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Killer Instinct on W10 framerate tied to monitor refresh - with 144hz it's unplayable
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yup
When the game's update rate is tied to the monitor's update rate, yeah, it is.
Muskieratboi
Member
I'm aware he shouldn't have to. But it's a very minor annoyance compared to some of the other shit that UWP apps have had, and is probably a minor oversight that will likely be fixed very soon.
It's the way the guy in the video is acting that annoys me. He's treating it like an impossible to surmount obstacle when he could fix it in 30 seconds on his own while IG work on the framelimiter.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I Have the exact same monitor. I doubt this is an easy fix, but its not like you cant run the montior at 60hz to play for now.
abracadaver
Member
How is street fighter v doing 144hz support? Isn't SFV game logic also tied to 60 frames
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Wait so every game played on the pc on these monitors can only run at 30FPS? Ewwwwww, with that you can never play ranked on here because you need a constant 60 FPS.
Plus how do you get other fighting games like Street Fighter 5 and others to run when their logic is also tied to 60FPS?
a game you bought for $0 ??
Maintenance
Member
Microsoft fucked up another PC launch?
Loving the overractions in here.
I guess they put on a hard cap on animations and timing, like it should be. Seems like an oversight from IG but hopefully the fix comes fast.
I guess they put on a hard cap on animations and timing, like it should be. Seems like an oversight from IG but hopefully the fix comes fast.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Except you can buy the full priced edition too.
I am still hoping that sales flop so horribly that they will be forced to put it on Steam.
The game is NOT a DX12 game, it runs on DX11, so there is no reason it shouldn't be outside of the Win10 store outside of MS attempt to force ppl to go there.
As much as I want this game, I will NOT buy, I will NOT give in.... Dark Souls 3 is coming, it will suck up MUCHES of my limited time...
The game is NOT a DX12 game, it runs on DX11, so there is no reason it shouldn't be outside of the Win10 store outside of MS attempt to force ppl to go there.
As much as I want this game, I will NOT buy, I will NOT give in.... Dark Souls 3 is coming, it will suck up MUCHES of my limited time...
Sword Of Doom
Member
Is that possible with UWP apps?
The rate that game logic processing, rendering, and monitor refresh happen are all different. Ideally, game logic should happen completely independent of the other two.
Oh so expecting any standards at all from f2p games is unacceptable now?
An internal cap like the other 95 percent of 60 capped games.
Very few games tie game logic to refresh rate.
It's kind of baffling this made it past QA.
Personally I have a HRF monitor that can switch between 60-120-144 with a button push so it's not a big hassle for me, but not a lot of monitors will have that sort of button.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Microsoft's legendary dedication to PC gaming continues.
StrikeFirst117
Banned
If the game doesn't sell well that's the end of the franchise, it will become dead again for who knows how many years.
It's limited to 30hz on 4k and 60hz on 1080p. I rarely game on PC so this hasn't really been an issue for me until Killer Instinct.
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Ok thanks for answering, IG said they are looking into it so we'll how long the fix takes them to implement.
The Faceless Master
Member
Microsoft!
something about history and repeating and doom.
they have tons of practice from their mobile platform....
something about history and repeating and doom.
they have tons of practice from their mobile platform....
cripterion
Member
Also is why the fuck is this game 30GB+? Are there cinematics in there I don't know about?
Xbox One version is updating hogging all my bandwidth and the update seems sizeable, might as well take that shit off.
Xbox One version is updating hogging all my bandwidth and the update seems sizeable, might as well take that shit off.
RaySpencer
Member
It being on the windows store allows them to make it cross buy since it is all under the same account. Im sure it also makes the cross platform multiplayer much easier as well since you would need to connect to xbox live.
Try it before you buy it. In fact, you can only buy bundles from in-game store
You can just move to another game. You're entitled to nothing if you haven't paid.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Watch this bug to be fixed as soon as possible somehow, especially since the game seems to have no problems otherwise.
