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KINGSGLAIVE: Final Fantasy XV Thread: Everything for the future king
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@MoogleKupoCake
These airships where designed during the Versus era and updated a little for Kingsglaive. #FFXV
I don't see it. That's, like, the antithesis of a Nomura design.
I'll probably get some flak for this, but Nomura's designs aren't as homogenous as some make them out to be. Snow and Gladiolus are very much in line with proto-Nyx and would work well together.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Who wants new avatars
Yeah, you're right. I thought of Snow, too, before I replied, but I was a bit confused as to how Nyx is so much less FF compared to that prototype. Could you explain, I'm curious?^^
lol
Noctis-Ouji is going to REBUILD THE WALL and MAKE LUCIS GREAT AGAIN.
Jokes aside, i'm really happy they're dubling down on the geo-political themes, hope its the same for the game
Hey don't complain, aren't you living in Altissia?
Sadly i'm leaving at the end of the month once and for all.
It's going to be a bittersweet experience to visit it in the game :'(
Oh, studying abroad?
Well, first of all I should probably mention that everyone has a different interpretation of what Final Fantasy constitutes and that his is why disputes are bound to happen. My interpretation of FF is mostly related to a certain visual style. The settings change, the gameplay systems change, even the art direction changes, but I feel like despite all these changes, the visual style of the characters remains mostly consistent (FFIX being the obvious exception) and more or less serves as an immediate indicator that what I am seeing is FF.
For the better or the worse, the way the characters are modelled in FF games was heavily influenced by Nomura and the interpretation of his work by Visual Works. Visual Works has a very distinct way of rendering human eyes and to some extent other facial features. This becomes evident when you compare various recent projects by them and interestingly extends beyond Nomura's designs. FFXIV was spearheaded by Yoshida, but looks similiar to the CG cutscenes from The 3rd Birthday (with designs by Nomura and another artist) because of this. This style is what constitutes FF to me and I understand that not everyone shares my view.
Nyx and the other Kingsglaive designs (Minus Regis, actually) lack this distinct visual footprint. They were based on actual human beings and while there's nothing wrong with that approach by itself, it clashes with my personal interpretation of FF.
mortal
Gold Member
As much as I enjoy seeing and experiencing the final work, as an artist myself, I equally love seeing the process and concepts for projects ( especially when it comes to FF.)
Seeing the amount of collective work that goes into the production, makes me appreciate the final work all the more.
It's a shame I don't understand Japanese, considering there's a lot of talk focusing on technical and creative aspects of development. Hope to become a part of a team like this someday.
Seeing the amount of collective work that goes into the production, makes me appreciate the final work all the more.
It's a shame I don't understand Japanese, considering there's a lot of talk focusing on technical and creative aspects of development. Hope to become a part of a team like this someday.
Final Fantasy XV |OT| Save the Wall
Final Fantasy XV |OT| Make Lucis Great Again
The opposite actually, i moved in Venice for college, but i finished all my exams and i'm graduating this Fall, so i'm gonna move back to Milan.
Final Fantasy XV |OT| Make Lucis Great Again
The opposite actually, i moved in Venice for college, but i finished all my exams and i'm graduating this Fall, so i'm gonna move back to Milan.
So kinda like a reverse-Sanfransokyo
looks like ahegao
That's avatar material right there.
Ahh, got it. Well explained. Thing is, that's the same "FF-ness" that I'm always talking about, too, and for me Kingsglaive has exactly that w.r.t. the overall aesthetics and unique mix of settings, even if some of the character design admittedly look more realistic than the FF-typical "Anime humans" (for lack of a better word). Personally, I love Nyx, Ravus, Ardyn and Crowe's look especially and would be happy to see more of that direction in future FFs. Agni's Philosophy already teased that years ago and ever since I've been waiting for a mainline FF in that vein.
Also, if we look at costume design in Kingsglaive, those are still unmistakably FF, lol:
But I understand what you mean now. For me, luckily, this new style is right up my alley, nowadays.
Oh, misread it as "I'm leaving Italy". Congrats, mate! Wish you the best
Damn. Was that confirmed? I've been looking forward to exploring the city since the old Versus days.
Oh, misread it as "I'm leaving Italy". Congrats, mate! Wish you the best
Thanks!
To be honest though, i'm working everyday at my graduation thesis and i'm listening to FFXV soundtrack pratically all the time, this game is going to be my long earned reward when it releases lol.
