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Jim Sterling Goes Independent
- Thread starter Spineker
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Holmes is scheduled for an AMA on Reddit today, you can get all your does of awkwardly straight-manning there.
You pay X amount of dollars to someone you like the work of per month so that they can continue churning out that work.
IaN_GAF
Member
Oooh, liking this already. Give me Shitty Industry Practices!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Think of it like ongoing Kickstarter, sort of. Basically its a way to directly continuously fund content creators. For example I chip in $9 for my favorite Lets Play team (well and now this)
I really doubt it'll be a big industry shift. The only people that are going to be able to do it are video focused people where their brand is the star. Random IGN writer X is going to be staying put.
So, yes, it won't support many people, and that's not really a bad thing.
Barkley's Justice
Member
I love Jim. I just wish he would sound-proof his video stage!
Super interested in the podcast!
Super interested in the podcast!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Here's his piece on the recent Shadows of Mordor debacle:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vid...-of-Mordors-Promotion-Deals-with-Plaid-Social
Basically, you pay a small, monthly fee for shit you like to see.
Say, $3 a month to see Jim Sterling continue to be Jim Sterling.
Which I just did!
Essentially, Patreon is a direct feed between content creator and audience. You like content, you pay an installment fee decided by the content creator: A daily fee, weekly fee, monthly fee, or a "per video, per article, per whatever" fee.
Content creator produces content, audience pays cash dollars for the content they enjoy.
Good on ya, Sterling.
DeviantBoi
Member
His Jimquisition videos are awesome... his other "funny" ones, not so much.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Thank God for Jim.
I'll definitely be in for supporting Jim in his quest to shine a light on shitty practices, now completely unfiltered and not associated with any other sites. I think this is a great idea.
I'll definitely be in for supporting Jim in his quest to shine a light on shitty practices, now completely unfiltered and not associated with any other sites. I think this is a great idea.
As a head reviewer yeah, but he's been making The Escapist for them for years.
Did any pressure from The Escapist over a review contribute to this, Jim?
UncleSporky
Member
What about it makes you uncomfortable?
If the writer does it a shit job or turns out to be misogynistic or racist or otherwise an asshole, people will stop supporting them. If they prove themselves worthy of an audience then they'll get paid.
Are you worried that everyone is going to be doing this or something? What does it matter?
doctorblurg
Banned
I wish him all the best Ill keep watching his stuff no matter where he goes <3
There are already hundreds upon hundreds of hours of Jim Sterling podcast. Admittedly it's mostly hitting on Jonathan Holmes and talking about Willem Dafoe sticking food up his butt but it's there if you dare listen to it. It'll be interesting to see if he can actually keep on topic in this one.
Being paid for the promise of work, as opposed to being paid for work that has been done. Then again, funding will dry up if that work doesn't live up to expectations, as you say.
Ser Pounce
Member
Thank God for Jim. There's no one I trust more to articulately speak on the issues facing the industry. Plus he's entertaining as hell! Good luck Jim!
My favorite Jim video is still the one he did for the Forest. This one cracked me the fuck up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNqsLR4L7m0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNqsLR4L7m0
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I will support Jim, till the very end.
Basically, you pay a small, monthly fee for shit you like to see.
Say, $3 a month to see Jim Sterling continue to be Jim Sterling.
Which I just did!
Essentially, Patreon is a direct feed between content creator and audience. You like content, you pay an installment fee decided by the content creator: A daily fee, weekly fee, monthly fee, or a "per video, per article, per whatever" fee.
Content creator produces content, audience pays cash dollars for the content they enjoy.
Good on ya, Sterling.
Done and done he also get 3 bucks from me
what's hypocritical about this is that this is one of the thing Jim rails on about in regards to early access on steam...
what a tosspot
Well the way Patreon is set up the money is taken a month after you pledge it and can be cancelled any time. So you could view it as commissioning that month's work.
Honestly I think if Jonathon ended up on a gaming podcast where Jim actually talked about games he'd implode.
While a DVD collection wouldn't go amiss, otherwise I don't really care as a fan.
Jim's had his hooks in me since back in the Destructoid days (meteorscrap says hello, Jim!), so if I have to watch his old content on old content providers, fine.
Though... I still say he was way too fucking harsh on CDF: Ghost Ship in Squirty Plays. At least the creators of that tried to establish tension. A decade or so back, and it'd have been a top contender for a horror game in the state it's in now.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Same here. Some money will be coming your way soon Jim.
kitschbeam
Member
Best of luck, jim fucking sterling son!
Neuromancer
Member
I'll throw some money your way, Jim F. Sterlingson. I used to call you the village idiot of games journalism and I feel badly about that. You've come a long way since then.
Can you get Jonathon Holmes on your podcast or would that cramp your style too much? You and he had a good rapport together.
Can you get Jonathon Holmes on your podcast or would that cramp your style too much? You and he had a good rapport together.
I'm glad to send a little money Jim's way. I've never really done the Patreon thing before and I'm pretty blown away at how much money some people make off of it without even providing content.
Still best of luck to Jim, I hope he makes this work. We need more voices that aren't afraid of backlash from the publishers that essentially pay their bills.
Still best of luck to Jim, I hope he makes this work. We need more voices that aren't afraid of backlash from the publishers that essentially pay their bills.
I would pay seventy-bajillion dollars if the ol' Destructoid crew could get back together for an independent podcast, even once.
Or, like, five bucks.
Whatever.
Jim Sterling
Member
A) I "rail on" broken games that are misrepresented before sale being sold on Early Access. I have, in fact, highly praised several good Early Access games, such as Nekro.
B) The Jimquisition is not exactly an unproven product. I've produced over 200 episodes of the show to date and have been one of the hardest workers in the industry. It's not as if you can't see how much work I put in.
C) I don't need a C, because A and B were awesome.
To everyone else: Thank you for the support. GAF's been really good to me for the past couple years, and the positivity here is helping curb my panic attack.
What's hypocritical? When you're paying for an early access game you don't know what you're getting into until the game is finished. With this, there's already plenty of Jimquisition episodes for people to check out, so if you like it and want to see more then you can fund it, and if they don't live up to your liking then you can just cancel.
adamsappel
Member
Good for him.
Jim, take some of that Patreon money and buy some new gloves. Driving gloves, maybe with holes cut in the knuckles, even. There's a look you're obviously going for, and it's not "It's kind of cold in my office."
Jim, take some of that Patreon money and buy some new gloves. Driving gloves, maybe with holes cut in the knuckles, even. There's a look you're obviously going for, and it's not "It's kind of cold in my office."
Pocky4Th3Win
Member
He wants 6K a month? Fuck that. That's far more then I feel most journalist get paid.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Den publishers put the squeeze on em I tells ya
Presumably lots of journalists are getting benefits as well, though, and he'll be self-employed from what I can tell. So this seems like a pretty fair wage considering.
lol, Zero Punctuation was carrying the Escapist LONG before Jim sterling became somewhat popular. I don't know what to think of this move. We'll see how it goes. I kind of liked him at the Escapist.
Gaz Pwnage
Member
I love his show but he needs $6000 a MONTH to "Securely" run it full time? 72k a year? Why?
gigantor21
Member
Jim Sterling said:
Jim confirmed to be a sentient psychotic creation of Tony Stark. Somehow I'm not surprised...
Also, glad to see him working 100% independently.