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[Atrophis]

It's official name might be Rugby Football but I doubt there are many people who call it football. Just like there aren't any people who call football soccer outside of the US

Watch some NRL and then get back to me.

 

[LM4sure]

Don't mind me

wtf, well that confirms soccer is lame.

I'll watch the world cup though. that's actually interesting.

 

[Cep]

*salutes*

Cue nth football vs handegg discussion. :lol



Your viewpoints on this depends on the country you're born in.

Born in Haiti, prefer American Football...

 

[Pinko Marx]

Ummm...yes, Jazz is american, what's your point? He wasn't bashing America as a whole, just the handball.

Watch the video again. He bashes america plenty of times.

 

[Chinner]

here is a video of some anime person called excel going to america
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x39Jp-z61M&feature=player_embedded

it seems to show a very realistic portrayal of america, i.e. slums, black people with boomboxes and general unfriendliness.

 

[Wallach]

It's official name might be Rugby Football but I doubt there are many people who call it football. Just like there aren't any people who call football soccer outside of the US

Wow sounds like it's not really a big deal and most of this thread is pretty fuckin' stupid then. Shocker.

 

[stupei]

:lol thanks for this

so not only are soccer players whiney little bitches, they're dirty too? good to know

You see sometimes when you play a sport because you are passionate about it and not just for a paycheck, you have emotional responses. Crazy, I know.

 

[Mr. Sam]

I grow tired of these threads. Still, I suppose some of these replies are humorous enough to justify their existence. Carry on.

 

[xbhaskarx]

Cleese is WRONG... for the tenth time, the term soccer is not only acceptable ("soccer" comes from "Association" Football) but the word was created BY the freaking English themselves, in the mid-1800s.

I love football and handegg in almost equal amounts. Sue me.

This.
But I'll side with real football over the American version because the World Cup is 100x better than the Super Bowl, and it's only days away.

Football comes from Rugby Football whose rules predate your silly "Association Football" or soccer. You used to be able to carry the ball in soccer until it got banned.

Oh shit, shyamalanflip.gif

 

[Stahsky]

You see sometimes when you play a sport because you are passionate about it and not just for a paycheck, you have emotional responses. Crazy, I know.

what

 

[Xeke]

Why do you park in a driveway but drive on a parkway?! The name makes no sense?!?

Rocky mountain oysters are actually oysters right? No? Waaaahh?!?

 

[Cheeto]

You see sometimes when you play a sport because you are passionate about it and not just for a paycheck, you have emotional responses. Crazy, I know.

relevant

 

[stupei]

relevant

As relevant as your links, certainly.

 

[PersonaX]

 

[Cheeto]

As relevant as your links, certainly.

My post that wasn't quoting anyone? My links showing a bunch of soccer players getting breathed on and then screaming and rolling around on the ground and contrasting it with a football player breaking an arm midway into a play and finishing it with a touchdown??

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Immutable law of the internet #1 - Love X? Prove it by hating Y!

 

[British Monsoon]

Why is the full name for rugby 'Rugby Football'?

Because it's the archaic full name for a sport invented years ago, and when you think about really doesn't make all the much sense? Not to mention the fact that the full term 'Rugby Football' has dropped from common parlance, now appearing only in the full names of leagues, teams and organizations.

 

[legend166]

Guys seriously just just up your inferior forms of football and just start following Australian Rules Football.

I promise you'll like it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-PFRrJQtew

 

[Osietra]

The word 'rugby' has an interesting beginning; when it was founded back in the 17th century, as it was a predominantly upper class sport, people used to play in spats and smart suits, and since they didn't want to get mud all over themselves, they employed the working classes to sew giant rugs to place on the field (which is where the term rugger comes from).

 

[Wellington]

I don't really care for this discussion, to be honest. However, I do have a question which will surely get me crucified, but I figured I'd ask somewhere.

The reason I am attracted to (American) football is the high level of strategy associated with the sport on all levels from high school to professional ranks. Does soccer have deep & complex strategies employed by each team/club/country? Having to stop and reset after every play allows for a higher level of strategy, in my opinion, than in a sport in which the teams are always moving (Soccer, hockey, basketball, rugby).

A quick google search shows that yes, there is a good amount of strat (moreso tactics) in soccer, but to those that follow both, does it get as involved as with football?

 

[Atrophis]

Guys seriously just just up your inferior forms of football and just start following Australian Rules Football.

I promise you'll like it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-PFRrJQtew

I already do like it

Dont give a toss where a sport is played or what its called as long as its entertaining. We wouldnt need threads like this if more people felt the same.

