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Zen said:
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The ISA invasion fleet is pretty much wiped out, with the remnants of their carrier groups being taken out up by the returning Helghast Battlegroup. ISA Vekta doesn't have any other resources to launch a campaign against Helghan.

Needless Civilian casualties? The entire City where the ISA/Helghast operation happened was evacuated before the ISA even got there. Read the timeline and pay attention people. :lol

The ISA wanted to remove Visari from leadership, or make him co-operate with the rest of mankind as oppose to starving half the colonies of much needed supplies.
Either way they wanted to install a new government, bringing Helghan back under UCA control following Helghans renewed aggression against Earth and any other colony that got in their way.

Would it have worked? Debatable. Keep in mind that Visari was insanely popular with his people, mostly because he was promising them a return to glory, and the blood of those who wronged them, innocent and non innocent alike.

It's like people are frantically grasping at straws to prop up a pro Helghast argument without actually paying much attention to the established cannon of the universe. :lol



It wouldn't be happening if people weren't saying 'these people have cool outfits so I want to help them kill billions of people in cold blood!' :lol

Like I said, scary.

Ugh, dude, chill, it's just a video game. And wishing to wear Helghast attire is not 'scary', once again, it's just a video game. Moreover, nothing you mentioned refutes my proposition. ISA could bring back-up, the battle could move to a civilian-occupied area, ect. It sounds like more than anything, you just wish to brag about your killzone superior knowledge. :lol
 
cnizzle06 said:
Ugh, dude, chill, it's just a video game. And wishing to wear Helghast attire is not 'scary', once again, it's just a video game. Moreover, nothing you mentioned refutes my proposition. ISA could bring back-up, the battle could move to a civilian-occupied area, ect. It sounds like more than anything, you just wish to brag about your killzone superior knowledge. :lol

Then at least be honest about it instead of finding ways to try and make your argument appear outwardly reasonable. :lol

Actually your proposition was refuted :confused: Sure the story could go in a different direction, things could happen, yadda ydda, but those things haven't happened yet, and the argument for being pro Helghast is centered around what has happened, not what might.

It's not like I bust out the 'I've read the timeline' stuff for everything Killzone. It's just when this particular, silly, argument comes up. :lol

And yeah, people legitimately wanting a hand in a fictional genocide is still a little weird.

Metalmurphy said:
lol... no he wasn't.


He posted something about MLB The Show in a totally unrelated thread and mods got tired of his "viral".

IIRC

Ohhh, the heck? I'd heard that he was Snah. Good to know that he wasn't.
 
IronFistedChampion said:
I hope Sev putting on the HGH helmet at the very least indicates that we'll get a stealth mission of some sort. :D

Avatar quote? Too easy. And yeah, I'm sure it means just that but a guy can dream.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up wearing some Helghast stuff here or there for breathing purposes. I was actually thinking that Killzone 3 would have the ISA and Helghast joining forces to repel the UCA from asserting direct control over the system outright, but that doesn't sound like the direction they're going with it.
 
How the hell long has Sev been on Helghan? He looks like shit and has grown a decent size beard.

Undercover missions would rock. Definitely hoping they ace the storyline this time. I did like Sev as a protagonist even if he wasn't fully developed. Also, I hope Brian Cox comes back in some fasion, even as a narrator for the story.

Badass trailer. I've heard that Inglourious Basterds comparison... as long as it ain't 45 minutes of French followed up by five minutes of action, I'll be happy. Sev behind enemy lines racking up a big body count will rock.

Is it possible for Rico to be redeemed?

Ha, hell no. It'll take a miracle for most people to like that guy.

Delving into Helghan culture and blending into civilian populations oughta be really interesting.

Edit:

Just thought of this... if they have an ending where they accidentally kill Sev because he's wearing Helghast gear, that will be the worst ending ever.
 
Zen said:
Then at least be honest about it instead of finding ways to try and make your argument appear outwardly reasonable. :lol

Actually your proposition was refuted :confused: Sure the story could go in a different direction, things could happen, yadda ydda, but those things haven't happened yet, and the argument for being pro Helghast is centered around what has happened, not what might.

It's not like I bust out the 'I've read the timeline' stuff for everything Killzone. It's just when this particular, silly, argument comes up. :lol



Ohhh, the heck? I'd heard that he was Snah. Good to know that he wasn't.

