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Joss Whedon's Dollhouse-The Official Thread
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FUCKKauza said:Interesting thing mentioned by Felicia Day today about the status of Dollhouse:
"Man, day getting worse and worse. Found out my Dollhouse ep, #13 isn't gonna air. Only on DVD. Such a great part too. Thx Fox."
Sounding like the show is 100% canceled? I thought they said that all episodes this season would indeed air? And does that mean that Felicia won't actually appear in that 10th episode? The confusion is unending.
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Odious Tea
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Fuck.
Any news on Whedon's next project?
Any news on Whedon's next project?
Mercury Fred
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Not necessarily.GDJustin said:
A few things:
-The final episode looked like an epilogue to the season (a la Buffy's season 4 dream ep).
-The quick release of the DVD set could signal that Fox is actually going to renew and wants to help build an audience this route.
-Lopping off episode 13, the non-finale finale could just be a way to encourage DVD sales.
Anyway, it's not looking great, but I do think there's still a chance.
Oh and a side note, why the fuck isn't Fox advertising this? I watched Fringe and a bit of American Idol this week and saw tons of spots for Glee and Prison Break but nothing for DH
Because they're cancelling it. :/Mercury Fred said:Oh and a side note, why the fuck isn't Fox advertising this? I watched Fringe and a bit of American Idol this week and saw tons of spots for Glee and Prison Break but nothing for DH
Can't wait for dead souls to run up in this thread and gloat. That's going to be awesome.
Moneyhats2k5
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Sweet, I can free up some time on Fridays now. Smackdown and Flashpoint ftw! 
I think it's most likely going to get canceled but I do appreciate there being people that aren't scaremongering. Scaremongering is so easy hope is where it's at.Mercury Fred said:Not necessarily.
A few things:
-The final episode looked like an epilogue to the season (a la Buffy's season 4 dream ep).
-The quick release of the DVD set could signal that Fox is actually going to renew and wants to help build an audience this route.
-Lopping off episode 13, the non-finale finale could just be a way to encourage DVD sales.
Anyway, it's not looking great, but I do think there's still a chance.
Oh and a side note, why the fuck isn't Fox advertising this? I watched Fringe and a bit of American Idol this week and saw tons of spots for Glee and Prison Break but nothing for DH
Mercury Fred said:Not necessarily.
A few things:
-The final episode looked like an epilogue to the season (a la Buffy's season 4 dream ep).
-The quick release of the DVD set could signal that Fox is actually going to renew and wants to help build an audience this route.
-Lopping off episode 13, the non-finale finale could just be a way to encourage DVD sales.
Anyway, it's not looking great, but I do think there's still a chance.
Oh and a side note, why the fuck isn't Fox advertising this? I watched Fringe and a bit of American Idol this week and saw tons of spots for Glee and Prison Break but nothing for DH
Dude, it's done. You don't not air an ep of a show you're going to renew. Plus... no one is watching it. Fringe is viewed by 2.5X as many people as DH. Even Castle on ABC has 2-3X the viewers.
DH ep 8 was the lowest ratings yet, to boot. If the show was small but BUILDING, then it would have a shot. Or if it were small but critically acclaimed, it would have a shot. DH is neither.
Eh, let's not jump to conclusions here. Mercury Fred is making very valid points. Why would they just decide to not show the final episode if it were canceled? They would take it off the schedule like now. Not let the next 5 episodes air then not air the final one.
No, it's not looking good, but I'd wait for a bit more confirmation than that. That just sounds weird.
Also, GDJustin, you can't compare DH ratings to Fringe. Friday is a huge factor.
No, it's not looking good, but I'd wait for a bit more confirmation than that. That just sounds weird.
Also, GDJustin, you can't compare DH ratings to Fringe. Friday is a huge factor.
GoutPatrol
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Well this is a fucking punch in the gut.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/08/dollhouse-only-getting-12-episodes-aired/16334
Fox's schedule does list #12 as the finale, which means they won't be airing #13. But then why would they list it as a season finale, rather than series?
Fox's schedule does list #12 as the finale, which means they won't be airing #13. But then why would they list it as a season finale, rather than series?
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/04/dollhouse-13th14th-episode-in-limbo.htmlAs mentioned before, I'm on Twitter and I'm slowly trying to get the hang of the place -- not just what sorts of things I want to post, but how news gets disseminated in 140 characters or less.
