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Japanese Magazine Talks about Possible War with South Korea

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TOKYO —
South Korea’s president Lee Myung Bak has been like the proverbial terrier, nipping at Japan’s heels throughout the month of August. First over the Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ strong objections, he paid a visit to Takeshima (aka Dokdo in Korean) on Aug 8, and then upon his return, demanded that the emperor apologize for the wartime sex slaves.

Feelings are now running strong among the man on the street. In a survey of subscribers to the Nihon Keizai Shimbun’s electronic edition, for example, 90% of respondents stated they found Lee’s actions “inexcusable” and 30% said Japan should consider such economic sanctions as punitive tariffs.

“I don’t think President Lee’s incendiary actions were done merely to generate popularity at home,” opines author Yasushi Nishimuta. “He may be provoking Japan as a means of building rapport with the North Koreans. In any event, the postwar system that has been in place in Japan all these years is finally starting to break down.”

Should the territorial feud build up to a crescendo, the possibility of armed conflict cannot be ruled out. Asahi Geino (Aug 30) “opens the Pandora’s box” as it puts it, with the simulation of a military clash over Takeshima/Dokdo between the Korean armed forces and Japan’s Self Defense Forces.

South Korea has three times more personnel in its armed forces than Japan does, which is why some might consider Japan militarily incapable of wresting Takeshima back from Korea. But military affairs specialist Motoaki Kamiura thinks Japan could to it “quickly” using a quick action force aboard helicopters.

Mitsuhiro Sera, another military affairs specialist, agrees, saying Japan could snatch back possession of the islands in a matter of hours.

But Kenjiro Kato believes such an operation would require a complete mobilization of the armed forces.

“The first priority would be to deny the enemy deploying reinforcements,” says Kato. “Japan’s Maritime SDF is far superior in quality to the Korean navy; it would be able to take the initiative.”

This would require the blockading Korea’s Ulleungdo island, to the west of Takeshima, with its 10,000 inhabitants.

Here is where Japan’s submarine fleet would show a decided advantage, as their more advanced subs can remain submerged about three times longer than the smaller Korean vessels.

Sera also points out that Japan has six Kongo-class Aegis missile destroyers to Korea’s three, and the Japanese version boasts considerably more advanced technology.

In the air, the ROK has already deployed 20 of its F15K next-generation fighters, which may be technically superior to that of Japan’s F15J.

“But Japanese pilots are more skilled, and as Japan already has early warning aircraft, Japan has the ability to respond quickly to threats from the air,” says Sera.

“In 2006, an ROK citizens group found that during a simulated clash between Japan and Korea, the latter’s navy would be defeated,” a reporter at a nationally circulated newspaper relates. “Articles in the Korean vernacular media also raise the possibility of Korea being defeated by Japan.”

Of course, wars, once begun, are not easily ended, which begs the question as to how Japan would manage in a protracted conflict.

“Japan would have to concentrate its military on the coast of the Sea of Japan,” says Sera. “Korea would have to shift the bulk of its forces to the country’s south, away from the DMZ. War is in the interest of neither side. The reality is that the JSDF would be restricted by its rules of engagement, and could not fight the same kind of war as the Korean military.”

The aforementioned author Nishimuta notes that when Japan and the ROK began to negotiate diplomatic relations after the war, the issue of Takeshima was put on the back burner and the two sides instead concluded a “secret agreement,” of which no written copies remain, in which they agreed to disagree.

Korea, asserts Asahi Geino, continues to disregard the secret agreement, setting up a heliport and lighthouse, and from 2006 sending tourists to the islands. President Lee not only went there to announce the use of the two islands as a base for oceanographic research but also inscribed his name on a rock. The magazine concludes that the best way to coerce Korea into de-escalating the tension is through vigorous countermeasures that fall short of armed conflict.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/magazine-flirts-with-war-scenario-over-takeshima

Looks like America's dream of pan-Asian alliance against rising China is falling apart like a Chinese motorcycle.

Of course, if the war does happen between two countries, China will most likely claim whatever is leftover from this war.
 
Japan news media is blowing up over Takeshima... over this shitty fucking island with no significant resources.

Us is definitely the stabilizing force in the region. Here is something I thought was funny that I posted in another related thread:

But, this is nothing new. Korean people have a weird relationship with America, but I think the sentiment about Japan is still pretty clear. Check out this picture:

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Top picture:
(Citizen of Seoul) If America were to attack North Korea, (S. Korea) would attack Japan.

Bottom Picture:
Q:"What would happen if America were to attack North Korea without the consent of South Korean Government?"
A: 47.6% - We would save North Korea.
31.2% - We would assist the US.
21.2% - We would attack Japan.

Why Japan? i dunno.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
This article was written by a teenager, right?
 
War cannot and will not happen, not in any situation that is even remotely foreseeable. This is truther conspiracy level nonsense; it's laughably irresponsible to give such elements any sort of attention.
 
So Japan makes Sony and Nintendo products, while Korea supplies us with girls generation and super juniours.

WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR?
 
Billion dollars of worth untapped natural resources under water surrounding that rock.

Even if I were to accept that there were a billion dollars worth of natural resources, which I feel is probably even a conservative appraisal, I wouldn't call that significant, given the cost of a potential military engagement and dissolution of diplomatic ties.

No, I feel that Takeshima isn't about dollars and cents to Korean people... I feel it is symbolic; an enduring legacy of the Japanese colonial period.
 

