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Joe Rogan Podcast with Steven Crowder
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The extremely diverse layers of weird double sarcasm and people that don't get sarcasm mixed in this site makes it hard to tell sometimes.
Count Dookkake
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We're in too deep.
You need some ONNIT in your life - get optimized, ya fuck.
Dude Abides definitely needs mushrooms, stat.
We need to go deeper.
Like clockwork....
Spyder_Monkey
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No clue, but Hitler also had Jewish blood. Still he tends to sprout a lot strongman rhetoric that was associated with the Nazis. This tweet got a lot of attention from him last year.
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/687260244364267522?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
boneyjangles
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Joe might be socially liberal (like just about anyone else) but is clearly HARD RIGHT on money if you listen to him long enough. Recently he mentioned Inheritance tax being ridiculous. He can throw out the odd 'yeah we should help people out, totally' when he has a left leaning guest on, but when it come down to it that's not his view on economics. He endorsed Gary Johnston for god's sake.
I'm listening to this episode right now and man is Steven Crowder a cunt. I'd never heard of him before but he's just another typical hard right asshole who seems to bathe in the drama of all this made up "lefties this and lefties that" shit. Its so tiring listening to people like him talk.
I'm about an hour and 15 mins in so far and Joe is doing a pretty good job of making him back his shit up. He's trying but a lot of it goes nowhere. He failed pretty hard at arguing that everyone should drive a car from 40 years ago and it'd be better for the environment than a Prius. Now here is he defending "Right To Work" states and I sort of just want to deck him. Oh shit, that means I'm an intolerant leftie! Ooops!
I'm about an hour and 15 mins in so far and Joe is doing a pretty good job of making him back his shit up. He's trying but a lot of it goes nowhere. He failed pretty hard at arguing that everyone should drive a car from 40 years ago and it'd be better for the environment than a Prius. Now here is he defending "Right To Work" states and I sort of just want to deck him. Oh shit, that means I'm an intolerant leftie! Ooops!
Joe Rogan is complicated, holding many libertarian views but also some leftist ones like he supported Bernie for free tuition. I think his idea might be that society should arm people with the tools to succeed but after that they are on their own which explains his support for free college.
lol so I got to the actual argument portion - you can see Joe's expression change when Jamie finds one of Crowder's writers on his site "jokingly" calling potsmokers idiots. Then it just goes OFF.
I don't really want to watch Crowder's followup podcast with Joe just to see how this continues, but at the same time I do.
As Abelard pointed out above, he's not - and in fact he's brought up to any guest that he can the idea of universal basic income.
I don't really want to watch Crowder's followup podcast with Joe just to see how this continues, but at the same time I do.
As Abelard pointed out above, he's not - and in fact he's brought up to any guest that he can the idea of universal basic income.
Always-honest
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Oh sure. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is instantly too young to be smart or a fanboy, haha.
Your answers are textbook insecure teenager material.
I appreciate that Joe has people like Alex Jones and this Crowder guy on his show. I had never seen Infowars before and just kind of accepted that Jones was pegged as this insane nutjob. Now that I've heard it straight from his mouth, I'm grateful to Rogan for giving me that experience. I wouldn't have sought out Jones, so having him on a show I listen to regularly was great. Same thing with assholes like Milo and Crowder. I don't seek them out either, but I think its important to have them on shows like this and while I think Rogan gave Jones too much of a pass (probably partly because of Eddie Bravo being there) I think Rogan did a great job of calling out Crowder on several issues outside of the pot discussion.
These exchanges are important. People like Tomi Lahren, Steve Crowder, and Milo need to be seen and heard getting shut down. Otherwise, they exist in their bubble where they are unchallenged and free to do whatever they want, much like Trump has been doing. When you have a captive audience that will listen to everything you have to say and treat it like it came from the burning bush, that's a powerful position. So when your Uncle Ron gets on facebook and posts some video of Crowder talking bullshit, its important to show your uncle the video of Rogan shutting his argument down. "There you go, Uncle. Your champion has been thrown to the ground."
You can't just say "these people are too dangerous to have speaking in public!" because you'll only give them the upper hand and let them tell their audience "Look, they know I'm right so they won't even talk to me!". To which Uncle Ron nods and says "Hell yeah, Crowder you speakin' truth, that's why!".
