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John Cleese bashes American "Football"
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Shouta
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J2 Cool said:
American Football has all that strategy too, difference is Baseball is slower and easier to recognize the elements than the other. All of the things that happen in football happen in an instant and you have to make heads and tails of everything that occurs. Plus with so many things going on and impromptu decisions by the players during the plays changes things.
Hot Coldman
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Polk said:
I don't remember a football movie where someone has their eyeball knocked out.
As an immigrant, I tried to absorb your sports. Here are the results in order of greatness:
1. Football - most Tivo/Beer/Lazy Sunday compatible sport ever. Great action. Passionate fans, best old slow-mo footage..."the frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field..."
2. Basketball - great sport, occasionally RUINED by post-game interviews... "I'd like to thank the omnipotent hand of God, in its infinite magnificence, for helping me do that easy layup in the third."
3. Hockey - TERRIBLE televised sport, not helped by low scoring, cold places, strikes or complete invisibility of puck. When Fox tried to address this, the same idiot fans who encouraged the strike protested against the fact that ordinary people could now see the puck.
4. Baseball - JESUS it's like watching someone grind a particularly tepid and obscure RPG.
5. Soccer - you guys finally seem to have it. Not great on TV when I could be watching Real Madrid, but getting better. Expect this to dethrone hockey, vaulting over Baseball soon.
In summary, you (we) have WAY more rapists and felons in your sports than other countries.
1. Football - most Tivo/Beer/Lazy Sunday compatible sport ever. Great action. Passionate fans, best old slow-mo footage..."the frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field..."
2. Basketball - great sport, occasionally RUINED by post-game interviews... "I'd like to thank the omnipotent hand of God, in its infinite magnificence, for helping me do that easy layup in the third."
3. Hockey - TERRIBLE televised sport, not helped by low scoring, cold places, strikes or complete invisibility of puck. When Fox tried to address this, the same idiot fans who encouraged the strike protested against the fact that ordinary people could now see the puck.
4. Baseball - JESUS it's like watching someone grind a particularly tepid and obscure RPG.
5. Soccer - you guys finally seem to have it. Not great on TV when I could be watching Real Madrid, but getting better. Expect this to dethrone hockey, vaulting over Baseball soon.
In summary, you (we) have WAY more rapists and felons in your sports than other countries.
Slightly Live
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Could never enjoy any American Football game I've watched. There are so many breaks and pauses in the action. It's every twenty or thirty seconds the game stops, the referee makes some kind of decision I don't understand, everyone on the field changes about, repeat again in another short duration. The ball slowly moves around the field every few minutes. Occasionally someone kicks it.
Pretty sure I haven't a clue whats going on.
Pretty sure I haven't a clue whats going on.
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Skiptastic
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iapetus said:
Hot Coldman
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iapetus said:
Oh shit, completely forgot about that. OK you win :lol
Shouta said:
I'd agree, the show NFL Matchup was awesome for showing that kind of stuff, I just don't think the coach has quite the same impact and the decisions are as exact as they are in baseball. There's a ton of options on a given, then opened up for freeform play and QB play. You set your plays up, but then they play out generally in an unpredictable way. Baseball a lot of their strategic play is executed exact, if they're doing it right. Basically, athletic ability and the athletes decisions takeover in football a lot imo.
The strongest coaching jobs in football are generally looked at as ballsy choices, when to sneak in the special teams plays, and the difference these make in close games. But I think the strategy has less control of the sport than it does in baseball. As an example, all the strategy in the world rarely stops a WR or (generally a) RB who's started the game hot from continuing. The sport rewards the great athlete. In baseball, you can just walk a hot batter most of the game. And thus, strategy takes a bit of precedence over the players from controlling the game. Not that I even like that example, because I'm all about the players controlling the game, it's much more interesting.
SatelliteOfLove
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Goron2000 said:
Dammit, Bobby...
