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[Lobster]

Sounds like its not Kotakus fault.

Sounds like Sony shipped a package over to Konami to shut Kojima up.

You guys gotta think outside the square.

 

[AmMortal]

GremlininTheMachine- truly is a :

:lol

 

[TheHeretic]

Anyone with anything remotely negative to say about MGS is clearly a troll.

Cearly.

o fuck does that mean kojima is a troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[godhandiscen]

No it's not. You're being hypersensitive by thinking I'm criticizing the PS3 in order to bolster the 360. I have no love for either system.
.

fixed.

I have seen him trolling 360 games a lot. Too Human his latest victim. Definitely not a fanboy, he is just too picky imo.

 

[Pistolero]

That's not a troll, more of an orc or a dragon ! WOW ! :lol :lol :lol

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

fixed.

I have seen him trolling 360 games a lot. Too Human his latest victim. Definitely not a fanboy, he is just too picky imo.

That...really doesn't exactly make things better, when it basically says he hates both PS3 and X360 and thusly can free-reign troll?

What?

 

[battleMAUS]

mass gremlin ownage

do you know i love you?

Sounds like its not Kotakus fault.

Sounds like Sony shipped a package over to Konami to shut Kojima up.

You guys gotta think outside the square.

CAN YOU READ?

from EDGE:

"I remember saying three years ago that we wanted to create something revolutionary, but in reality we couldn't really do that because of the CPU. We're using the Cell engine to its limit, actually. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing the PS3 machine, it's just that we weren't really aware of what the full-spec PS3 offered - we were creating something we couldn't entirely see."

 

[Pistolero]

fixed.

I have seen him trolling 360 games a lot. Too Human his latest victim. Definitely not a fanboy, he is just too picky imo.

WOW ! He's just picky...Oh my god ! :lol

 

[Duke Togo]

Yes, its perfectly acceptable to spew shit out of your mouth, just as long as everyone has to smell it.

 

[Pistolero]

Almost forgot to post this, I also don't know sauce but it's great.

:lol the expression on his face ! :lol

 

[TheHeretic]

Yes, its perfectly acceptable to spew shit out of your mouth, just as long as everyone has to smell it.

This. If hes hating on everything thats his right.

 

[KTallguy]

No it's not. You're being hypersensitive by thinking I'm criticizing the PS3 in order to bolster the 360. I have no love or hate for either system.

*glances at the above post*

:lol

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

So, which GTA4 did you choose and why?
[Referring to the PS3 version]






Making Devil May Cry 4 PS3 was tricky



[DMC4 PS3 outsold DMC4 360. He didn't even bother to take a look at what he typed...]














[*Looks at the 360 and how it's changed over such a short period of time]





Q:I Just got a PS3...what's good out there right now?
A:



About Uncharted







On PS3




On Insomniac




On Little Big Planet




I'm not even going to bother counting how many times: "Sony", "Fanboy", "Kool-Aid" were mentioned. These posts are more than enough to discredit everything you say in these type of threads.

You've been bashing MGS4 from day 1 and you continue to do so. I don't like doing this kind of dirty stuff since the past is the past. But you claiming to be neutral in this whole matter is laughable.

Ah, the beauty of posting history.

 

[GremlinInTheMachine]

I'm not even going to bother counting how many times: "Sony", "Fanboy", "Kool-Aid" were mentioned. These posts are more than enough to discredit everything you say in these type of threads.

You've been bashing MGS4 from day 1 and you continue to do so. I don't like doing this kind of dirty stuff since the past is the past. But you claiming to be neutral in this whole matter is laughable.

Three problems with this.

1. You're attacking the messanger instead of the message. That's intellectually dishonest.

2. You're counting the hits and ignoring the misses. You should read my criticisms of Halo sometime. Trust me when I say my criticisms of Sony games are mild in comparison.

3. In none of those posts did I criticize MGS 4. In one of them I even said it was the only important PS3 exclusive coming out this year.

If you can't offer rational counter-arguments, you're useless to the debate.

 

[furrygiblets]

Three problems with this.

1. You're attacking the messanger instead of the message. That's intellecutal dishonest.

2. You're counting the hits and ignoring the misses. You should read my criticisms of Halo sometime. Trust me when I say my criticisms of Sony games are mild in comparison.

3. In none of those posts did I criticize MGS 4. In one of them I even said it was the only important PS3 exclusive coming out this year.