 

[stupei]

My post that wasn't quoting anyone? My links showing a bunch of soccer players getting breathed on and then screaming and rolling around on the ground and contrasting it with a football player breaking an arm midway into a play and finishing it with a touchdown??

Okay, since you still don't get it:

Showing a fraction of the thousands who play soccer professionally being whiners and then extrapolating that all players are whiners has very little to do with having an opinion on either sport. It isn't relevant to the discussion of the sport's merit or value because it isn't an informed opinion. Some soccer players have famously continued to play through bleeding head wounds with only a bandage wrapped in place. Should I extrapolate something about the strength, determination, merit of all players based on a single example, or would that be really dumb?

Likewise suggesting that players occasionally getting angry, upset, crying, fighting, etc. is indicative of cheats and babies and not, you know, giving a damn shows a lack of perspective or context. I was pointing out that maybe sometimes athletes get angry because they care. And sometimes, yes, they are dirty. But I'm not sure how they can be both dirty cheats who hurt and are hurt and babies who can't stand pain at the same time. Maybe -- now just maybe! -- they are actually different things at different times -- maybe even are different people entirely -- and trying to analyze a sport you know nothing about based on a song and dance video on youtube isn't the best way to reach a convincing conclusion of any real merit.

 

[Xeke]

I don't really care for this discussion, to be honest. However, I do have a question which will surely get me crucified, but I figured I'd ask somewhere.

The reason I am attracted to (American) football is the high level of strategy associated with the sport on all levels from high school to professional ranks. Does soccer have deep & complex strategies employed by each team/club/country? Having to stop and reset after every play allows for a higher level of strategy, in my opinion, than in a sport in which the teams are always moving (Soccer, hockey, basketball, rugby).

A quick google search shows that yes, there is a good amount of strat (moreso tactics) in soccer, but to those that follow both, does it get as involved as with football?

Football is chess. Soccer is checkers.

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

Pretty sure in Soccer they are taught to make a big song and dance about any minor thing that happens to them in the hope of getting a penalty.

 

[iapetus]

The word 'rugby' has an interesting beginning; when it was founded back in the 17th century, as it was a predominantly upper class sport, people used to play in spats and smart suits, and since they didn't want to get mud all over themselves, they employed the working classes to sew giant rugs to place on the field (which is where the term rugger comes from).

The sad thing is that some people might actually believe this.

 

[Suairyu]

If memory serves, American Football (or Gridiron) was also invented by the British. The extra padding was because it resulted in more deaths than Rugby typically did. What can we conclude from this? Nothing. Here's my take:

Gridiron Football - slow-moving, tactical game. I watch it once a year because of the BBC's coverage of the Superbowl. Feels like watching a sports version of 300. Love every moment of it, ridiculous American excess surrounding the sport and all.

Football - free-flowing, beautiful game. Important as it is the closest thing we have to planet Earth's 'official' sport. As an enjoyable event, the World Cup is rivalled only by the Olympics, and I'd argue the World Cup is the more important of the two. Has superior fan-brawls.

Rugby - Real men play this game.

Tennis - better than all of the above.

 

[iapetus]

Pretty sure in Soccer they are taught to make a big song and dance about any minor thing that happens to them in the hope of getting a penalty.

Pretty sure in American Football they're taught to make a big song and dance about any minor thing that happens to them in the hope of getting a pass interference call.

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

Pretty sure in American Football they're taught to make a big song and dance about any minor thing that happens to them in the hope of getting a pass interference call.

To this degree?

 

[Xeke]

Pretty sure in American Football they're taught to make a big song and dance about any minor thing that happens to them in the hope of getting a pass interference call.

Not as much in college football.

 

[NekoFever]

Proponents of a sport that takes 3-4 hours to play a 60-minute game have no right to criticise another sport for being boring.

 

[Xeke]

Proponents of a sport that takes 3-4 hours to play a 60-minute game have no right to criticise another sport for being boring.

You could play a game of chess in 5 minutes if you wanted.

 

[Fularu]

The 'handegg' whiners strangely often come from countries where 'rugby football' (to give it its full name) is played.

We don't whine about it! We fully appréciate that they found a way for the ladies to safely play Rugby!

 

[dejay]

I like how he said "something completely different" at the end.

Also sport - isn't it great we have such a choice of diverse products played at an elite level to chose from?

 

[SmokyDave]

To this degree?