We will get a chance to play in it, most deifnitely into late game or even as the final area, but it's going to be a war-like zone, so it's not going to be explorable in the same sense as a classic RPG city.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Whoa, Western fans are complaining because Insomnia is losing it's heavily Japanese/Shinjuku feel, which is a direct result of Japanese fans complaining that Insomnia looks too Japanese! Oh the sweet irony!
lol
It seems like with what is made known in Kingsglaive and that sign, the Versus take on "A Fantasy base on Reality" is pretty much alive. I know people have kinda come to the conclusion that it means "more realistic looking world", but from what I recall from an old interview, it means MORE realistic political relations and such. They said they were inspired by some things going on in OUR world. I can see the whole protesting against Regis's decisions, as well as the hopelessnes felt by the smaller towns/districts outside of Insomnia being handed over to Niflheim as being something reflective of this. I really hope this is carried into FFXV itself. Considering you are traveling around, it would be interesting to see how those people, the ones of the communities outside of Insomnia that were basically given to Niflheim by Regis himself, treat you, son of Regis.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
Since the movie just came out in Japan, were there any reviews?
My last exam this semester is 3 days before FFXV releases and afterwards I have almost two weeks of free time before the next semester starts - I don't have to explain what I'll be doing during that time
Me and a few of my best buddies, one of which will take leave at work, joked about getting enough food and drinks beforehand, turning off our phones and shutting ourselves in our room for two weeks, haha.Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Any backup videos of the livestream?
My last exam this semester is 3 days before FFXV releases and afterwards I have almost two weeks of free time before the next semester starts - I don't have to explain what I'll be doing during that time
Yeah starting from October i should start looking for a job but you know what, that can come later, XV will have the absolute priority over everything else.
Kingsglaive Luna is perfection
XV Luna
Heh, Luna in that Kingsglaive poster looks nothing like the CGI model, it's actually very similar to the in-game one and that second artwork.
I think KG Luna looks pretty close to the art if we were to look from a similar side view. Her in-game model looks nothing like the second artwork though.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Uhm, Versus wouldn't have had an explorable Insomnia either. It only was a battleground/set-piece during the treaty party/invasion at the start of the game. After that it certainly would've been destroyed and closed off for the main party. In FFXV it's now at the end of the game instead, where the final battle will be apparently.
chozen
Member
Oh yeah? then what was the meaning of this concept art? Tabata said it himself it would have taken years to pull off Insomnia so instead they did the movie.
Since we aren't meant to explore it anymore, I would have rather they made Lucis some generic town and put this setting in another town and made it fully exploreable, still a missed opportunity.
RubberJohnny
Banned
That's from the end of the game. That's still in the game.
There's just not some 16 square kilometre explorable metropolis beyond that, and there never was, even in the Versus era.
This is why so much of the "they changed it since Versus is dumb", because the thing it is being compared to is this version that's built up in peoples heads as this perfect game and only exists there, rather than what the actual plans were, which was for it to be the Midgar sequence at the start and then a dungeon at the end.
Versus didn't exist, all they managed from four years was some CG cutscenes and a short tech demo that looked outdated and rough the moment it was unveiled. Let it go!
There's just not some 16 square kilometre explorable metropolis beyond that, and there never was, even in the Versus era.
This is why so much of the "they changed it since Versus is dumb", because the thing it is being compared to is this version that's built up in peoples heads as this perfect game and only exists there, rather than what the actual plans were, which was for it to be the Midgar sequence at the start and then a dungeon at the end.
Versus didn't exist, all they managed from four years was some CG cutscenes and a short tech demo that looked outdated and rough the moment it was unveiled. Let it go!
xion4360
Member
The never ending "what could have been" of FFvXIII....
look, we never got vXIII.. for years and years. There is no telling what vXIII would have actually been if it came out so just give it up already. There's no point in going on and on about something that never materialized, and its not for no reason. The game we are getting looks great, let's see how it turns out and judge it on its own merits.
look, we never got vXIII.. for years and years. There is no telling what vXIII would have actually been if it came out so just give it up already. There's no point in going on and on about something that never materialized, and its not for no reason. The game we are getting looks great, let's see how it turns out and judge it on its own merits.
Oh yeah? then what was the meaning of this concept art?
That's from FFXV, though. Who knows, there might be a short playable intro sequence in Insomnia where this CGI scene is from, or well, it's just an intro video and then it skips to you hitting the road. We'll see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcoRb7B7PCM
At what point do you think the main party could explore Insomnia in a peaceful state in Versus, if it's known that it would've started with the treaty-signing party from the Versus 2011 trailer?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I feel like this is a situation that happens often when western fans complain about changes made..that's some amazing irony.
chozen
Member
Funny how we go from, "I can't wait to explore the Shinjuku based city" to "What are you talking about it was never there"
Also last I remember Midgar had shops and we spent 20 hours/1 Disk in Midgar, so don't give me that BS. Point is, it is a missed opportunity, regardless if I "let go" or not.
It's actually from Versus not XV, Noctis doesn't wear a suit in Insomnia to attend the formal party like he was meant to.
Like are people actually forgetting why we were upset in the first place? There are concept arts and even videos of us in Insomnia at the start of the game in a peaceful state that were cut.