If you can't offer rational counter-arguments, you're useless to the debate.

The problem is you being an asshat fanboy

 

[GremlinInTheMachine]

The problem is you being an asshat fanboy

Which side am I on, Corky?

 

[Pistolero]

Three problems with this.

1. You're attacking the messanger instead of the message. That's intellecutal dishonest.

2. You're counting the hits and ignoring the misses. You should read my criticisms of Halo sometime. Trust me when I say my criticisms of Sony games are mild in comparison.

3. In none of those posts did I criticize MGS 4. In one of them I even said it was the only important PS3 exclusive coming out this year.

If you can't offer rational counter-arguments, you're useless to the debate.

Intellectual ? Stop using words that escape your contributions please. :lol

 

[SolidSnakex]

Sounds like its not Kotakus fault.

Sounds like Sony shipped a package over to Konami to shut Kojima up.

You guys gotta think outside the square.

And this is why Kotaku can continue to get away with their bullshit.

 

[AmMortal]

Three problems with this.

1. You're attacking the messanger instead of the message. That's intellectually dishonest.

2. You're counting the hits and ignoring the misses. You should read my criticisms of Halo sometime. Trust me when I say my criticisms of Sony games are mild in comparison.

3. In none of those posts did I criticize MGS 4. In one of them I even said it was the only important PS3 exclusive coming out this year.

If you can't offer rational counter-arguments, you're useless to the debate.

Intele... what?

Did he just use a big word?

 

[TheHeretic]

Take them down Gremlin. Take them all down.

 

[KTallguy]

If you can't offer rational counter-arguments, you're useless to the debate.

Rational counter-arguments like?

"You're being hypersensitive" X2
"I have no love or hate for either system."
"'Kojima's a mad genius' line of thinking reminds me over teenage girls who hang boy band posters over their beds."

So I'm:

1. Hypersensitive.
2. Horrible for assuming that you have any bias whatsoever.
3. Bad for thinking that Kojima is a genius developer that puts amazing stuff in his games that no one else does.

I don't know where this conversation is supposed to be going... I just said that Kojima has a lot of talent and ambition, and all of a sudden I'm worshiping him ?

TheHeretic: Oh and I should change my avatar too?
I guess it invalidates my opinion to be looking forward to MGS4.

 

[TheHeretic]

mgs propaganda

*snore*

Next

 

[Yoboman]

Gremlin is a Capcom bimbo and a die-hard Nintendo fan who doesn't actually enjoy Nintendo games but sticks with them as a relic of when Capcom favoured Nintendo last gen. He has a 360 and can justify the criticisms he lays down on 95% of it's games, but in reality it's his console of choice. He despises PS3 and most of his posts are pot-shots against it, however he knows full well MGS4 will be his favourite game of the year even if he denies it.

I know this person

 

[CharminUltra]

BS BS BS BS BS...

I don't know man, after reading Crushdance post above I'd say the quality of your "journalism" lol ) rivals that of week old turd sun-baking on the sidewalk.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Sounds like its not Kotakus fault.

Sounds like Sony shipped a package over to Konami to shut Kojima up.

You guys gotta think outside the square.

You're ruining the circle-jerk! Come on man =/.

 

[CrushDance]

Three problems with this.

1. You're attacking the messanger instead of the message. That's intellecutal dishonest.

2. You're counting the hits and ignoring the misses. You should read my criticisms of Halo sometime. Trust me when I say my criticisms of Sony games are mild in comparison.

3. In none of those posts did I criticize MGS 4. In one of them I even said it was the only important PS3 exclusive coming out this year.

If you can't offer rational counter-arguments, you're useless to the debate.

Cut the crap. I saw your posts on Halo, Too Human and 360 RROD. But you know what's funny? The large majority of your posts were you jumping into threads like this and spinning as if your life depended on it. What's with the Kool-Aid comments? Gullible comments? Trashing first party studios? I don't see you attacking Bungie constantly directly or Silicon Knights about their games. All you say is: "Halo 3 looks kind of bad". You ENJOY taunting people and making inflammatory statements, right fucking HERE:

I’m exaggerating for effect but the people here are like Evangelical Christians using the Internet for the first time. They take everything so seriously that you can’t help but taunt them a little for fun.

. Are you fucking kidding me?

