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Kirby: Epic Yarn announced [N-CONF]
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Ignis Fatuus
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Deputy Moonman
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I'm indifferent, honestly. They liked it because it wasn't one of the 50 first person shooters at E3, and I can understand that. But I think the game should be touted for it's originality and innovation, and not winning awards for best graphics, which most people associate with cutting edge looks, not yarn. It still, for all intensive purposes, looks like a game that can be made in LBP2 as far as i'm concerned, which begs the question: why isn't LBP2 being considered? Even for the original gameplay, this game looks completely stale to me.sfried said:
Coolio McAwesome
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Good for GameTrailers. At the end of the day, creativity, imagination, and art direction are far more import than pixels and polygons. I've been saying this for the past four years and it's nice to see that others are on the same page. Comparing Epic Yarn to the myriad of M-rated HD blockbusters is like comparing Yoshi's Island to PS1 games from the same era. "Photo-realistic" games are going to look like shit in ten years while a game like Epic Yarn will be beautiful forever.
Deputy Moonman
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But that's just it, it's not winning an award for "creative imagination, and art direction," it's winning an award for best graphics, which it clearly does not have. This is one of the reactions from a poster on the gametrailers forum that I really can agree with:Coolio McAwesome said:
Fimbulvetr
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Ignis Fatuus said:
Suck it, haters.
Fantastical
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Translation for GT's comments: FUCK THIS FUCKING BULLL SHHITTTTTT!!!! I COULD PLAY THIS GAME ON MY CALCULATOR! GT JUST SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT!!!Deputy Moonman said:
Ignis Fatuus
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Graphics =/= TechnologyDeputy Moonman said:
Graphics = How The Game Looks
I second this fine gentleman's motion!AniHawk said:
This game really does look incredible. All the previous Kirby games kind of blurred together in my mind into one shapeless mass of pastel colors, one looking like the other. Hence I wasn't exactly stoked at the prospect of a new console Kirby. But this game just screams style. Textile, cloth, and that oh-so-amazing yarn. I don't think watching the dragon boss will ever get old.
And yes, I own a PS3 and was stunned by Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 (the latter's Poseidon and Cronos set-pieces, especially). But in the end, they're still polygons. Whereas I look at Epic Yarn here and I don't think "polygons," "sprites" or whatever. I see a creature-y life akin to stop-motion masterpieces like Nightmare Before Christmas. Real magic, if you would.
I wonder if anyone who worked on Yoshi's Story is working on this...
Hero of Legend
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I don't know about you guys, but I think Good Feel's artistic brilliance with this game just proves that they truly should be under Nintendo's belt. What are they waiting for?!
H_Prestige
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Ignis Fatuus said:
B-b-but I thought graphics only meant poly count, resolution, and AA!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GraphicsDeputy Moonman said:
"Graphics (from Greek γραφικός graphia) are visual presentations on some surface, such as a wall, canvas, computer screen, paper, or stone to brand, inform, illustrate, or entertain"
"Graphics can be functional or artistic."
Hero of Legend
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farnham said:
Maybe, but shouldn't the credit be more towards Production I.G. for that? I'm not certain who's responsible for what in particular for the amazing animation and such in Shake It.
HK-47 said:
I suppose being 1st Party's not a huge deal, I just feel that these guys are a tremendously talented bunch and that they really go hand-in-hand with Nintendo, thus why I feel they should be properly together. Second-Party's good enough for that I guess.
Deputy Moonman
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I guess I would ask why LBP2 wasn't considered? I think what it really comes down to is that Gametrailers.com wanted to vote for something new, not a sequel, nor another first person shooter. This really doesn't affect me much, because I'm really only interested in on game, Halo Reach.Blizzard said:
But it's worth posting my thoughts in this thread, because I think it's obvious that the Nintendo lovers aren't even willing to concede the point. It's just a "haha look at that" kind of argument as opposed to a "yeah this game should not have won best graphics unless we are willing to re-define what 'best graphics' means. I own an xbox 360 and a Wii. I like games on both consoles. I don't own an PS3, so I promise you that I'm not trying to troll this thread or hate on Nintendo.
I haven't seen LBP2 pictures that I know of -- is it really so different graphically from LBP1 that it would be considered innovative? I'm just going by the screenshot though, and they might have some full description on their website that says best technical AAshadertechz or something, and the reward is a sham. ;(Deputy Moonman said:
Freezie KO
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Deputy Moonman said:
I understand your point, but maybe we're not actually "redefining" what it means to have the best graphics. Maybe this is just the first time the industry is mature enough (!) to realize that best graphics doesn't mean pushing technology.
If you look at major cinematography or production design awards, they award both the artistic and the technical. This is just the first time a major publication was able to see past pure polygons and shader counts and look at the big picture.
As for LBP, you mentioned yourself that maybe Gametrailers wanted to award something that wasn't a sequel, and LBP 2 looks very much like LBP 1. The first one, though, should absolutely have been lauded for its unique graphical approach.
SilverLunar
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Wow, this game deserves it.Ignis Fatuus said:
abstract alien
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Nice!!!!
Fimbulvetr
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TL4E said:
If by liberal you mean actual.
AceBandage
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There's finally justice in this world, now that people are beginning to learn that artstyle is more important that shoving a bunch of particle effects into a game.
EmCeeGramr
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you can't just post that and not the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXzg0D-cKdsThrei said:haters gunna hate
Ignis Fatuus
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omg :lolEmCeeGramr said:
abstract alien
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When the first few seconds played, this really nice Philippino lady walking by heard it and said, "I didn't know you were a Mexican" :lolEmCeeGramr said:
Feel the Swift
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oh god lol
Coolio McAwesome
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Deputy Moonman said:
robor said:
If there was an award for "most pixels on screen" or "most polygons" then Kirby wouldn't win. That's not what this award was for, however. It was for best graphics. Is this really that hard to understand?
The term "graphics" simply refers to a visual presentation. Art direction and creativity obviously play a role in this presentation. To argue otherwise would be an admission that you do not understand what the term actually means. This is not up for debate. "Graphics" is a proper word with a proper definition and proper connotations. You don't necessarily have to agree with GameTrailer's choice, but anyone who argues that "art direction" and "graphics" are mutually exclusive clearly has no idea what they are talking about.