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Jeremy Corbyn won't quit even if Labour loses the election

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cartoon_soldier

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-sound-of-leamington-spa?utm_term=.qvKRA9VlB#.spx408k2W

I think this is pretty big, deserves it's own thread. People might have been hoping that once Tories basically whoop everyone else in June, Labour would get new leadership. Corbyn doesn't plan to go, or at least plan to go silently.

Jeremy Corbyn is enjoying his first general election as Labour leader, and he wants to make something very clear: he intends to remain in the job, even if he isn't victorious in next month's vote.

"I was elected leader of this party and I’ll stay leader of this party," Corbyn told BuzzFeed News, taking a few minutes out from campaigning in the Warwickshire town of Leamington Spa.

No matter what happens on 8 June, he said he would be "carrying on". And he insisted that the constant criticism and poor poll ratings were not getting to him. "Monsieur Zen is fine," he said.
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JonathanEx

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This doesn't surprise me.

Whether he does is another matter (I think he may try and stay on), but he'd struggle to win a third leadership contest through a no confidence challenge. Surely. Surely. SURELY.
 
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Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
I'm not surprised. It's been clear for a long time that this man cares more about his "movement" than actually getting Labour back into government. Those foolish MPs who squeezed him onto the leadership ballot back in 2015 must want to commit suicide. He's killing the party.
 
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Visualante2

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If the PLP put as much effort into finding a quality leader as they have attacking Corbyn they'd have replaced him by now.
 
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pigeon

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To be honest, this was already obvious. If Corbyn didn't quit when everybody IN HIS CABINET shunned him, he's obviously immune to the social pressure to conform to expectations that British people rely on to run literally all of their political systems.

Better to just get this out on the table now so that Labour politicians can start planning their splitter party.

Time to ditch the rosette, fellows.
 
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killer_clank

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Normally I would say of course he's going to say this and he'd resign after losing but with Corbyn you can't assume that at all.
If he didn't go after a loss he'll be challenged again most certainly though.
 
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Deleted member 231381

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JonathanEx said:
This doesn't surprise me.

Whether he does is another matter (I think he may try and stay on), but he'd struggle to win a third leadership contest through a no confidence challenge. Surely. Surely. SURELY.
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Labour Party doesn't have VoNCs. No mention of them in the constitution. You have to launch a leadership challenge to replace the current leader.
 
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Yen

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IIRC, he wants the threshold for number of MPs required for a leadership nomination to be lowered (to 5 maybe) to ensure there will always be a socialist on the leadership ballot. Think the decision on this would be next year.

I'm not sure how much better Labour would be polling if any of the 4 challengers to Corbyn had won, regardless of how poor Corbyn has been.
 
Jezbollah

Jezbollah

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It plays with what many have been saying that he's focused on campaigning in areas with high levels of Labour party members with a view of consolidating his support there, rather than the potential (and general) Labour voters nationwide..........
 
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JonathanEx

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Crab said:
Labour Party doesn't have VoNCs. No mention of them in the constitution. You have to launch a leadership challenge to replace the current leader.
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Oh sorry yes - am I correct that last time they did the informal vote, he didn't take the hint, and then they launched the challenge.

Anyoo - that challenge is what I'm predicting to be the way he has to be ousted.

sugarhigh4242 said:
Or just worked with Corbyn and moved forward on a unified basis...
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It's a two way thing though, his team have to you know, want to work with anyone else, tell people things, listen, etc etc.
 
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Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
sugarhigh4242 said:
The despicable Blairites and their friends in the liberal press act like Corbyn isn't there at the will of the public.
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The will of Labour members you mean. The public at large despise Jeremy Corbyn as do the PLP.
 
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Deleted member 231381

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Yen said:
IIRC, he wants the threshold for number of MPs required for a leadership nomination to be lowered (to 5 maybe) to ensure there will always be a socialist on the leadership ballot. Think the decision on this would be next year.
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From 15% to 5%. It would be voted on in September. Won't go through, though. Won't make it through the conference vote.
 
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samn

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Even if he is gone the moronic membership will just elect McDonnell or Abbott.

