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[iddqd]

Yeah I don't know... After looking at his facebook page (Crowder's)... it's tough for me to justify giving that guy a big platform.
At least with a debater of Rogan's caliber.
This conversation needs someone smarter to just destroy that guy and move on.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I don't like listening to podcasts like Rogan's or Corollas when politics or science are involved, because they're so wrong every time it's frustrating. Just factually incorrect, with appeals to emotion left right and center. I realize they're comedians, but comedians tend to be smart. Not these guys.

Dude if you ever listen to any comedians podcast they are all dumb as fuck lol.

 

[darscot]

I was down with his podcast before the election. Sure he said some stupid shit and had some nonsense conspiracy theory views. On MMA or anything comedy related he was very enjoyable. I could tolerate his macho and anti PC shit. Once the election started and he just started eating up every little piece of nonsense about Hillary and the Clinton Foundation I was out. He is just too stupid and demonstrates just how easy the masses can be manipulated. He has been pandering to that audience ever since. He used to be independent with a this me take it or leave it attitude. Now he is a lickspittle to the stupid.

 

[Dude Abides]

so ignorant

I agree, he is.

 

[dyergram]

Pretty incredible that a guy whose only discernible talent is getting people to eat bugs managed to get himself such a large following.

It's almost as if normal open minded people relate to him....

 

[paskowitz]

I remember open minded funny Joe Rogan. He knew he was saying crazy shit, but you could tell he wasn't even buying what he was shoveling... now... he has his head way too far up his own ass.

Good for him going after this guy, but seriously... what was he expecting? This is a good example of what engaging with these crazy fringe people results in and it isn't a substantive conversation about issues.

 

[y2dvd]

Crowder is a disingenuous pompous. He states things and frames it to his audience as though it is absolute truth while leaving out the full context.

Here's his climate change myth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwviDPo4Rh4

Here's a video by another youtuber who easily dismantles his points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEylCS6-hBE

I'm about to give this podcast a listen, but I hope Rogan goes in on Crowder.

 

[Ray Wonder]

I remember open minded funny Joe Rogan. He knew he was saying crazy shit, but you could tell he wasn't even buying what he was shoveling... now... he has his head way too far up his own ass.

Good for him going after this guy, but seriously... what was he expecting? This is a good example of what engaging with these crazy fringe people results in and it isn't a substantive conversation about issues.

Do you think he switched, or you did?

I still think he's open minded and funny

 

[BSsBrolly]

Do you think he switched, or you did?

I still think he's open minded and funny

He definitely switched. He still talks about fake Clinton scandals... and dismisses Trump's. It's one thing if he talked about both but he doesn't.

 

[Sato Koiji]

Can I get some timestamps for some outrageous moments from this?

I'm gonna listen to it tomorrow but I wanna see what I'm getting into here lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd0oSNjHf1A

That whole segment is crazy. Joe is an impulsive crazy prick but hey, I already knew .

 

[Arkeband]

I'm only a third into this and Joe's already gotten pretty testy with Crowder's rambling and labeling.

 

[Mega]

Pretty incredible that a guy whose only discernible talent is getting people to eat bugs managed to get himself such a large following.

His only talent? A quick Google search would have stopped you from making such an unnecessary shitpost. Rogan was an actor and regular cast member on NewsRadio, holds black belts in TKD, BJJ, Judo + some state/US champion awards, and has been a rather good UFC commentator for ages (much better than the others UFC has had).

 

[Calderc]

How can he be left leaning when he hates welfare? You Americans have a very distorted definition for what is the left.

He hates welfare? Receipts.

He only recently had a conversation about the benefits of universal basic income.

 

[ebullientprism]

How can he be left leaning when he hates welfare? You Americans have a very distorted definition for what is the left.

He is stupidly in love with the idea of guaranteed basic income.

 

[cwmartin]

The fact that he even had this dumbfuck on his show is embarrassing. What exactly are we defending Rogan for here, bravery?

 

[Calderc]

The fact that he even had this dumbfuck on his show is embarrassing. What exactly are we defending Rogan for here, bravery?

We're defending him against shit like this post, basically.

 

[caliph95]

How can he be left leaning when he hates welfare? You Americans have a very distorted definition for what is the left.

Considering i seen some people consider Piers leftist because of view on guns when he is considered right on Britain kinda shows that. From what i heard it could be due that America is on the right of some European countries so their left is closer to the centre and some right than the European left. I heard Merkel who is considered right will be left in america but i have to do research on that but wouldn't be surprised

 

[Ray Wonder]

The fact that he even had this dumbfuck on his show is embarrassing. What exactly are we defending Rogan for here, bravery?

I don't understand the mentality behind not having people on a podcast because of their political beliefs.

Why would you have someone you agree with on everything? So you can sit there and high five for four hours?