Stop acting like we never knew, I'm just saying it was a missed opportunity.
Mister Megative
Banned
Regarding villain speculation, according to what I've heard from around the net, Kingsglaive basically
Can anyone confirm?
dispels the notion that Ravus (hooded man) is the main antagonist as some like to theorize, and more or less confirms Ardyn as our villain.
Can anyone confirm?
RubberJohnny
Banned
People who said the first were mistaken.
Like six at most, and most of those were dungeons. And Versus would have had even less exploration due to the invasion.
That stuff is still in.
Those who saw it said that he's a bit of a whimp and doesn't give the "main villain" vibes too much, but this doesn't prove anything to me. Like, if anything to me it looks like they're building him in a specific way and actually grow as a villain throughout Kingsglaive and XV, with his jaded view of Luna and Lucis royal family after the Tenebrae accident, as well as being power hungry so much to try to use the ring's magic (but he does not get killed). Regarding Ardyn, they simply say he's a scheming character, same as Iedolas, but i think it's too early to judge.
That's Naora's FFXV concept art he showed in 2015... He did a presentation at USC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E63MciSH_-E&t=57m
It was shown last year during Yusuke Naora's lecture tour at SMU Guildhall and that concept art was shown during the FFXV section: http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/...ept-art-behind-final-fantasy-xvs-modern-city/
Noctis wears that same suit that we also saw in Versus and in that recent image from FFXV I posted above of the main cast standing at Insomnia's gates:
Okay, now I'm curious. Can you show me which one? I don't remember any of the cast exploring Insomnia at daytime and while it's not under attack.
chozen
Member
In FF7 Midgar you are rebels with a hideout within that first large major city of Midgar.
There are many areas such as the Slums, Shinra HQ, each sector. Just because you are being invaded, or terrorized upon never mean't you had to leave the country all together.
You can still be on the run and hide while inside of that huge territory. That could have been part of the opening a few hours for XV/Versus. Instantly the stakes are high and I'm automatically involved.
XV is trying to be better than VII but can't even do a proper opening sequence, instead the game starts with us pushing the car.
chozen
Member
SHOWN at , not MADE around that time.
I can present old art too, that doesn't necessarily mean it's new or up to date, you also remember that Visual Works showed off that Work in progress CGI of Altissia when we already saw the final product. This isn't something new, they didn't discard the art but the events do not play out like they used to. They can still use Versus art for XV.
I can promise you Noctis will not wear the suit in the intro of game.
In FF7 Midgar you are rebels with a hideout within that first large major city of Midgar.
There are many areas such as the Slums, Shinra HQ, each sector. Just because you are being invaded, or terrorized upon never mean't you had to leave the country all together.
You can still be on the run and hide while inside of that huge territory. That could have been part of the opening a few hours for XV/Versus. Instantly the stakes are high and I'm automatically involved.
XV is trying to be better than VII but can't even do a proper opening sequence, instead the game starts with us pushing the car.
You talk about it but we don't know if that was the plan or not.
For what we know, the game could have started during the treaty sign party and from then it was just a long escape.
Also the game does not start with us pushing the car, there's a whole prologue chapter of which we know nothing about, and could very well be slightly closer to what was in store for Versus. (last part is a speculation of mine)
NoctisVsStar
Member
Instead of fighting our way out of Insommia we're fighting our way in now. If you look at the versus XIII 2011 trailer I'm sure we gonna do the same but near end game now.
xion4360
Member
In FF7 Midgar you are rebels with a hideout within that first large major city of Midgar.
There are many areas such as the Slums, Shinra HQ, each sector. Just because you are being invaded, or terrorized upon never mean't you had to leave the country all together.
You can still be on the run and hide while inside of that huge territory. That could have been part of the opening a few hours for XV/Versus. Instantly the stakes are high and I'm automatically involved.
XV is trying to be better than VII but can't even do a proper opening sequence, instead the game starts with us pushing the car.
The ideas you have in your own mind about what FFvXIII was going to be based on concept art and early footage that probably had no real game behind it is probably always going to be better than what XV ends up being. Its probably best not to inject too much of that into it. Its your opinion of course, so ill stop talking now.
This hippie should be cutting his hair, not growing it out.
It doesn't. There is an additional "prologue" sequence that Squeenix hasn't been showing to the press, for reasons.
In FF7 Midgar you are rebels with a hideout within that first large major city of Midgar.
There are many areas such as the Slums, Shinra HQ, each sector. Just because you are being invaded, or terrorized upon never mean't you had to leave the country all together.
You can still be on the run and hide while inside of that huge territory. That could have been part of the opening a few hours for XV/Versus. Instantly the stakes are high and I'm automatically involved.
XV is trying to be better than VII but can't even do a proper opening sequence, instead the game starts with us pushing the car.
Isn't there a chapter before the whole car thing?
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