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James Gunn on Superman: "the character will not be played by Henry Cavill"
- Thread starter ManaByte
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Shame they can't reboot Superman with Henry Cavill playing a new Superman, because he was a perfect Supes.
YuLY
Member
Totally agree. Brosnan could have done at least one more movie, easily. Craig just looks old, hes genes, he looks older than Cruise and Pitt.
VulcanRaven
Member
Its really stupid if Cavill's Superman doesn't appear again after Black Adam. The movie was just released. It doesn't make DC look good at all if they set something up that isn't going to happen.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
So wtf is happening with the end of Black Adam? And the flash? Aquaman 2? Are they all gonna get the chop after release?
What a God damn mess.
What a God damn mess.
Toons
Member
They've done that like 10 times in the last 8 years lol
Sonik
Member
He's been dropping not-so-subtle hints that he's dissatisfied with the way Netflix' idiot writers are handling the show for a long time now.
Sonik
Member
They can find new faces, I think it'll be great if they find new people for all the roles. Gadot was great because she was fresh and interesting (I know she's been in FF series, but in very minor roles).
newtypepilot
Member
first witcher and now super man. Dude can't catch a break.
Alx
Member
I just finished binge-watching Smallville recently, and I found it more entertaining than anything from DCEU. Full-grown Superman is a bit boring and will cerainly spend most time on-screen as CGI, while focusing on young Clark Kent may open for more interesting stories. (that being said, after watching the TV show I've had my dose of Superboy stories for a while)
0neAnd0nly
Member
The Batman was a nice shift into detective mode, in a time line we haven’t seen explored in the live actions much before…
Cavill is made to play Superman and obviously LOVES it…
And both are/ may be out?
Eehhhh.
I tend not to like Gun’s direction, and this isn’t making me confident at all.
Cavill is made to play Superman and obviously LOVES it…
And both are/ may be out?
Eehhhh.
I tend not to like Gun’s direction, and this isn’t making me confident at all.
Peggies
Gold Member
I'm glad he left. It's such a shitty show. I was so looking forward to it but I expected it to be about Geralt hunting monsters not Geralt has some cameos in the Yennefer-Siri-universe.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
i thought the rock was going to bring back henry as supes
he is a powerfull hollywood figure after all
he is a powerfull hollywood figure after all
anthony2690
Banned
OH FFS !!!!!!
FUCK OFF !!!
Next Superman will be a fucking twig in red undies saving cats out of trees.
FUCK OFF !!!
VulcanRaven
Member
I'm glad Gunn wasn't hired earlier. He probably would have cancelled The Flash too if it wasn't nearly finished.
Banjo64
cumsessed
I don’t like DC movies, and I don’t like Superman. But the studio told him to announce his return and then back tracked? Why does everything WB/DC touch literally turn to dog shit. Horrible cunts. As to Cavill, it’s shit I’m sure but he’s an A lister and will have companies queuing up to give him mega roles.
bitbydeath
Member
It was rumoured that The Flash would end the DCEU with his time powers but Aquaman 2 is coming after so I dunno.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
All WB had to do was give Zack complete creative freedom back then and not forcing him to blast thought to JL within two movies. Management wanted to catch up to Marvel - hurt everything that was done.
Now they have this rushed mess in their hands that is not salvageable and hired a guy to mimick the Marvel style of SH movies.
Not realizing that that ship has sailed and these kinds of movies are just not that hot anymore.
You just know what kind of quality content is to be expected if a single guy hastily writes a couple of movies within a couple of months.
Now they have this rushed mess in their hands that is not salvageable and hired a guy to mimick the Marvel style of SH movies.
Not realizing that that ship has sailed and these kinds of movies are just not that hot anymore.
You just know what kind of quality content is to be expected if a single guy hastily writes a couple of movies within a couple of months.
VulcanRaven
Member
It feels that they give Gunn too much power. Its a bit embarrasing to backtrack like this.
Alcibiades
Member
I think this could backfire on WB. Gunn is an amazing director I'm glad they were giving him a chance despite the poor box office of The Suicide Squad. But I don't like this decision.
He made a movie and TV show set in the DCEU "Snyder" world and now he's going to throw all that away? The only thing I can think of is they feel a need to do this on the cheap and can't afford to bring back the current DCEU cast. You can still have one-off projects like Joker for creative freedom without nuking the last 10 years of movies.
Why not a young Superman movie that's a one-off, or even a prequel to Man of Steel? Was hoping to see Gunn help improve the world that existed, like he did with Suicide Squad.
I can imagine a scenario where Batman/Superman movies make a billion or get close but everything else stays in the 400-700 million range in which case, why even start over and throw the previous talent under the bus?
He made a movie and TV show set in the DCEU "Snyder" world and now he's going to throw all that away? The only thing I can think of is they feel a need to do this on the cheap and can't afford to bring back the current DCEU cast. You can still have one-off projects like Joker for creative freedom without nuking the last 10 years of movies.