Ha, you're trying hard man, but I never mentioned that I had a desire to switch teams just as a means to wear a Helghast uniform. I'm simply pointing out that you're silly to claim people have scary mentalities because they wish to wear one when their damn fictional backstory involves genocide :lol And I'm throwing out a hypothetical situation. Don't tell me I can't because it hasn't happened yet. That's the damn meaning of something being hypothetical. :lol
 
Zen said:
That's a convenient distinction to draw. I'm all for no one murdering Civilians, but that's a heck of a lot different than switching sides like everyone keeps saying.
I think when people say 'switching sides' they mean going against the ISA and getting them the fuck off of helghan. Hell I hope the helghast invade Vekta again at the end of this game, but ex-ISA at the head of the front. For all we know Earth and Vekta wanted ISA to strike Helghan not only to clean it out of Vasari and his 'propaganda' but to claim large parts of the planet for resources as well. It was pretty prevalent that the head ISA didn't give much of a shit about the actual squad/the mission they embarked on, even Rico was bright enough to realize it.

In the end it's just a video game, people want to be the helghast because throughout the series they have been the sort of enemy that isn't all out evil, and have hints of humanity and an oppressed people.
 
major_killjoy said:
Sev succumbing to the effects of lungburn would be depressing in a foxdie-ish sort of way. : (
I'm with you there. I actually got attached to Sev. He and Garza were the only characters in Killzone 2 I liked.
 
MoonsaultSlayer said:
Two campaigns, two sides.... FIGHT!!!

I 'd love that.
That would make KZ3 the new GT5. :lol It would be better if they make it like inFamous. Two endings; stay as ISA soldier for " SCUM " ending, join HELGHAST for " LEGEND " ending.
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
Undercover missions would rock. Definitely hoping they ace the storyline this time. I did like Sev as a protagonist even if he wasn't fully developed. Also, I hope Brian Cox comes back in some fasion, even as a narrator for the story.
Yeah, I really hope Brian Cox has some kind of role, either in speeches being played throughout helghan (especially civilian areas) or just narrating the story and possibly even touching on some of the history. How awesome would it be for him to narrate stuff and then at the very end weave him into what's going on on the ground, and show that he's still alive. :D Probably not though..

Zen said:
I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up wearing some Helghast stuff here or there for breathing purposes. I was actually thinking that Killzone 3 would have the ISA and Helghast joining forces to repel the UCA from asserting direct control over the system outright, but that doesn't sound like the direction they're going with it.
That would be pretty cool, but it won't happen just yet. Not enough people even know what the UCA is, so i'm hoping earth etc is introduced in this game a bit.

I want this to be about the Vektan/ISA/Helghast conflict, and getting that settled one way or another, and THEN going back to the source (Earth/UCA).

After all, the ISA/Vekta is under UCA orders, hell they don't even have top of the line equipment as what's back on Earth IIRC.
 
I'd like to see some actual civillians integrated into the storyline. Maybe they can explain why they all conveniently disappeared from the cities
 
JardeL said:
That would make KZ3 the new GT5. :lol It would be better if they make it like inFamous. Two endings; stay as ISA soldier for " SCUM " ending, join HELGHAST for " LEGEND " ending.

Disinterested translator confirmed. The Helghast are such an iconic group. I would love to fight along side them.
 
cnizzle06 said:
Ha, you're trying hard man, but I never mentioned that I had a desire to switch teams just as a means to wear a Helghast uniform. I'm simply pointing out that you're silly to claim people have scary mentalities because they wish to wear one when their damn fictional backstory involves genocide :lol And I'm throwing out a hypothetical situation. Don't tell me I can't because it hasn't happened yet. That's the damn meaning of something being hypothetical. :lol

Ha, you're trying hard man, but I never said that you specifically were making that argument. (in fact, I made sure that I wasn't alluding to you specifically when I said it)

Hey, if you think it's silly to think it's weird that there are players out there would be gung ho to support genocide, in a fictional setting, more power to you; at the end of the day it doesn't matter. Personally I'd take pause before dreaming that I was aiding in the deaths of billions of innocent people, but whatever. It's not like I don't play as the Helghast in MP 50% of the time, it's just completely different when someone is sitting there hoping that the story ends with the Helghast winning and they were pulling the trigger to make it happen.
 
Yoboman said:
I'd like to see some actual civillians integrated into the storyline. Maybe they can explain why they all conveniently disappeared from the cities

I thought they did explain that? Something about Visari evacuating the cities to prevent civilian casualties.
 
