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Kanye West Splits From Jay Z's Tidal (Tidal To Sue Kanye For Breach Of Contract)
- Thread starter Jasper
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Doesnt seem like they have been in much contact post WTT anyway, Jay/Bey distancing themselves from Ye/Kim.
There arent many reasons to skip a friends wedding...thats if you consider the person a true friend.
Jay put Kanye on, true - and Ye has repaid him back like 10x of that over the last years, for him to let it get this far with the Tidal BS is a bad look.
Kayne played jay z for fame and even beat him in some areas.
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
Good for Kanye, Blueprint 2 was trash
Bounceounce
Member
I know that Damon Dash fired some of Jay's people without consent and I know that Dame Dash burned bridges with his attitude (but his attitude was integral towards the Roc's success), I know that Dame had bad money habits and I know that Dame was the only Rocafella exec accused of thieving from people not Jay and Biggs (even from the people who were currently beefing with Jay), and I know that acting as though Dame Dash was some righteous martry is absolutely ridiculous when the Rocafella conflict was a two way street.
Though of course it's always easy to paint Jay as the villain.
ftfy
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BAAAALLLINNN'
Who gives a crap, isn't Kanye's discography on Spotify anyway except for WTT?
Bounceounce
Member
The relationship has always been more skewed towards Kanye's side, who's seemed desperate to force himself into Jay's highest circle of friends, but to act as though the relationship wasn't ever more than that is absurd, its hard to juggle a volatile person like Kanye.
People act like Jay hadn't stood up for Kanyes behavior in the media many times.
Nothing about anyone being anything.
They both helped each other out till this day, anyone acting as though one didn't need the other or minimising one's role is being a fool on either side.
Public Service announcement:
Jay Z was the person who introduced Kanye to Coldplay, he literally handed them the phone, and is still close friend with Chris Martin to this day.
That Big Brother line is nonsense.
Oh and Jay gave Kanye tickets to MSG, four tickets but Kanye wanted two more and they wanted him to pay for those two which is what he mentioned on the song.
IMO it was the other way round
Ye is unbelievable talent that made Jay and his company alot of money, he was always going to be a star with or without Jay.
Bounceounce
Member
Oh and if Jay's in the wrong he should pay up on this, I've made no statement on that.
Bounceounce
Member
In my opinion it's absurd to try and claim anyone would have been anything without any semblance of a certain thing.
That's as silly as saying "Jay would have been Jay regardless of had he linked up with Dame Dash" or "Dame would have been Dame without linking up with Jay and Biggs" and every variation of that.
Kanye being on The Roc is one if the reasons he's where he is today, period, and it was just as beneficial to him as Kanye was to Jay in the post-retirement era.
Only took 23 posts for Trump to get pulled into this. We're slipping.
theignoramus
Member
Jayz loaned Kanye 20 million dollars for his fashion adventures , what do you mean "exploit Kanye"? Kanyes been living off the fat of the land.
theignoramus
Member
How can anyone side with Kanye by default after the "HOW SWAY!!!!! " interview. He's been on some megalomaniac nut shit and I say that as a fan.
That applies more to Kanye tbh.
Sweeney Tom
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Add it to the L pile that comprises tidaL at this point
WhateverItTakes
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Pablo is on Spotify now but it took a while. 6 months exclusivity I think?
oneils
Member
Ah ok, thanks. I'm pretty slow with music so I guess that explains it.
Oh there will be ways ppl will defend Kanye. Afterall some ppl think Jay owes his career to Kanye.
blame space
Banned
when his voice cracks "real families stay together and see through the mirage" 😢
Very childish of him, he's a grown man and if he has issues with his so called friend, he should have just talked to him about it. Shame Solange didn't pull his nose out of his face when he cheated.
Bounceounce
Member
It wasn't much of a diss, it was more of a confession on a confession track.
But yes, still ill advised.
ElfArmy177
Member
Uh translation?
Fuck Kanye, tbh. Homeboy fell hard, and his fanbase is an absolute mess at this point. Was the butt of so many jokes for so long, on Black Twitter. Hope he gets the help he needs, cause he needs help.
As far as this Tidal mess is concerned, I was never a fan of the service to begin with. And I'm tired of the exclusivity on streaming apps, let a nigga listen to art, gahdamnit.
As far as this Tidal mess is concerned, I was never a fan of the service to begin with. And I'm tired of the exclusivity on streaming apps, let a nigga listen to art, gahdamnit.
JrBaconCheeseburger
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CassidyIzABeast
Member
Stans be wildin. Jay Z was a star like 3 whole albums before Blueprint.
Sounds like Jay is in the wrong. Easy to side with Jay, because Kanye is on some perpetual fuckshit. But given what we know, Kanye should get that bonus. I'm sure there's a lot more behind the scenes, but ima just say I'm looking forward to Kanye next album now and I'm not really a fan of his last 2 outings.
It's weird because the best aspects of Blueprint, the lack of skits and its expert sequencing, isn't something Kanye himself wouldn't attempt until graduation...
Shadowhelper
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Well, maybe. But that tidal crap wasn't because of tidal itself in anyway, that was just Kanye obviously in the midst of a mental breakdown. People assumed in a ground breaking manner we were witnessing the creative process.
Also why the insults on 444 were a bit harsh because he's criticising the incident where Kanye had a breakdown and then went to and got medical care.
But overall, its kinda impossible to say who is in the wrong. Ye might be the one being difficult. Maybe Jay could just let Kanye go from Tidal, doesn't seem like he'd lose too much, but Jay is known to be obsessed with making profits.
Vicetrailia
Member
When doing business with your friends and family goes wrong.
jay's always been a bit parasitic with his relationships. not really a surprise to anyone thats been following him for a while to see kanye fall into the same situation as a lot of others. dame/beens/cam/pretty much anyone in rocafella early on.
jay passed on kanye early on only to suddenly become his bff after kanye blew up. its so obvious he was just jumping on the hottest artist in the game who had an infatuation with him.
jay passed on kanye early on only to suddenly become his bff after kanye blew up. its so obvious he was just jumping on the hottest artist in the game who had an infatuation with him.
breakfuss
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Nah I think it's always been a symbiotic type of thing. They both equally benefited. And tons of people passed on Kanye. Can't say I really blame them for initially not seeing that potential, he's grown tremendously from his earlier work.
WaffleTaco
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Jay Z has never liked Kanye and has always used him. Good for Kanye finally coming to his senses, he was never your friend.