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'John Wick 3' Brings Back Writer Derek Kolstad

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The ending of chapter 2 was fucking hilariously absurd. I look forward to seeing how they manage to up the stakes.

Just hope it's not as redundant.
 

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Whaat? The ending was amazing.

Winston allowing John to live kind of breaks the rules of the movie world that were established in the first movie. Perkins is immediately killed for doing exactly what John did. Narratively, I also feel that it cheapens John's decision to kill Santino. He knew exactly what the consequence would be and accepted his own death. Going back to his house to look at the burned photo of his wife and wait for his own death was a closing on his character arc. He knew what getting into the car with Charon and going to see Winston meant. It was a fake-out though and the movie broke its own rules to do it.

And I'm betting the filmmakers will know better than to do it twice, so I'm thinking there's a 90% chance that John dies in Chapter 3.

And a little more nitpicky, it kind of dampens all the work that they did to give this movie an old school Hollywood feel only to end with sequel bait.
 

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Winston allowing John to live kind of breaks the rules of the movie world that were established in the first movie. Perkins is immediately killed for doing exactly what John did. Narratively, I also feel that it cheapens John's decision to kill Santino. He knew exactly what the consequence would be and accepted his own death. Going back to his house to look at the burned photo of his wife and wait for his own death was a closing on his character arc. He knew what getting into the car with Charon and going to see Winston meant. It was a fake-out though and the movie broke its own rules to do it.

And I'm betting the filmmakers will know better than to do it twice, so I'm thinking there's a 90% chance that John dies in Chapter 3.

And a little more nitpicky, it kind of dampens all the work that they did to give this movie an old school Hollywood feel only to end with sequel bait.

I think everyone wants to kill John and he's giving them their chance.
 
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This is one action franchise I would love to see another sequel.

Winston allowing John to live kind of breaks the rules of the movie world that were established in the first movie. Perkins is immediately killed for doing exactly what John did. Narratively, I also feel that it cheapens John's decision to kill Santino. He knew exactly what the consequence would be and accepted his own death. Going back to his house to look at the burned photo of his wife and wait for his own death was a closing on his character arc. He knew what getting into the car with Charon and going to see Winston meant. It was a fake-out though and the movie broke its own rules to do it.

It just establishes the extent of Winston's fondness for John, which doesn't break the rules cause at the end, he still orders the hit on John. Giving him a head start is hardly breaking the rules.
 

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This is one action franchise I would love to see another sequel.



It just establishes the extent of Winston's fondness for John, which doesn't break the rules cause at the end, he still orders the hit on John. Giving him a head start is hardly breaking the rules.

Exactly. It was simply a professional courtesy.
 

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I was fine with 1, thought it was OK. 2 adding some world building was my favourite but it turning into a video game where pedestrians don't hear, see or care about anything was a big detraction. Also that really weird gunfight in the subway where they are quietly SHOOTING GUNS at each other while strolling was just not something I liked.

I'm looking forward to JW3: John kills the world though

You clearly have never been to NYC, that shit was the most believable part of the movie
 

Edsmells12345

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The world building in the John Wick movies are incredible.

Can't wait to see what they do with
following John Wick 2's ending
 

Lord Panda

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Saw John Wick 2 and was really surprised they managed to maintain the intensity and focus of the first film and then some. Looking forward to a sequel.

I'd love a crossover between John Wick, Christian Wolff (The Accountant), Jason Bourne, Bryan Mills (Taken), Robert McCall (The Equalizer) against Vincent (Tom Cruise in Collateral).
 

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Saw John Wick 2 and was really surprised they managed to maintain the intensity and focus of the first film and then some. Looking forward to a sequel.

I'd love a crossover between John Wick, Christian Wolff (The Accountant), Jason Bourne, Bryan Mills (Taken), Robert McCall (The Equalizer) against Vincent (Tom Cruise in Collateral).

Got my money on bourne.
 