Sentry said:
Yeah, I really hope Brian Cox has some kind of role, either in speeches being played throughout helghan (especially civilian areas) or just narrating the story and possibly even touching on some of the history. How awesome would it be for him to narrate stuff and then at the very end weave him into what's going on on the ground, and show that he's still alive. :D Probably not though..


That would be pretty cool, but it won't happen just yet. Not enough people even know what the UCA is, so i'm hoping earth etc is introduced in this game a bit.

I want this to be about the Vektan/ISA/Helghast conflict, and getting that settled one way or another, and THEN going back to the source (Earth/UCA).

After all, the ISA/Vekta is under UCA orders, hell they don't even have top of the line equipment as what's back on Earth IIRC.

Heck, they didn't even have the capability to strike at Helghan until the UCA gave them outdated carriers. It's probably too early to introduce the UCA as potential big bads. I'm really happy that they're apparently focusing on Helghast culture in Killzone 3. I want the Helghast to be made more than monstache twirling villains, and I'd sort of like it if we see Hakah organizing a revolution on Helghan, or something.
 
Zen said:
Ha, you're trying hard man, but I never said that you specifically were making that argument.

Hey, if you think it's silly to think it's weird that there are players out there would be gung ho to support genocide, in a fictional setting, more power to you; at the end of the day it doesn't matter. Personally I'd take pause before dreaming that I was aiding in the deaths of billions of innocent people, but whatever. It's not like I don't play as the Helghast in MP 50% of the time, it's just completely different when someone is sitting there hoping that the story ends with the Helghast winning and they were pulling the trigger to make it happen.

No one is supporting genocide here man.:lol You're just putting words in the mouths of those who wish to play as a Helghast. Stop being so crazy. :lol I appreciate your passion for the killzone universe, but most of us just wanna play on their side because they're cool and iconic and are fed up with the arrogance of the ISA, not because we <3 Nazis.
 
Ok I know I'm LTTP on this. But WOW I realize the trailer was clearly pre-renered (looked like in-engine assets though) but holy shit at the concepts they were showing off in this teaser. New Melee combos look awesome. An even grizzlier looking Sev. Disguise yourself as a Helghast? I'm officially hyped to KZ2 levels. Can't wait to see more of this thing.
 
cnizzle06 said:
No one is supporting genocide here man.:lol You're just putting words in the mouths of those who wish to play as a Helghast. Stop being so crazy. :lol I appreciate your passion for the killzone universe, but most of us just wanna play on their side because they're cool and iconic and are fed up with the arrogance of the ISA, not because we <3 Nazis.
More power to you.
 
Zen said:
Heck, they didn't even have the capability to strike at Helghan until the UCA gave them outdated carriers. It's probably too early to introduce the UCA as potential big bads. I'm really happy that they're apparently focusing on Helghast culture in Killzone 3. I want the Helghast to be made more than monstache twirling villains, and I'd sort of like it if we see Hakah organizing a revolution on Helghan, or something.
Dude, that's exactly what I want. Opposing Helghan factions were touched upon briefly, It would be so awesome if Hakah came back and organised them into a proper force and Sev joins them.
 
Yoboman said:
I'd like to see some actual civillians integrated into the storyline. Maybe they can explain why they all conveniently disappeared from the cities

They were evacuated to another city called Konstantin. *beaten*
 
Zen said:
Heck, they didn't even have the capability to strike at Helghan until the UCA gave them outdated carriers. It's probably too early to introduce the UCA as potential big bads. I'm really happy that they're apparently focusing on Helghast culture in Killzone 3. I want the Helghast to be made more than monstache twirling villains, and I'd sort of like it if we see Hakah organizing a revolution on Helghan, or something.
Well apparently there are several leaders or parties trying to reclaim the throne that Vasari left behind, but i'm we don't know if they're all ex-military war lords or the charismatic political type.

Either way I hope the civilians of Helghan are disjointed and we get to see that.
 
Sentry said:
Well apparently there are several leaders or parties trying to reclaim the throne that Vasari left behind, but i'm we don't know if they're all ex-military war lords or the charismatic political type.

Either way I hope the civilians of Helghan are disjointed and we get to see that.
Visari is still alive :O
 
Sentry said:
Well apparently there are several leaders or parties trying to reclaim the throne that Vasari left behind, but i'm we don't know if they're all ex-military war lords or the charismatic political type.