NEOPARADIGM
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Fuck soccer.
victreeb3l
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I love both Soccer and American Football, although I enjoy playing AF a lot more than soccer.
I can care less what AF is called, it's damned awesome.
I can care less what AF is called, it's damned awesome.
blackMamba1187
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...a-World-Cup-team-of-NFL-player?urn=nfl,247148
"If we could build a World Cup team of NFL Players..."
"If we could build a World Cup team of NFL Players..."
ChoklitReign
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Had to be done.
$1148 Jack said:
In Cornwall it means Holiday Makers
i.e. "fuckin emmits!, making everything expensive and treating our town like shit"
In Cornish I think it means ants or small creature.
Also Handegg?
I used to call it "Turn Based Rugby"
but then again is rugby itself turn based?
JzeroT1437
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I don't enjoy either, but if I walk into a bar and football's playing I'll rough it out. If it's soccer I leave immediately. Shit is boring.
Son of Godzilla
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Football is so much easier to watch than Soccer. Soccer is like some existential dread, where every burst of energy spasms out into nothingness almost as soon as it starts. Football has goals. Accomplishments. Every play means something.
Knew it was only a matter of time before a Ray Lewis video popped up.blackMamba1187 said:
One of the interesting things about the Soccer vs. Football debate is that a lot of American kids play Soccer either in an organized or unorganized fashion. While (I'm just guessing here) I would imagine very few kids from other countries play American Football at any point in their lives. Probably why there is a general lack of understanding about Football from non-Americans.
Jamesfrom818
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Who?
FindMyFarms
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Why is "manliness" "toughness" etc. etc. such a selling point to yall in non combat sports? Who cares?
If that's what you want go watch MMA. Every single athlete I've seen in this thread (football, rugby, etc. etc.) would look like a god damn pussy next to Fedor Emilianenko.
If you're going to watch a "game" sport, then watch it for the game. That's why I like basketball more than any of the above, it's the most entertaining "game" to watch IMO. I still enjoy American football though.
If that's what you want go watch MMA. Every single athlete I've seen in this thread (football, rugby, etc. etc.) would look like a god damn pussy next to Fedor Emilianenko.
If you're going to watch a "game" sport, then watch it for the game. That's why I like basketball more than any of the above, it's the most entertaining "game" to watch IMO. I still enjoy American football though.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
John Cleese is a groundbreaking individual for being the first British person to ever think up those arguments. I have never heard any british person, ever, say any of those things about American Football. Crazy.darkwings said:
fizzelopeguss
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Turn based vs realtime, which is better?
MisterHero
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it's not football it's futbol
which just sounds silly
which just sounds silly
Mr. B Natural
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Is anyone here actually gonna argue that he's wrong...or is everyone gonna just say "well, i prefer _____ over ____" as if that has anything to do with anything.
American Football has evolved into a capitalistic business sport with commercial breaks and everything. HOW in the world can anyone like that? The game was also never designed to have people in the background directing the entire effing game, but if you gotta wait for such a long time in between plays, you might as well.
Football has lost it. It should play out more like Basketball. Stop and go, but the stops are very very short. There aren't a million people making calls, just a coach and he can only direct a real plan with a timeout. Even still, the plan typically is more improvised as things happen as the action goes on, because the action doesn't stop every 3 seconds.
I agree with Cleese, football needs to be more jazz-like.
American Football has evolved into a capitalistic business sport with commercial breaks and everything. HOW in the world can anyone like that? The game was also never designed to have people in the background directing the entire effing game, but if you gotta wait for such a long time in between plays, you might as well.
Football has lost it. It should play out more like Basketball. Stop and go, but the stops are very very short. There aren't a million people making calls, just a coach and he can only direct a real plan with a timeout. Even still, the plan typically is more improvised as things happen as the action goes on, because the action doesn't stop every 3 seconds.
I agree with Cleese, football needs to be more jazz-like.
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