:lol

This is the only reason I enjoy watching football. Burly, athletic millionaires getting blown over by the breeze and then going all Royal Shakespeare Company. It ought to be the focus of the sport.

 

[Cheeto]

Okay, since you still don't get it:

Showing a fraction of the thousands who play soccer professionally being whiners and then extrapolating that all players are whiners has very little to do with having an opinion on either sport. It isn't relevant to the discussion of the sport's merit or value because it isn't an informed opinion. Some soccer players have famously continued to play through bleeding head wounds with only a bandage wrapped in place. Should I extrapolate something about the strength, determination, merit of all players based on a single example, or would that be really dumb?

Likewise suggesting that players occasionally getting angry, upset, crying, fighting, etc. is indicative of cheats and babies and not, you know, giving a damn shows a lack of perspective or context. I was pointing out that maybe sometimes athletes get angry because they care. And sometimes, yes, they are dirty. But I'm not sure how they can be both dirty cheats who hurt and are hurt and babies who can't stand pain at the same time. Maybe -- now just maybe! -- they are actually different things at different times -- maybe even are different people entirely -- and trying to analyze a sport you know nothing about based on a song and dance video on youtube isn't the best way to reach a convincing conclusion of any real merit.

:lol

 

[Xeke]

We don't whine about it! We fully appréciate that they found a way for the ladies to safely play Rugby!

The forces involved in football hits are far greater than anything in rugby, sorry.

 

[Kritz]

Guys seriously just just up your inferior forms of football and just start following Australian Rules Football.

I promise you'll like it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-PFRrJQtew

+1.

English football is boring, American football is for pansies. Australian football is superior.

 

[Atrophis]

The forces involved in football hits are far greater than anything in rugby, sorry.

That probably has something to do with the padding and helmet that the players wear.

Try American Football style hits without them and you'd kill yourself.

 

[Esch]

I like how people call american football sissy for wearing pads, just shows that they know absolutely fuck-all about the sport.

 

[Mr. Sam]

+1.

English football is boring, American football is for pansies. Australian football is superior.

I did quite enjoy all the piggybacking in that video. Maybe that says something about me.

 

[Xeke]

That probably has something to do with the padding and helmet that the players wear.

Try American Football style hits without them and you'd kill yourself.

That's what I mean. Playing it without that protection is suicide.

 

[Atrophis]

That's what I mean. Playing it without that protection is suicide.

Well my point was the hits in American Football are big because of the protection, rather than the protection is because of the big hits.

These protective pads were introduced decades ago and have improved ever since to help minimize lasting injury to players. An unintended consequence of all the safety equipment has resulted in increasing levels of violence in the game. Players may now hurl themselves at one another at high speeds without a significant chance of injury. The injuries that do result tend to be severe and often season or career-ending and sometimes fatal. In previous years with less padding, tackling more closely resembled tackles in Rugby football. Better helmets have allowed players to use their helmets as weapons.

From wiki.

 

[AdventureRacing]

+1.

English football is boring, American football is for pansies. Australian football is superior.

:lol

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

That probably has something to do with the padding and helmet that the players wear.

Try American Football style hits without them and you'd kill yourself.

Eh theres nothing in NFL that i havnt seen in NRL, rugby.

 

[Xeke]

Well my point was the hits in American Football are big because of the protection, rather than the protection is because of the big hits.



From wiki.

To some degree. But it is against the rules to use your helmet as a weapon.

 

[vas_a_morir]

+1.

English football is boring, American football is for pansies. Australian football is superior.

Pansies? My god, guys, for real. Football pads don't stop owies. They keep the game playable without a death on the field every possession. Helmets? You get hit helmet to helmet, you stand a good chance of going to the hospital. It would seriously be unplayable without pads. If you've EVER played football, at any time in your life, you know this. And I played soccer ten times more than I played football.

 

[Atrophis]

Eh theres nothing in NFL that i havnt seen in NRL, rugby.

The hardest tackles in League are with the shoulder. You dont see anyone throwing their whole body through the air at someone.

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

The hardest tackles in League are with the shoulder. You dont see anyone throwing their whole body through the air at someone.

They do.

 

[pulsemyne]

here are some big rugby hits. The forces involved in stopping people weighing 17 stone running at full speed are massive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvMFHXcd0yQ&feature=related

 

[GreekWolf]

Young Cleese, back in the 70's and 80's, was one of my all-time favorite comedians.

Old man Cleese strikes me as cynical, bitter and perpetually cranky. Not sure what happened, but I'll always have fond memories of his Monty Python days.