Surrounding yourself with people with views that differ from you is an effective way to become more understanding and educated.

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

Considering i seen some people consider Piers leftist because of view on guns when he is considered right on Britain kinda shows that. From what i heard it could be due that America is on the right of some European countries so their left is closer to the centre and some right than the European left. I heard Merkel who is considered right will be left in america but i have to do research on that but wouldn't be surprised

Piers Morgan is a populist but his political leanings are closer to centre left in british terms. He's typically a labour supporter and edited the Mirror, the biggest left leaning tabloid.

However he's also an attention seeking, starfucking dog nonce so he'll say anything to anyone about anything.

 

[Always-honest]

Pretty incredible that a guy whose only discernible talent is getting people to eat bugs managed to get himself such a large following.

Insecure much?

 

[caliph95]

Piers Morgan is a populist but his political leanings are closer to centre left in british terms. He's typically a labour supporter and edited the Mirror, the biggest left leaning tabloid.

However he's also an attention seeking, starfucking dog nonce so he'll say anything to anyone about anything.

Good to know

 

[Count Dookkake]

I think a lot of the anti-Joe sentiment stems from him looking like the guy that used to give you swirlies.

 

[Dude Abides]

It's almost as if normal open minded people relate to him....

More likely that lonely young dudes are easily entertained.

And triggered.

 

[paskowitz]

Do you think he switched, or you did?

I still think he's open minded and funny

I worded my characterization incorrectly with the first part of my post. I feel like Rogan has started to take on crazier and crazier guests and has taken the views of those guests too seriously. No doubt that is the appeal of his show for guests because they have a space to talk openly, which does have its pros. I simply feel in the past he had a greater tendency to challenge and inquire. Stuff like the Ronda Rousey 911 stuff is just too far for me.

This episode was probably a bad time to make this point because he does challenge this guest. So yeah, in context my sentiment is confusing.

Also those questioning Joe Rogan's character... yeah... the vast majority of people who have met him in person (many of my close friends have) say he is an all around good guy. A bit out there, but a good guy.

 

[TTOOLL]

any TLDR on Steven Crowder? no idea who he is

He thinks differently from most people on GAF, therefore, as you saw, he's considered a piece of shit, a scumbag.

 

[Takuan]

It amazes me that people perceive Rogan as some alt-right guy. He seems like a genuinely well-meaning, and even nice, person. Occasionally he says something I don't agree with, but he is more than willing to admit that he is no expert on subjects of which he is in fact not an expert. He is clearly capable of learning and of self-correcting. It's a shame that SJWs are only interested in robotically preaching to the choir. It's stupid and ultimately weakens the cause.

It's not amazing at all. Regardless of political leanings, many people are quick to write someone off entirely once they've read or heard a sentence they disagree with. It's just easier to do so.

 

[cwmartin]

He thinks differently from most people on GAF, therefore, as you saw, he's considered a piece of shit, a scumbag.

"Thinks differently" is quite the understatement

 

[Kusagari]

I was looking at political podcasts a couple months ago and randomly found Crowder's; having no idea who he was. For some reason even I can't explain, maybe as a study into alt-right fuckery, I've listened to it weekly since and he's got to be one of the most disingenuous conservatives around.

Here is a rundown of his show every week: saying he didn't/doesn't support Trump while defending Trump, saying "tranny" a lot, bringing up Lena Dunham constantly as an example of liberals, making fun of the Young Turks, and trying to own people in gun debates by boiling everything down to a semantics argument about assault rifles and semi-automatic definitions.

He'll also constantly throw "facts" around by citing things that he's either taking massively out of context or just plain making up.

 

[Calderc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd0oSNjHf1A

That whole segment is crazy. Joe is an impulsive crazy prick but hey, I already knew .

As an aside, can someone please GIF Rogan's face taking a drag on the pipe around 33.05 ish.

 

[Count Dookkake]

It's not amazing at all. Regardless of political leanings, many people are quick to write someone off entirely once they've read or heard a sentence they disagree with. It's just easier to do so.

Well, fuck you, pal.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

I think a lot of the anti-Joe sentiment stems from him looking like the guy that used to give you swirlies.

Dude was on Monkey Cage podcast produced by the BBC and with notable scientific guests. The event was hosted by Brian Cox, the physicist. He was oddly quiet for someone who is outspoken.

He's a pseudointellectual. He believes in all kinds of quackery. A recent example is cryotherapy.

 

[Tater Tot]

Pretty incredible that a guy whose only discernible talent is getting people to eat bugs managed to get himself such a large following.

go read his wiki at least. This post is just ignorant

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

Dude was on Monkey Cage podcast produced by the BBC and with notable scientific guests. The event was hosted by Brian Cox, the physicist. He was oddly quiet for someone who is outspoken.

