Hollywood predators
The article doesn't absolve him of making the jokes, but if anyone is legitimately considering that Gunn is an actual pedo, hopefully it clears thing up
Of course, it remains understandable if Disney does not want to be associated with him. They are a kids company. People were surprised they were willing to hire Gunn to begin with. Gunn was dumb for presenting himself this way assuming he planned to graduate from shock film in the future
This exactly. 50 (assuming some were missed) out of 10k is hardly constant. The image going around with most of his pedo jokes contains like 12 tweets spread out over 4 years. You guys can bag on him for making the jokes all you like, but pretending he was obsessed with pederasty or something is a bit doofy
Two of the most prominent cartoons at the time Gunn made these tweets were South Park and Family Guy. South Park has an episode about NAMBLA, an episode where a teacher banging a 5 year old is "Niiiice", an episode where a 4th grader shows off a photograph of himself blowing another 4th grader, and so much more I'm just not remembering off the top of my head. Family Guy has an entire character dedicated to child molestation. If I went through years worth of episodes of these shows, picked out the pedo parts and edited them together to make a hit piece, would the posters in this thread be convinced South Park and Family Guy are pedo propaganda made by criminals who are obsessed with the subject? After all, Seth MacFarlane and Matt & Trey (another Troma films connection) are also part of Hollywood. Do you all think South Park and Family Guy should be on the air?
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Relativ9
Member
I mean it's an off-putting photo and kind of gives you the creeps...but I'm pretty sure that's the point. Doesn't sound like a party I'd like going to (sounds forced and I'm generally not into costumes), but I have friends who probably wouldn't think too badly about something like this and they certainly aren't pedos.
I mean, is this shit any worse than what Jared Leto has done while method acting? Yet he keeps getting work. Also ask any professional comedian or people who've been close to professional comedians, some of them are pretty fucking weird and fucked up (emotionally) that's where the comedy comes from. On Rogan recently (can't look it up right now) they talked about a guy that used to whip his dick out and pee on the audience, but in his time that was accepted and he was celebrated for being hilarious (presumably for other reasons).
I mean, is this shit any worse than what Jared Leto has done while method acting? Yet he keeps getting work. Also ask any professional comedian or people who've been close to professional comedians, some of them are pretty fucking weird and fucked up (emotionally) that's where the comedy comes from. On Rogan recently (can't look it up right now) they talked about a guy that used to whip his dick out and pee on the audience, but in his time that was accepted and he was celebrated for being hilarious (presumably for other reasons).
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KOMANI
KOMANI
no different from having deadpools. A lot more people were open about their gallow’s humor. Times have changed. It’s not as if there were actually underage kids. Another thing is that to catch a predator was watched by everyone back then. I think the twitter stuff is a bigger deal. For the record, i’m not bothered by it, and not cause he directed a marvel movie. It’s the guy’s sense of humor.
ruvikx
Banned
The problem for James Gunn is he's living in a highly sensitive social media environment in which every single misstep is subject to a psychoanalysis by the 'mob' (& media), often for political agenda reasons. Chris Pratt himself was 'forced' to apologize last year when he was quoted saying this: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...americans-comment_us_58fcf3cce4b00fa7de152734
Reaction:
Translation: "I'm going to pretend to be offended, so I'll insert race into the conversation & make him apologize just to make myself seem important!"
Ergo when the absolute slightest-total-nothing elicits such a reaction (Chris Pratt's blue collar remark), kaboom, Gunn's own paedophilia stuff was a nuclear bomb.
Reaction:
Translation: "I'm going to pretend to be offended, so I'll insert race into the conversation & make him apologize just to make myself seem important!"
Ergo when the absolute slightest-total-nothing elicits such a reaction (Chris Pratt's blue collar remark), kaboom, Gunn's own paedophilia stuff was a nuclear bomb.
VAL0R
Banned
infinitys_7th
Member
I really don't care about his jokes or anything. I just think what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
If the left wants to go after people who say shit on Twitter, they don't really have a right to complain when it happens to them.
JimmyJones
Banned
The pedo defence force has arrived.
Brizzady
Banned
Did he just say those things this year? Did he ever apologize for the things he said? Did he show contrition? Maybe the two things you're describing aren't actually the same fucking thing.