I experienced this earlier with my 144hz enabled but I just switched it to 60.
They are going to fix it. I'm not enraged.
They are going to fix it. I'm not enraged.
Relevant!
jizzlobber
Member
Stop being positive... This is an outrage, dammit!!!
Tell that to the community of pretty much every f2p game, and they'll laugh you out.
toastyToast
Member
I'm sure they can make it so the game doesn't go faster once it goes beyond 60fps. Lots of games do that
This wouldn't be much of a problem without UWP. In that case, I'd just limit the frame rate myself, using Rivatuner. Microsoft proprietary container format is fucking things up.
Muskieratboi
Member
I'd like to reiterate my previous rant, as I see that some people didn't quite get what I meant.
My issue is not with the fact that there is a problem with KI on High-refresh-rate monitors. it's an oversight that should be, and likely will be quickly rectified.
My issue is with people acting like little shits while they're complaining about a comparatively tiny problem that can be fixed with a temporary workaround, that can be slightly annoying, but is ridiculously simple compared to some other PC fixes i've seen.
Mountains out of molehills, is what i'm sayin' here. It's not like we need Durante. Chill, guys.
My issue is not with the fact that there is a problem with KI on High-refresh-rate monitors. it's an oversight that should be, and likely will be quickly rectified.
My issue is with people acting like little shits while they're complaining about a comparatively tiny problem that can be fixed with a temporary workaround, that can be slightly annoying, but is ridiculously simple compared to some other PC fixes i've seen.
Mountains out of molehills, is what i'm sayin' here. It's not like we need Durante. Chill, guys.
A defense force for everything. Amazing.
Tizoc
Member
One wonders if it not being uwp would allow for a temporary fix
Not mountains out of molehills. Another demonstration of the inherent problems UWP brings.
It absolutely would (Rivatuner framerate cap)
cripterion
Member
A dumb question that you could just post in the OT.Just asking a question, feel free to ignore it if bothers you
nah, tahts usually due to hdmi.
the older hdmi ports and DVI cant provide 60hz at 4k resolution.
Try connecting it with displayport or hdmi 2.0
GhostTrick
Banned
Eh, who needs 3rd party things anyway, it's just for PC enthusiasts. Plus, let's remember how UWA means no more broken ports, amirite ? :")
I think you're missing the point about why people are reacting this way. It's not about this game. It's not about this issue. It's about history and a decade of broken promises. What people see is a trend. Exclusive marketplaces, game after game with numerous issues. This problem might be fixed within the week. The real trouble is that if this exists as a headline, it reinforces that Microsoft has failed yet again to deliver at even a competent level on PC.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Probably an unforeseen consequence of the latter and most desktop users setting things to "highest it can go" on the desktop.
Well, this is a fighting game, so there's a reason to tie the game logic to a fixed rate. Though one would suspect that they could at the very least run the video part separately... perhaps the bug fix will do exactly that?
Alx
Member
That's what I was thinking too, unless all other UWP games also run at higher speed on 144Hz monitors... The game would probably have had the same issue if it was released as a regular PC software.
The only way things like this get fixed is if people actually complain about said issues. That's how devs notice issues and spend the time and money to implement them. That's how we make our concerns with UWP heard by Microsoft so they work to improve the platform.
So far not a single UWP game has launched without some technical issue.
Muskieratboi
Member
I agree whole-heartedly. but leave the pitchforks for GoW Ultimate or the absolute clusterfuck Quantum break is going to be, instead of a minor frame pacing oversight.
Also not saying you shouldn't complain! In fact, this thread is exactly what I think needs to have happened. My complaint is with the video in the OP, and the absolutely childish way that the person in that video acted. IG(Hell, ANY dev) doesn't need that.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Given that this technical issue appears to affect only those with high-refresh monitors, one does wonder if the testing team didn't have any such monitors...
cripterion
Member
Oh I'm sorry. Could you get off your high horse enlighten me on why the game takes so much disk space then?
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