Either way I hope the civilians of Helghan are disjointed and we get to see that.

I sure hope so, they let me down so hard with how narrow the scope of Killzone 2 was, I wasnted to see civilians, darnit! :lol

Shaka said:
Dude, that's exactly what I want. Opposing Helghan factions were touched upon briefly, It would be so awesome if Hakah came back and organised them into a proper force and Sev joins them.

Hakah was pretty awesome, it would be interesting to see the rest of Templar's former squad reacting to his death.

theignoramus said:
what the fuck is that song playing in the background of the trailer? Is it from a commercial track?

I believe it's a Killzone original track. It's kind of the main theme of the Helghast and the series.
 
I am finally abandoning the Skull Kid I've used since my account was activated in favor of something else:

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It'll probably only last until E3 though. :lol

(If it's too similar to anybody else's, lemme know. And thanks to Sentry for providing the image I made it from.)
 
Zen said:
I sure hope so, they let me down so hard with how narrow the scope of Killzone 2 was, I wasnted to see civilians, darnit! :lol
Yeah, i'm hoping that was due to the fact that so, so much time went into the engine, visuals, performance, etc (technical stuff) more so than story, character etc.

Now that they have most of the technical side locked down, other than adding new features here and there (see 3D), it'll be a good opportunity for GG to show how well they can tell a story.
 
Sentry said:
Yeah, i'm hoping that was due to the fact that so, so much time went into the engine, visuals, performance, etc (technical stuff) more so than story, character etc.

Now that they have most of the technical side locked down, other than adding new features here and there (see 3D), it'll be a good opportunity for GG to show how well they can tell a story.
I think their focus on actually crafting the engine at the very least hindered the variety in Killzone 2. They didn't suddenly ignore the jetpacks and other cool ideas they came up with for Liberation just for the hell of it. The fact that all of this is back for Killzone 3 implies they were very much hindered by time with the last game.

Creating numerous new character models to add to cutscenes for the story would take much time as well.
 
alba said:
I just hope we get flashbacks of some kind because I want more Visari speeches, damnit! :O

I hope we still get some of his pre-recorded inspirational speeches blaring over speaker systems. :lol

It would be funny if there was a faction claiming that Visari was still alive, and were using poorly espliced audio and video recordings of him. :lol
 
Zen said:
I believe it's a Killzone original track. It's kind of the main theme of the Helghast and the series.
It's not in the Killzone 2 OST and it's not the main theme of Killzone 1. I have a feeling I've heard it before though...
 
makingmusic476 said:
I am finally abandoning the Skull Kid I've used since my account was activated in favor of something else:

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It'll probably only last until E3 though. :lol

(If it's too similar to anybody else's, lemme know. And thanks to Sentry for providing the image I made it from.)[/QUOTE]
No problem, but i'm pretty sure someone else has a static avatar of that shot as well.. probably not a good idea, but if it's ok with them then who cares.

Though I made another version that's up for grabs, unless you want it (made two versions for personal preference);

[s]http://i49.tinypic.com/148q26a.png[/s] [s]http://i47.tinypic.com/2a4zrtd.png[/s]

PS. Random, but anyone else want a special edition that comes with 3D glasses that look like helghast goggles? :lol
 
Sentry said:
No problem, but i'm pretty sure someone else has a static avatar of that shot as well.. probably not a good idea, but if it's ok with them then who cares.

Though I made another version that's up for grabs, unless you want it (made two versions for personal preference);

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2a4zrtd.png


PS. Random, but anyone else want a special edition that comes with 3D glasses that look like helghast goggles? :lol
Closest I could find to my current avatar was user friendly's from several pages back, so I think I'm safe. Thanks though.

And I'd buy a CE for Helghast goggles even though I don't have a 3D tv. D:
 
Sentry said:
No problem, but i'm pretty sure someone else has a static avatar of that shot as well.. probably not a good idea, but if it's ok with them then who cares.

Though I made another version that's up for grabs, unless you want it (made two versions for personal preference);

148q26a.png
2a4zrtd.png


PS. Random, but anyone else want a special edition that comes with 3D glasses that look like helghast goggles? :lol
Screw that have a 3D Helmet that you wear on :lol
 
Where's this
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and the other similar gifs from?

Can't find it in the OP or youtube.



VVV Thank you! (Hot damn that teaser was badass!)
 
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