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I still haven't seen the first one, but this franchise has been coming up more and more... I think it's time.
 

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Just the news I need, Fantastic series and one of my favorite action movies easily.

Loved 2 in theaters and the ending is exactly why it needs 3, they can go anywhere with the 3rd film so I'm really curious to know how they handle it.
 

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Can't wait for John Wick 3! The first two are so good, and in my opinion the best action movies to come out in a very long time. I just hope JW3 will be as good as the first two, if it is, it will be one of my favorite trilogies ever made.
 

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Props to keeping the creative team intact, especially because the world building and lore within John Wick is one of the key characteristics that gives those films their unique identity.

I always wondered how writers go about writing set piece action fights in terms of direction for the screen and how much input they actually have
Derek Kolstad has gone on to say in interviews regarding this question that he writes in more fleshed out details for the action because he knows from working with Keanu, the directors, and stunt team that they'll refine and work the material throughout the rehearsal and blocking in pre-production.
 

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Keanu is a serious contender for greatest action star of all time. 2 felt like the same movie at times, but the action sequences are so good I don't care. As long as Keanu keeps doing shit like this they can make as many movies as they want.

He's only been in 4 good action movies. Speed, matrix and the John wicks. Getting a little ahead of yourself.
 

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He's only been in 4 good action movies. Speed, matrix and the John wicks. Getting a little ahead of yourself.

Compare those movies with most other shit action movies featuring the same actor that get released and that's actually a decent track record.
 

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End it strong with 3. Don't let it run long in the tooth with countless sequels.
 

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I adored both movies, but the second was noticeably more cartoonish and self-referential (showing Wick killing someone with a pencil, for instance). While that worked fine for the most part and added some fantastic visual humour, I hope they don't lean any further into it than they currently are. This sort of material can become a pastiche of itself very easily, and while the Wickiverse is definitely fertile grounds for humour, the writers have to be careful not to slip into seemingly pleased with themselves or camp. Wick 2 got the balance just about right, at times going slightly over the line, but only just. If Wick 3 can keep its head and the material fresh, it'll easily make up one of the great action movie trilogies.
 

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chapter 2 was weird, like none of the pedestrians noticed or cared about multiple people dying and shooting at eachother?
 

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I adored both movies, but the second was noticeably more cartoonish and self-referential (showing Wick killing someone with a pencil, for instance). While that worked fine for the most part and added some fantastic visual humour, I hope they don't lean any further into it than they currently are. This sort of material can become a pastiche of itself very easily, and while the Wickiverse is definitely fertile grounds for humour, the writers have to be careful not to slip into seemingly pleased with themselves or camp. Wick 2 got the balance just about right, at times going slightly over the line, but only just. If Wick 3 can keep its head and the material fresh, it'll easily make up one of the great action movie trilogies.

The pencil represents the fact that anything is s weapon around wick. Where is the humor coming from?

I keep thinking people are missing the fact that wick 2 is him in his form as compared to him being rusty and coming out of retirement in 1.

Based off 2's ending I'm expecting him to use every piece of his arsenal so the action may very well be even more brutal.
 

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After JW2's ending, I am ready.

It was one of the few sequels that deepened its universe and I look forward to them fleshing it out further and delivering on it.
 

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This is one action franchise I would love to see another sequel.



It just establishes the extent of Winston's fondness for John, which doesn't break the rules cause at the end, he still orders the hit on John. Giving him a head start is hardly breaking the rules.

All the rules said that Winston had to do was
Excommunicado John. And he did. He just gave him an hour. The contract on John's life still exists.
His choice to do what he did in the first movie was just a different sentence.
 

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The pencil represents the fact that anything is s weapon around wick. Where is the humor coming from?

I keep thinking people are missing the fact that wick 2 is him in his form as compared to him being rusty and coming out of retirement in 1.

Based off 2's ending I'm expecting him to use every piece of his arsenal so the action may very well be even more brutal.

The humor comes from it being a callback to the first movie.