So what's with the difference? Any game that is hyped and is actually good and is exclusive or even multi platform on the PS3, is cause for you to hate. What's so bad about Uncharted? Resistance? Ratchet?

And please. Every single MGS4 thread has had you downplaying the game. Intellectual dishonesty? My post history speaks for itself, as does yours. I've lamented about how Sony has failed in so many areas and even gotten backlash at times for some of my comments. I don't own a 360 due to finances at the moment and also because I think one HD system is good enough for me since I have a Wii.

But I sure as hell appreciate what Microsoft has done in the industry thus far to push both Sony and Nintendo forward in the games and communication department. Yes I criticize Microsoft and games tied to them that we are only shown PRIOR to launch. But when a game launches and I see what people who actually PLAYED it have to say about it first hand, I SHUT THE FUCK UP and take the masses word for truth.

You will and never have seen me enter a 360 thread and start arguing about graphics, story or let alone GAMEPLAY since I've never even held most of the games in my sight. But you for some reason think that you can do that.

you are trolling and that is the end of the matter. Go ahead and look up my post history, you won't find such ridiculous statements by me about Bungie, their employees or other 360 related games.

Know when to stop.

Edit: Rationality? You're taking Kojima's analogies at face value. Grow up.

 

[furrygiblets]

Gremlin is a Capcom bimbo and a die-hard Nintendo fan who doesn't actually enjoy Nintendo games but sticks with them as a relic of when Capcom favoured Nintendo last gen. He has a 360 and can justify the criticisms he lays down on 95% of it's games, but in reality it's his console of choice. He despises PS3 and most of his posts are pot-shots against it, however he knows full well MGS4 will be his favourite game of the year even if he denies it.

I know this person

He talked about systemwars, whats his name on there, that should tell you everything.

 

[DC R1D3R]

Oh no, not again guys!
IIRC didn't Kotaku get the headline from an EDGE preview? If so, what's the problem?

 

[GodfatherX]

Kotaku run by monkeys, more news as it develops


....and Flynn De Marco [atleast theres that]

 

[Pistolero]

Which side am I on, Corky?

The wrong one obviously !

 

[Perdew]

WOW

This thread went from being useful and having Mcwhertor replying to a massive derailing for one guy who hates MGS4 apparently.

Seriously, on topic, and it's been brought up already, but Kotaku is one of the few blog sites I've seen that generally has some credibility. I would say that it is because of Crecente, and I've seen him add a lot to the site trying to make it 'more than a blog', like their newer, more constant reviews and such.

However, if they are acting like a more credible site, they cannot be childish like this. What rubbed me wrong was them trying to defend themselves (well just Ashcraft to be fair) like that in the same article. Merging opinion into factual pieces is NOT good for any type of journalism, it makes me want to stop reading the site all together.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Oh no, not again guys!
IIRC didn't Kotaku get the headline from an EDGE preview? If so, what's the problem?

They took a quote from Edge and put their own spin on it.

 

[TheHeretic]

Crushdance hit for some pretty massive damage. Either Gremlin is coming back from the ashes or hes bailed out.

 

[Replicant]

Why are we not banning KOTAKU anymore? I rarely find anything informative from it. And when it is, it's usually swiped from this board!! Just look at the media create charts they post.

 

[Miniboss1232]

I am Japanese, so I try to be modest. I'm an especially modest person. I dont wish to brag about it to say "I am the amazing Metal Gear guy" or to say "This is the best one", just like how Americans brag stuff like this...

HIDEO KOJIMA'S METAL GEAR SOLID 4

You can be proud of your work, but don't feign modesty when your freaking name is plastered on the front cover. Even us Americans don't do that.

Why are we not banning KOTAKU anymore? I rarely find anything informative from it. And when it is, it's usually swiped from this board!! Just look at the media create charts they post.

You do know what a blog is, right? They either post things they themselves hear about, or post things from around the Internet. "Blog" is short for "weblog". It's a log of the web. Learn words!

 

[AmMortal]

HIDEO KOJIMA'S METAL GEAR SOLID 4

You can be proud of your work, but don't feign modesty when your freaking name is plastered on the front cover. Even us Americans don't do that.

:lol

You know, I never thought of that.

 

[TheHeretic]

HIDEO KOJIMA'S METAL GEAR SOLID 4

You can be proud of your work, but don't feign modesty when your freaking name is plastered on the front cover. Even us Americans don't do that.

We should send you over to Japan with pockets full of truth. You'd show them whats what.