He's a pseudointellectual.

Probably because 'I'm just being open minded' doesn't fly well in the face of anti-science, pro religious, spiritual complicity over here. He reminds me a lot of Joey Barton, but is less of a prick.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Dude was on Monkey Cage podcast produced by the BBC and with notable scientific guests. The event was hosted by Brian Cox, the physicist. He was oddly quiet for someone who is outspoken.

He's a pseudointellectual. He believes in all kinds of quackery. A recent example is cryotherapy.

This is an interesting series of non-sequiturs.

 

[Mega]

More likely that lonely young dudes are easily entertained.

And triggered.

So a shitpost followed by a retreat to the juvenile "triggered!" response to the people who called out your terrible post. What else?

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Probably because 'I'm just being open minded' doesn't fly well in the face of anti-science, pro religious, spiritual complicity over here. He reminds me a lot of Joey Barton, but is less of a prick.

Open minded in that sense is just code, for "I have no idea what I am talking about."

Steven Novella has written about his bullshit.
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/cryotherapy-basic-vs-clinical-science/

This goes beyond naivety and into ignoring evidence for the sake of belief.

 

[dragonelite]

He hates welfare? Receipts.

He only recently had a conversation about the benefits of universal basic income.

Ooh yeah the episode with Eddie Huang, kinda put his mind to think about basic income
and he kinda started turning around of the idea after some research into it if i'm not mistaken

 

[Dude Abides]

So a shitpost followed by a retreat to the juvenile "triggered!" response to the people who called out your terrible post. What else?

I've already pointed out that Joe Rogan is a no-talent hack. No point in repeating. That fanboys flip their shit that someone dares to take a dim view of their hero is their issue, not mine.

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

Open minded in that sense is just code, for "I have no idea what I am talking about."

Steven Novella has written about his bullshit.
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/cryotherapy-basic-vs-clinical-science/

This goes beyond naivety and into ignoring evidence for the sake of belief.

Kind of makes you wish that people who have no training in or capacity for understanding scientific arguments would not offer opinions on the latest load of bollocks to come from quacks making a quick buck, but unfortunately life isn't that simple.

 

[Calderc]

I've already pointed out that Joe Rogan is a no-talent hack. No point in repeating. That fanboys flip their shit that someone dares to take a dim view of their hero is their issue, not mine.

People pointing out how wrong you are is not 'flipping their shit'.

 

[sirap]

God damn Joe Rogan threads always deliver on salt.

Gaffers really hate him lol.

 

[Mega]

I've already pointed out that Joe Rogan is a no-talent hack. No point in repeating. That fanboys flip their shit that someone dares to take a dim view of their hero is their issue, not mine.

No one is "flipping their shit" and calling Rogan their hero. You're deflecting with that remark and the earlier "triggered young fans" remark because you've been called out for stupid shitposts that add nothing to the discussion. Are you ITT for any purpose other than to be annoying and edgy and behave as terribly as possible? If anything, I think this thread and a general air of positive takes about Rogan have triggered you to come here and try to shit up the place as much as possible because you can't stand it.

 

[Takuan]

Well, fuck you, pal.

Damn it, you told me. Guess I'll take some DMT, step into the isolation chamber, and contemplate my existence.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Damn it, you told me. Guess I'll take some DMT, step into the isolation chamber, and contemplate my existence.

I don't play to the cheap seats.

Have some more coffee and then re-read our exchange.

 

[Ray Wonder]

Damn it, you told me. Guess I'll take some DMT, step into the isolation chamber, and contemplate my existence.

He agreed with you

I don't play to the cheap seats.

Have some more coffee and then re-read our exchange.

I took you less seriously with your old avatar

 

[cwmartin]

I don't play to the cheap seats.

Have some more coffee and then re-read our exchange.

He'll need to get his fix of kerrygold bulletproof coffee and a tab of Alpha BRAIN before he can fully comprehend.

 

[Takuan]

I don't play to the cheap seats.

Have some more coffee and then re-read our exchange.

I'll have to double-up on my usual dose of instant alpha brain. Probably add some MCT oil in there for good measure.

He agreed with you

I know - was trying to play along.

 

[Camwi]

People pointing out how wrong you are is not 'flipping their shit'.

Just ignore him, he's trolling. I'm guessing the whole Dude username and avatar is supposed to be ironic or something.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

God damn Joe Rogan threads always deliver on salt.

Gaffers really hate him lol.

He hasn't shown himself to be a favorable dude, so why this pity?

 

[highrider]

I've already pointed out that Joe Rogan is a no-talent hack. No point in repeating. That fanboys flip their shit that someone dares to take a dim view of their hero is their issue, not mine.

I don't see anybody flipping out, or presenting Joe Rogan as a being even talented. He's a likable guy to a lot of people. That's all you need to be to be him.