Kabouter

Member
War is never going to happen. The (economic) interests in peace on both sides are far too great, and the international community would never let it come to it anyway.

There is also no way a billion dollars would convince a nation to start a war, ridiculously small amount to start a conflict over with another nation.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Manpower, I would give the advantage to Korea. Only because they have conscription.

JSDF active duty and reserve personnel is 305,635.

ROKAF is 650,000 active duty personnel. 3.2 million reserve. (I bet they count every male under a certain age as reserve)
 
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Ladies and gentleman, Asahi Geinou (Asahi Entertainment)

Yet, I feel most newspapers are actively trying to paint the Koreans as war-obsessed unreasonable hotheads.


If it was Hollywood, China would get dragged into this and we'd each back either Korea or Japan.

I mean Hollywood Hulk Hogan, lol.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
l3rRZ.jpg


Ladies and gentleman, Asahi Geinou (Asahi Entertainment)

Yet, I feel most newspapers are actively trying to paint the Koreans as war-obsessed unreasonable hotheads.

Sharp teeth.

Like rotated bicuspids I bet.
 
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Ladies and gentleman, Asahi Geinou (Asahi Entertainment)

Yet, I feel most newspapers are actively trying to paint the Koreans as war-obsessed unreasonable hotheads.




I mean Hollywood Hulk Hogan, lol.

The Photoshop in that picture is outrageous. That girl is actually pretty cute but they've turned her into a misshapen monster.
 

Acheron

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Manpower, I would give the advantage to Korea. Only because they have conscription.

JSDF active duty and reserve personnel is 305,635.

ROKAF is 650,000 active duty personnel. 3.2 million reserve. (I bet they count every male under a certain age as reserve)

Yeah but that 650k cries when a girl band shows up.
 

AAequal

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l3rRZ.jpg


Ladies and gentleman, Asahi Geinou (Asahi Entertainment)

Yet, I feel most newspapers are actively trying to paint the Koreans as war-obsessed unreasonable hotheads.
You shouldn't judge book by it's cover at least that's what I have been told my whole life. Maybe I make exception this time around.
 
Because the US has a long history of staying neutral in conflicts.
They stayed away from conflict where both of her allied nations are fighting.

Example such as when Greece and Turkey both went to armed conflict over Cyprus, US stayed clearly out of the way.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Yeah but that 650k cries when a girl band shows up.

Yeah they do. They hold hands too.

And the ROK Special Warfare Command:

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Steelrain

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You shouldn't judge book by it's cover at least that's what I have been told my whole life. Maybe I make exception this time around.

You absolutely should here lol. The mag is trash.

It's like having a thread about what Teen People thinks about a war in Iran.
 
You absolutely should here lol. The mag is trash.

It's like having a thread about what Teen People thinks about a war in Iran.

Tiger Beat Ahmadinejad! He kinda looks like he could be in the Monkees.

There has been a push toward building up a larger military presence in the Sea of Japan in recent years by Japanese politicians. Honestly, when you have a country saberrattling right in your backyard, it's not a bad idea.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
1 no homo
2 no homo
3 no homo
4 no homo

lol.

It gets better.

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To be fair.

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That lion is a Special Forces patch.
 
ROK would wipe the floor with Japan.

I don't know, I think the country not allowed to have an army by international law might have the edge over the country where every man is forced to be in the military... (lol)

You know what's funny? There are some Emperor-Tier Weeaboos out there that would try to argue it, I'd wager.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I don't know, I think the country not allowed to have an army by international law might have the edge over the country where every man is forced to be in the military... (lol)

You know what's funny? There are some Emperor-Tier Weeaboos out there that would try to argue it, I'd wager.

Uhm...bushido and samurai spirit, right?

Or..why are Koreans so violent?
 

Akkad

Banned
I don't know, I think the country not allowed to have an army by international law might have the edge over the country where every man is forced to be in the military... (lol)

You know what's funny? There are some Emperor-Tier Weeaboos out there that would try to argue it, I'd wager.

Whatever dude, Nihon is too kawaii to lose a war to those baka Koreans.
 

Acheron

Banned
I don't know, I think the country not allowed to have an army by international law might have the edge over the country where every man is forced to be in the military... (lol)

You know what's funny? There are some Emperor-Tier Weeaboos out there that would try to argue it, I'd wager.

ROK army is designed for fighting a land war against North Korea, not a maritime war with Japan. Japan has a superior navy and larger airforce so in this (admittedly unrealistic) conflict the sheer paper size of the Korean armed forces isn't meaningful.
 

AAequal

Banned
You absolutely should here lol. The mag is trash.

It's like having a thread about what Teen People thinks about a war in Iran.
Yeah, I know, Japan is full of these trash magazines. These days they seem to have more hardcore right wingers as guest "columnists".
 
Yeah, I know, Japan is full of these trash magazines. These days they seem to have lot more having hardcore right wingers as guest "columnists".

These magazines exist so that people will stay in the front and read them for security purposes in 24hr convenience stores. Sounds like total bullshit, I know, but that's what we were taught back in college.

Some of those magazines were so obscene, with full cartoon characters just covered in semen, and right there facing the front counter. I felt embarrassed walking by them, :jnc
 
There is also no way a billion dollars would convince a nation to start a war, ridiculously small amount to start a conflict over with another nation.
There is always a way. So many countries around the world went to war over something that is lesser trivial compared to what both SK and Japan are bitching about at the moment.
 
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