SuperSonic1305
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Going off the Giant Bomb stream even those were more reliable on PS4.
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Kotaku: Installing Xbox One games takes way too long; comparison
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Going off the Giant Bomb stream even those were more reliable on PS4.
And they killed the API just recently too. They left it just long enough to become the defacto VoIP platform, and now they think it will lock people into Xbox/Windows instead of driving them to other services.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
From that nice restaurant you heard about in the next town over.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Out of curiosity, does the PS4 cache games (like keep the last 4 installs) or are they more permanent installs that forces you to manually delete at your own whim like the PS3.
If it is the former, I could see why it is faster than the latter.
If it is the former, I could see why it is faster than the latter.
Yep. Every game I installed did so fully in a couple of minutes, except for NBA, which I played while it installed.
Yeah, I was going to say isn't the install processes of both consoles a bit different?
I installed my 360 games and the Xbox One is pretty much the same when it comes to time. Wouldn't mind it bring faster though.
im' responding to "Which is effectively all that matters. Title is fine."
like i said, the title is not the same thing
Yes? Sony also owns Crackle and are heavily involved with the Blu-ray Disc Assiociation.
Maybe so but I was able to start the game after the bar on the game's UI page stopped. Apparently if NBA's not fully installed you have to play that quick game while it finishes but I didn't have to. I was sent right to the starting menus where you create your character and sign in, then the main menu where I started a GM mode file.
Senor Kami
Banned
Ahh, I meant everything as in every game.
Nightengale
Member
Yeah, but PS4 has like 5 command strings. Xbone has like 50.
You can do other stuff while a disc install/update is happening. Last night I was playing Powerstar Golf while Dead Rising was updating and installing.
I was thinking about how much sense it would make for Sony to get Hangouts on the PS4. It should be something that Google would definitely go for, and it would give them something that Skype on the Xbox One doesn't do (multi-person video conferences).
At least, I'm under the assumption that Skype on Xbone doesn't. Maybe I'm wrong?
Of course, the problem is it's Google Hangouts, and I feel like people are far, far more likely to have Skype.
puffyshirt
Banned
How are these numbers even possible? What is the PS4 doing to make it so fast? I only have a PS4, so I just assumed those speeds were normal, but I did find it odd when Killzone (a 40gb install) took like 45 seconds.
Zatoichi's Cane
Member
But you can snap netflix while you wai........
It's nitpicking, but this is the time from inserting the disc on Ps4, and from clicking on the 'install' disc icon on Xbox one.
PS4 starts installing as soon as you out a disc in, Xbox doesn't. Might only be a small feature but it can definitely save time, especially if the TV is in use - just put the disc in and let it do its thing.
3rdamention
Member
Could this have anything to do with the previous DRM scheme, and how disc games used to install and then the discs were basically useless? I wonder if the way the system is designed to install games, despite the 180 in DRM, is making the game installs so slow?
MHWilliams
Member
Ryse's first install took an hour and 38 minutes before it would let me actually play the game. So I believe these times.
Resident_UA
Member
I can agree with that.
Not really the point of the thread, but I noticed my Xbox One also takes forever downloading games. At least it's a lot slower than it should be. For example, yesterday I bought and started downloading DR3 at around 2:40pm. At around 8:30pm I'm barely at 32%. Then an hour later it's suddenly at 82%. So it takes me almost 6 hours to get to 32% percent, then it jumps to 82% in a little over an hour. The 52% gain in an hour matches my speeds, 32% in 6 hours does not. DR3 isn't exactly the biggest game either. The console is connected through Ethernet too.
This is like a throwback to how depressingly slow PSN was for me when I had a PS3.
This is like a throwback to how depressingly slow PSN was for me when I had a PS3.
All PS4 games are installed to the hard drive with the PlayGo functionality (if avaiable), and you will be prompted to delete installation if there is no space available for newest game you want to install. You have to manually delete game. There is a nice interface for that that you can access anytime you want, full storage breakdown how big is what.
On Xbone,there is zero file management currently available. You cannot see how much space you have left, you cannot see how big installations are, you cannot delete installations. When you insert new game and there is no space available, Xbone OS will delete oldest game from your drive.
Nightengale
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I've seen this brought up like 5 times in GAF, and sporadically mentioned in some first impressions here and there with Angry Joe, etc.
Even we didn't really go in-depth with this, since not many of us could share sufficient comparisons. There were murmurs of it, but not enough to have made news.
Sorry dude but impossible write speed is impossible. The hdd is allocating that amount in reserve while it installs.
What the hell? Is the XB1 installing at 1X speed? I remember the GB livestream Forza 5 was installing for nearly an hour before the guys could play it. This was off disc.
Permanent installs that you can choose to delete.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Like some old 360 titles, the Xbone is better with Kinect.
What!? That can't possible be true, can it? How has this not come to light before?
The PS4 installs games in the background, so the initial update is only downloading the essentials required to start playing the game while the rest is downloaded while you are already playing the game. The Xbox One does not do this.
MagicWithEarvin
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What the hell...
Muppet of a Man
Member
If true, that is some major bullshit.
Sword Of Doom
Member
The PS4 has been great. Everything is FAST! I haven't once felt like in waiting for something. I'm glad Kotaku is talking about this issue cause I haven't heard anybody else talk about it
What's your speed?
I download all of my Xbox One games at launch and it only took me about 5-6 hours. I'm on a 80 Mbps connection though.
doniewhalberg
Member
This is the general case with the game, or did yours take extra long for any reason? Was this off the disc or pure digital download? Jesus if that's the norm.
quickwhips
Member
You can delete installations but I believe everything else you said is true.
Eh, I feel that's a more elegant solution than the PS4. Having to go into data management and manually delete game installations is not intuitive.
That being said, the Xbox One should at least offer you the option of managing data yourself.
RoadHazard
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But the article says the progress bar on the PS4 is just there until the game is ready to be played, it disappearing doesn't mean the full install is done.
Kotaku said:
It keeps installing invisibly in the background after that. And the fact that the game is shown as taking up all that space doesn't mean anything, as I'm pretty sure the space for the full install is allocated before it even begins. That's how it was on the PS3 due to the filesystem used, and the PS4 OS is based on the same foundation (FreeBSD) and likely works the same way in that sense.
Carnby
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Can YOU play BF4 and post on GAF at the same time on PS4? I didn't think so.
Do you want to play BF4 and post on GAF at the same time on PS4? That's a question for another time.
Yea, straight up terrible. If I wanted to spend that much time installing something, I'd just buy digital and do it while I was at work. Anything longer than 30 minutes is insulting.
Yep it's true. I don't understand the decision at all. Very silly.
44 GB in a minute is literally impossible, so either you have a magic 6x Blu Ray drive or a broken clock.