Why not a young Superman movie that's a one-off, or even a prequel to Man of Steel? Was hoping to see Gunn help improve the world that existed, like he did with Suicide Squad.
I can imagine a scenario where Batman/Superman movies make a billion or get close but everything else stays in the 400-700 million range in which case, why even start over and throw the previous talent under the bus?
FunkMiller
Member
The shitty DCEU - started badly by Snyder, and carried on by more idiots - is finally fucking dead. Couldn’t be happier.
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Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Oh great, a superman in school having to deal with bullies.
Alcibiades
Member
I don't think Zack Snyder's style would have led to Marvel-level success, but they never really gave him a chance. The rush to get to a Justice League movie hurt both Batman v Superman and Justice League. Also, the fact that they released the inferior cut of Batman v Superman in theaters really hurt reception to the franchise early on, which spiraled out of control with the Whedon JL movie.
Also I agree that comic book movies MIGHT be past their heyday. It's not just fatigue, but the fact that there are so many Marvel properties that audiences barely have time to keep up with those, much less an additional DC universe and now Sony live action Venomverse (or whatever its called). I go see about 50-100 movies a year but not everyone is going to do that. Fair or not, Marvel got to the box office level they did first and I think people are often going to choose that universe over DC most of the time. Most casuals dont have time for another 10 year interconnected buildup.
They should have continued with the DCEU, minimized the interconnectedness like Wonder Woman, TSS, and Aquaman, while still throwing tiny references to the world and leaving the door open for a JL team up a few years down.
Also, it's stupid to have two Superman movies in development (neither with Cavill lol). Is that sustainable? I bet the Gunn one happens and the other gets cancelled.
FunkMiller
Member
He's doing for Superman what Reeves did for Batman. Which is absolutely the right thing to do at this point. The DCEU was a shit show. It needed to end. A fresh Superman will do better box office than Henry's one, dragged down by all that garbage.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
How many times can these DC assholes reboot their shit???
Thirty7ven
Banned
Henry Cavill is a poor Superman but I can’t imagine James Gunn writing a good one.
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
Alcibiades
Member
Aquaman, released with Whedon's JL fresh in memory (which was the panned by critics and fans), did a billion dollars. Now imagine a good Superman movie with Henry Cavill. Would have done even better.
I'm sure Gunn's Superman will be good movie and have good box office, but there is no indication that a good Henry Cavill Superman movie wouldn't have been a hit. Very few people are going to miss out on a movie with good word of mouth just because the character was in a bad film previously.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Oh no…. Not yet another teen focused hero drama story…
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I do not get that either… alienating…
ManaByte
Member
James Gunn Writing New ‘Superman’ Film; Henry Cavill Will Not Return, but Eyed to Play Different DC Character
New DC Studios co-head James Gunn announced he will write a new "Superman" film, though Henry Cavill will not return as the beloved hero.
variety.com
FunkMiller
Member
You’d have an argument, were it not for the fact that Black Adam, starring The Rock, and set in the DCEU, with a Widely publicised Cavill Superman cameo… just fucking flopped at the box office.
FunkMiller
Member
James Gunn Writing New ‘Superman’ Film; Henry Cavill Will Not Return, but Eyed to Play Different DC Character
New DC Studios co-head James Gunn announced he will write a new "Superman" film, though Henry Cavill will not return as the beloved hero.
Sounds like a Year 2 Superman.
How very familiar…
Nankatsu
Gold Member
They're trying to pull with Superman what marvel did with Spiderman when they casted Tommy boy.
Poor Cavill, most likely some part of the reason he left The Witcher was also because of this role and he instantly gets axed.
Hope he grabs the James Bond role at least, because coming back to The Witcher is super far fetched now (the series is doomed now anyway, considering he left the role) .
Poor Cavill, most likely some part of the reason he left The Witcher was also because of this role and he instantly gets axed.
Hope he grabs the James Bond role at least, because coming back to The Witcher is super far fetched now (the series is doomed now anyway, considering he left the role) .
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ManaByte
Member
Moore and Connery were able to stick to the every two years schedule. Craig couldn't because he kept shattering his knees and other injuries leading to delays. Prior to Craig, Bond was always released every two years. That's why EON is looking for someone younger so they can have a Bond who lasts a decade and not take 15 years to get five movies out.
FunkMiller
Member
Weirdly, once again, the Batman template will probably define the Bond template. This seems to keep happening. The same applies to Superman. Young, cheaper actors, in a movie with smaller budgets.
Umbasaborne
Banned
On one hand i get that they want a fresh slate, i imagine that gadot, batfleck, zachary levi, and momoa are also out. But it was not cool of them to jerk cavil around like that.
ManaByte
Member
Mamoa is goin to be Lobo.