Sure, but ignoring him in regards to embargo's isnt really going to change that. Seems like they are "letting him know what's up", from the outside looking in. Kind of like a play ball or else.
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Jim Sterlings PS4 Top Ten(MS PR wont talk to him?)
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Sure, but ignoring him in regards to embargo's isnt really going to change that. Seems like they are "letting him know what's up", from the outside looking in. Kind of like a play ball or else.
He is going to review the games anyway. How is ignoring him going to help?
I think that they are just too busy with the more mainstream sites/journalists right now.
WickedCobra03
Member
What do you mean it's not 2 years ago anymore?
I doubt they are so busy communicating to IGN/Gameinformer that they couldnt contact a pretty well known media person. I dont think I, personally, would buy that excuse at all if I was Jim.
Garrett 2U
Member
Not sure why people are saying Microsoft is blacklisting reviewers.
Sounds like his site already has the reviews written and ready to go, as well as access to the embargo information.
Sounds like his site already has the reviews written and ready to go, as well as access to the embargo information.
It will be interesting to see if Jim's approach changes with his new job. I hope not, but it would be hard to be a reviews editor if none of your guys could get advance copies for those day one review hits.
read the op.
I'm assuming he was saying that MW3 was good and the newer ones are not?
Garrett 2U
Member
MW3 was one of the worst in the series, in my opinion
But that's a completely different topic haha
Prince Vultan
Banned
Fuck... 3.5? He didn't seriously give it that, did he?
He punished origins just for beeing more of the same.
But the 7th consecutive cod gets 9,5 from him.
I dont know what to say.
oh god, can we please not parse numerical reviews scores in an attempt to discredit someone.
howzabout he liked that one better?
Garrett 2U
Member
Thanks, I did. That's where I read all his tweets.
He's already reviewed the games, and knows how to find the embargo info.
Not sure how he's being blacklisted. If he was blacklisted, MS wouldn't have let him have access to review copies of the games.
I'm not, sorry. I quickly edited my post to indicate 1) it was a person anecdote and 2) it has nothing to do with this topic.
MW3 was one of the worst in the series, in my opinion
But that's a completely different topic haha
Meh, I'm not a fan of the series, but I have friends I play them with, and thought MW3 was pretty good as a casual FPS player.
because a negative jim sterling review means a lot less later after ign and polgyon have crowned it a masterpiece than it does coming at the same time when everyone is checking out the reception and looking at xbone metacritics.
i might be getting this completely wrong though. i'll admit. that's just what came to mind when i hear that they're messing with embargoes for a divisive reviewer. they want the launch to go as smoothly as possible.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
No review is going to stop me from picking up Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3 anyway.
I think I would go so far to say he would be unable to do his job as reviews editor if he couldn't get advanced copies for his guys. That's a lot of power to have over someone.
'Punished' is an odd choice of words. Anyway, he criticised other aspects of Origins too.
PR isn't talking to him. That is what he is talking about. I'm assuming that is more of a concern now that he is in-charge of everything there.
pretty done
Member
Sony should have done this for that moron Gies.
Sandy Nipples
Banned
Companies protecting investments, to them, this individual is unpredictable, could fuck with the bottom line, and could cost them the most important thing in the universe, money.
People get killed for a lot less amount of money involved. I can guarantee you all, with the amount of hard cash flowing about in this industry, it's going to be shady as all hell.
If you play nice, maybe you get a cut off of the top of the marketing allocated funds, else you can just kindly fuck off from the circle of money, thank you.
People get killed for a lot less amount of money involved. I can guarantee you all, with the amount of hard cash flowing about in this industry, it's going to be shady as all hell.
If you play nice, maybe you get a cut off of the top of the marketing allocated funds, else you can just kindly fuck off from the circle of money, thank you.
LiquidSolid
Member
It seems to me like recently, the only way to get Microsoft to respond to an issue you have with them is to create a thread of GAF about it. Take a look at the Pier Solar thread for instance.
Ah I see. That's lame if true, wonder what's going on.
I would say his name is more well known in the media then most?
Fuck it if he doesn't know the embargo I assumed he didn't sign any sort of NDA.
Fuck them publish them "early" if you didn't sign anything.
Now this would have been entirely justifiable on Sony's part. They really should have done it.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I like Jim, but he has some reviews that are just headscratchingly bad. Its not that he uses the whole 10pt scale, it's that he only chooses to use it as the whole scale certain times.
Yeah, THAT will show them. They'll definitely talk to him then.
Review sites that need to make money absolutely have to have day one reviews with a numerical score. Having a huge player like MS blackball a reviews editor would mean fewer pre-release review copies which means less money for the owner(s) of the website, and probably the loss of a job for the editor. So 'greylisting' JS when he is just starting as a reviews editor is a pretty big message.
Again, if you read the twitter and watch the video its clear it isn't about the embargo dates, it is about PR talking to someone new who runs the escpaist games stuff.
LiquidSolid
Member
If they'd done that, Gies would've had a public tantrum, while Polygon and a bunch of other sites would've packed a fit about it. I'm not sure that's a better option than just tolerating Gies' fanboy bullshit.
Jim Sterling? I don't think he's friends with enough influential people to actually make this a big deal, so those sites will just ignore it.
Joseph Merrick
Member
by not talking to him those pr people are not responsible for the scores he gives. they're probably paid according to the metacritic average of the reviewers they massage
lol
Yeah, but unlike Sterling, this would make sense. Arthur Gies is an abominable human being and critic both whose inherent biases are so transparent as to make him practically see-through.
Sterling is... what? Extra harsh sometimes? Boo-fucking-hoo, game companies.
Heh, the sad part is that actually makes sense.
TouchMyBox
Member
Serves him right for calling a spade a spade and not falling in-line with the industry standard of bipartisanship in fear of making judgement calls and pissing off fanboys and PR departments alike.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Come on man, doing something like that to a semi-known person can only backfire. I think they really regret blacklisting Kotaku back in the day.
Come on, man. I don't care much for him and his work either but we should be better than this. Ad hominem attacks like this only makes it easier for people like Gies to dismiss GAF as an "angry Internet mob" when they get uncomfortable with the discussion going on here.
The Faceless Master
Member
This implies that Gies is somehow looking to have a reasonable discussion, either with GAF or other parties. That's not what he is about. Polygon has some terrific pieces, but it's propped up by all that is wrong with the industry, and that starts with Gies. Who the fuck openly whines about not wanting to review a game (Killzone) on twitter, then goes on to give it an expected bad score? Gies, that's who. There's no attempt at professionalism, so he should be given no quarter in reasonable circles.
The only fun in that game was present in Arkham City apparently, but retreads like Modern Warfare 3 are cool
digoutyoursoul
Member
He has said some very negative things about Xbox over the past few months but they should man up and deal with it. He has a right to his opinion.