 

[Miniboss1232]

meh done here

 

[SolidSnakex]

HIDEO KOJIMA'S METAL GEAR SOLID 4

You can be proud of your work, but don't feign modesty when your freaking name is plastered on the front cover. Even us Americans don't do that.

His name isn't even on the cover of the game. Aside from that, do you have any proof that he required them to do that with the previous games and that it wasn't just Konami doing it because they felt it's a selling point?

 

[rollingstart]

HIDEO KOJIMA'S METAL GEAR SOLID 4

You can be proud of your work, but don't feign modesty when your freaking name is plastered on the front cover. Even us Americans don't do that.

I may be too tired to tell, but is this sarcasm or am I just missing something here?

 

[battleMAUS]

HIDEO KOJIMA'S METAL GEAR SOLID 4

You can be proud of your work, but don't feign modesty when your freaking name is plastered on the front cover. Even us Americans don't do that.

yes we do. how many times have you seen " a flim by" blah blah on a dvd cover. and i dont really think putting your name on your work has much to do with modesty.

 

[Darth Sonik]

Everyone here seems to be bagging on Kotaku over a "sensationalist" headline. Despite the fact that this thread mirrors that posting with a "sensationalist" title of its own.

Kojima is obviously trying to spin the message that has permeated after his Edge interview. Kotaku is calling him on it. Nothing to see here.


In fact the Headline was perhaps a bit mild, here are my better alternate headlines for original Kotaku blog post:

(1) Sony exaggerated PS3 spec's to Kojima.

(2) Sony conned me into turning my MGS4 teaser into "Cell" propaganda.

(3) Sony kept Kojima in the dark regarding PS3 shortcomings.

(4) Kojima thinks PS3 under delivered.

See that was easy, accurate & sensationalist .

:lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Salazar]

What happened to Gremlin was like a multi-multi-episode villain in The Bill getting their comeuppance. It's as if Gabriel Kent fell into a garbage compactor.

 

[TheHeretic]

HIDEO KOJIMA'S METAL GEAR SOLID 4

You can be proud of your work, but don't feign modesty when your freaking name is plastered on the front cover. Even us Americans don't do that.

yes we do. how many times have you seen " a flim by" blah blah on a dvd cover. and i dont really think putting your name on your work has much to do with modesty.

M Night Shamalamalmalayn does it and he sucks!

What happened to Gremlin was like a multi-multi-episode villain in The Bill getting their comeuppance. It's as if Gabriel Kent fell into a garbage compactor.

Who the hell watches The Bill? Jesus.

 

[Ten-Song]

M Night Shamalamalmalayn does it and he sucks!

I thought Unbreakable was okay...ish.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

:lol

You know, I never thought of that.

No?

Then how about AMERICAN McGEE'S ALICE! :O

He's an American with a fucking douchebag of a name to boot!

 

[tetsuoxb]

If you can't offer rational counter-arguments, you're useless to the debate.

Can I save this post for the next time you go into a Bionic Commando thread?

 

[AmMortal]

HIDEO KOJIMA'S METAL GEAR SOLID 4

You can be proud of your work, but don't feign modesty when your freaking name is plastered on the front cover. Even us Americans don't do that.



You do know what a blog is, right? They either post things they themselves hear about, or post things from around the Internet. "Blog" is short for "weblog". It's a log of the web. Learn words!

FRONT COVER:

Tom clancy's:

Rainbow Six series
Rainbow Six · Rogue Spear · Take-Down · Raven Shield · Black Arrow · Lockdown · Critical Hour · Vegas · Vegas 2

Ghost Recon series
Ghost Recon · Island Thunder · Jungle Storm · Ghost Recon 2 · Summit Strike · Advanced Warfighter · Advanced Warfighter 2

Splinter Cell series
Splinter Cell - Pandora Tomorrow · Chaos Theory · Double Agent · Essentials · Conviction


That's alot of covers:lol

My guess is he's still more humble then as he put it " american devs" and yes I know tom clancy's isn't a dev. But he still payed for that name next to his games.

 

[Salazar]

Who the hell watches The Bill? Jesus.

I did as a child, and still check it out for the irony / out of habit.

 

[TheHeretic]

I thought Unbreakable was okay...ish.

Yeah Unbreakable and The Sixth Sense were very good, but his latest movies, Signs, Lady in the Water and The Village were awful.

/derail