Pushing mediocre Milliband-like policies while doing their best to appear radical and unpalatable to the electorate. Just utter turds
 
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Busty

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The man has much jam to make and ultimately it is that which will pull him from the Labour party after they are obliterated in the General Election.
 
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WhatNXt

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I'm not convinced he said this meaning that he wouldn't stand down on June 9. When you're in the swing of campaigning for an election, you don't entertain questions about what you will do when you supposedly or inevitably lose. You wear a brave face, remain calm, and try and continue your campaign, hoping somebody actually asks about the shit Tory government and holding it to account.
 
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Principate

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sugarhigh4242 said:
If it takes a generation to purge labour of neoliberals, maybe that's not so short sighted.
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And if you if you rarely if ever get back into power and become the new lib dems? Your not making any logical sense. Red Ed wasn't a neoliberal. He got far closer to power than this fool is going to but sure purge those neo-liberals.
 
Meus Renaissance

Meus Renaissance

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If people here can claim they will abstain from voting to remove a Tory government on the basis of Jeremy Corbyn, then I imagine they have little incentive to vote for Labour in the first place and are in fact quite content with the Conservatives' platform.

Corbyn's own future has been settled on more than one occasion, and done so by the public - many whom joined the Party simply to keep him as leader. If you're no longer interested in Labour's policies, then you know where the door is.
 
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pigeon

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sugarhigh4242 said:
If it takes a generation to purge labour of neoliberals, maybe that's not so short sighted.
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Frankly, both sides should want this by now.

New Labour should just leave Labour and form a new party that can actually win elections. Then everybody will be happy.

The problem is mostly just brainstorming names.
 
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sugarhigh4242

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Meus Renaissance said:
If people here can claim they will abstain from voting to remove a Tory government on the basis of Jeremy Corbyn, then I imagine they have little incentive to vote for Labour in the first place and are in fact quite content with the Conservatives' platform.

Corbyn's own future has been settled on more than one occasion, and done so by the public - many whom joined the Party simply to keep him as leader. If you're no longer interested in Labour's policies, then you know where the door is.
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bang!

Funny how all the usual liberal-GAF smears against the left apply in reverse here.
 
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Meadows

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Meus Renaissance said:
If people here can claim they will abstain from voting to remove a Tory government on the basis of Jeremy Corbyn, then I imagine they have little incentive to vote for Labour in the first place and are in fact quite content with the Conservatives' platform.

Corbyn's own future has been settled on more than one occasion, and done so by the public - many whom joined the Party simply to keep him as leader. If you're no longer interested in Labour's policies, then you know where the door is.
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Meus on board Jeremy's train to L-ville
 
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Jackpot

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ehhhhhh, it doesn't really mean anything. No one would undercut their own position by promising to resign, see Cameron and Brexit.
 
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sugarhigh4242

Banned
pigeon said:
Frankly, both sides should want this by now.

New Labour should just leave Labour and form a new party that can actually win elections. Then everybody will be happy.

The problem is mostly just brainstorming names.
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Is there any substantive reason the answer isn't "Liberal Democrats"?
 
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Dougald

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Jackpot said:
ehhhhhh, it doesn't really mean anything. No one would undercut their own position by promising to resign, see Cameron and Brexit.
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In principle I agree with you, but Cameron at least wanted a remain result, whereas I have become convinced Corbyn doesn't really care about winning elections.
 
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liquidtmd

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The rest of the Labour Party be like "We are no longer the Labour Party...behold, The No Jeremys"

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*Desperately seek to recruit an alternative before Corbyn tries to claim they can admit one
 
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UpDownLeftRight

Banned
Since I don't bother with politics often, genuinely curious why is our country still going to vote Tory? Yeah Corbyns a useless fuck, but the Tories are fucking dangerous. Literally nothing good can ever come from voting them in. So since I don't bother with politics much, why's this about to happen?

Is the hate boner for Corbyn actually that strong or does the country have a bit of a pain fetish it's yet to admit to?

I should point out I've no interest in seeing Corbyn ever succeed at anything, Just genuinely curious why people are about to actually vote in Cruella De'Ville as if it's a better option?
 
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