Earlier today, Felicia Day (Penny from "Dr. Horrible") tweeted this:
Man, day getting worse and worse. Found out my Dollhouse ep, #13 isn't gonna air. Only on DVD. Such a great part too. Thx Fox.
This set the greater Twitter-verse -- not to mention ancillary Joss Whedon fansites -- ablaze with speculation about what this might mean for the future of "Dollhouse." As I've been able to gather so far, maybe it doesn't mean much, which I'll explain after the jump...
Long story short, because this is convoluted: Fox network ordered 13 episodes of the show. Joss Whedon shot a pilot, and then the pilot was scrapped in favor of a new pilot, but for contractual purposes, that unaired pilot counted as part of the 13-episode order -- which means Fox only had 12 episodes to deal with. Eight of those have aired, and four more are still to come, all of which have been scheduled, with the last of those -- with the very finale-ish title of "Omega" -- set to air May 8.
Day's episode, called "Epitaph One," was apparently filmed by the studio independent of the agreement -- or, at least, independent of what Fox network considers to be in the agreement -- and does not seem to be tied in to the story in "Omega." In other words, if there's a cliffhanger in "Omega" (and I don't know if there is), it's not going to be resolved in "Epitaph One."
Fox network won't decide the fate of "Dollhouse" until Upfront week, near the end of May, and the decision not to air "Epitaph One" has nothing whatsoever to do with renewal. It's unclear whether "Epitaph One" will turn up as a bonus on the season one DVD, or on Hulu, or even if it might be a bonus episode for a hypothetical season two. All I know for now is that it's not going to air on Fox as part of the first season run of "Dollhouse."
Does that all make sense?
Cornballer
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Heh, I was in the process of posting that, Costanza.
Good to hear the clarification from Sepinwall.
Good to hear the clarification from Sepinwall.
Makes sense... sorta. I don't like the sound of that stuff about what Fox considers part of the agreement. That makes it sound like maybe they've rewritten history, like when Disney decided Toy Story 2 didn't count towards their deal with Pixar.
TrAcEr_x90
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Ive learned my lesson for a joss whedon show. Im a big fan so I was set on watching this series from the start. I watched it on hulu because I had to always miss the friday showing. Show started off slow but has really gotten awesome these past few episodes. I just feel jipped if its canceled. I should have just waited to see if there would be a second season and then watch it. I could have devoted that watching time to the wire which im about to start.
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Costanza said:
ivysaur12 said:
Lemme ask you this - if Fox liked the show, why WOULDN'T they air the ep? Whether DH gets renewed or not (and I concede that I now believe it's more possible than I did this morning), this is still terribly negative news.
DH: Hey Fox, we have another episode for you to air! Sweet, right?
Fox: Eh. Thanks but no thanks.
Yeah, it's a real show of faith in the show...
BenjaminBirdie
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GDJustin said:
Because they schedule television months in advance and in accordance with number of episodes they ordered?
BenjaminBirdie
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GDJustin said:They ordered 13 episodes and are airing 12
It sounded like they ordered 13 and Whedon shot 14.
Cornballer
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Can I put my gun down now? Because it's so heavy.
Cornballer
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Here's the math. (Episode summaries via that link, btw, so there are some spoilers).GDJustin said:I must be confused, I guess.
Kristin @ E!Online said:
12 episodes are set to air. Fox ultimately order 13, one way or another.
Well, even if Fox has faith in the show they may not see it as beneficial to air another episode after the plot-relevant finale. It may make more financial sense to air something else on Friday and save the episode for home video. And it's possible the episode wouldn't make sense to lead off a potential season 2, or to even be thrown in amidst other season 2 episodes.GDJustin said:
Cornballer
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I'm not saying anything. You asked for information and I provided it.GDJustin said:
anaron said:
I hope that Victor's handler doesn't show up again. She's a horrible actress. Really though, Dushku doesn't bother me at all. She's not amazing, but she's not bad either.
And I wonder if female handlers are partnered with male actives, and female actives are partnered with male handlers?
BuckRobotron
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I also have no problem with Dushku, she is generally doing well with what she is given. The episode in which she was functionally blind for the cult infiltration for instance could have fallen completely apart without competent acting to support it.
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