These exchanges are important. People like Tomi Lahren, Steve Crowder, and Milo need to be seen and heard getting shut down. Otherwise, they exist in their bubble where they are unchallenged and free to do whatever they want, much like Trump has been doing. When you have a captive audience that will listen to everything you have to say and treat it like it came from the burning bush, that's a powerful position. So when your Uncle Ron gets on facebook and posts some video of Crowder talking bullshit, its important to show your uncle the video of Rogan shutting his argument down. "There you go, Uncle. Your champion has been thrown to the ground."
You can't just say "these people are too dangerous to have speaking in public!" because you'll only give them the upper hand and let them tell their audience "Look, they know I'm right so they won't even talk to me!". To which Uncle Ron nods and says "Hell yeah, Crowder you speakin' truth, that's why!".
Well said. I would also like to add that it also gives an opportunity to see how these people react to being challanged. It happens so rarely to them that they don't know how to react, they lose their shit and resort to the exact same fucking tactics they accuse their enemies of. It's beautiful, and important, to see that they can't back up any of the horseshit they spout.
drhankmccoyphd
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Pretty much my opinion on Rogan's guests. You can't undervalue having opinions challenged. I've tuned into LwC on a occasion and while the guy is an undisputed dick he has had some worthwhile discussions/debates with Sally Kohn, Christopher Titus, an others on a variety of topics, and say what you will about him but he let's his guests have their say.
Regarding giving Alex a pass, I mean...what else can you do but watch him go? Look what happened when Piers Morgan directly challenged him on CNN as reasonably as possible. Alex isn't capable of reason, he's in too deep with that shit. Or it's a shtick that he's got an unshakable devotion to maintaining. Either way, it doesn't seem like butting heads with him or scolding him for his beliefs would accomplish anything other than making the interview even MORE ridiculous/entertaining, which would be counterproductive to any efforts of pwning him. The same is true of Milo to an extent. The more you challenge him directly the more he ratchets up the shtick until he comes off more as a funny performance artist instead the engineer of chaos and toxicity that he is.
Metal Gear?!
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Universal basic income is a big libertarian thing
spot on.
He's hard to pin down, because he'll make plainly racist jokes while also exposing bigotry and brutality in our government.
I think Rogan does have good intentions, but is hugely un-woke in how he expresses them.
plainly racist... cmon man...
BobbyRobby
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Thought Joe was a little too aggressive and didn't like him pressuring the dude to drink.
Still was funny to see crowder try to frame Joe as a bully for mundane stuff when his whole schtick seems to be sticking it to sensitive liberals. I'm glad Joe called him on that among other stuff.
Crowder seems like a dude who surrounds himself with like-minded syncophants. It kills humor. You always know what he's gonna say.
Still was funny to see crowder try to frame Joe as a bully for mundane stuff when his whole schtick seems to be sticking it to sensitive liberals. I'm glad Joe called him on that among other stuff.
Crowder seems like a dude who surrounds himself with like-minded syncophants. It kills humor. You always know what he's gonna say.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Skipped around this ep because Crowder is a douche of the highest order. Favorite part I caught was him whining about missing his flight. Heh.
chromatic9
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Had to chuckle with Joe when he said "I've been alive for 49 years and never heard a motherfucker say leftism" in response to Crowder.
SubScorpianZero
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follow up on Crowder's podcast with Joe Rogan on it. Pretty good listen if you enjoyed the first.
i like this point he makes
beginning of the Rogan appearance.
i like this point he makes
beginning of the Rogan appearance.
Just heard the episode with Crowder as guest. Yeah, kinda lame how Joe only went hard on calling him out was when he was talking shit about weed and smokers. He went easy on him aside from that. Not only that, but he even restated several times that he liked Crowder. I dunno, I guess when you've seen as much hard living as Joe you get thick skin and can better tolerate people who are just assholes and little more than that. Still weird how he only lost it when the legitimacy of weed was being questioned. If anything, I agree with crowder on some of those points (pot being a potential catalyst sparking worsened states of mental health) but his weaselly, smug attitude and dinosauric social view are clearly the thing he needs to get checked on most, and Joe let most of that slide. Then again, maybe it's a Milo or Alex type situation where you just can't win a direct confrontation with that guy and need to shame him another way or let karma take over, I dunno.
snickothemule
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Couldn't help but giggle every time Joe said "oh you son of a bitch!" and reigned in Crowder every time he got carried away with his practiced rhetoric.
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