Papacheeks
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Maybe for you.
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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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Maybe for you.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Why does it matter? And if you say because you don't want to HAVE to upgrade...you are wrong.
SolidusDave
Member
If it's just to render or even just scale at 4K with no other differences to a game's version the existing PS4 l would be ok with it. That's mostly for 4K early adopters and gives Sony something to market the PS4.
Anything else makes me feel cheated as an early adopter. Previous sony consoles got more efficient over time but they actually lost features in newer models and not the opposite.
Anything else makes me feel cheated as an early adopter. Previous sony consoles got more efficient over time but they actually lost features in newer models and not the opposite.
Not upscale but rerendering just like the PS2 games on PS4.
ALLseeingEYE
Member
I agree, but I think it would be smarter for Sony to sell three options:
Standard PS4 (1080p 30fps) - $300
Premium PS4 (1080p, 60fps, improved image quality) - $400-450
4K PS4 (4K 30fps) - $500-600
You are right, it will currently cost PC users at least $1200 (probably closer to $1500us) to game at 4K 30fps for current AAA games. It won't be cheap for Sony to sell a 4K PS4. Having said that though, 4K is surely getting cheaper. Nvidia may be releasing an affordable mid-range 4K card at the end of the year that could be half the cost of current 4K cards (Pascal mid-range could be 300-350, compared to 650 for a GTX 980 ti).
This means, in my opinion, that perhaps it could be possible for Sony to sell a 4K capable PS4 for $500 a couple years if they play thier cards right, cut the right corners, and work the right deals.
DangerMouse
Member
Ugh.
And that's why the idea is stupid. It makes everyone hesitant to ever buy in knowing that a better version is close in an endless cycle.
And that's why the idea is stupid. It makes everyone hesitant to ever buy in knowing that a better version is close in an endless cycle.
Hawk269
Member
Did your sources say anything about the CPU. Since both the Xbox One and PS4 have the CPU and GPU on the same die, I would think that if they are upping the GPU that a beefed up CPU would also be in the cards? CPU's in both consoles are really poor and one of the reasons games don't run as good as they can.
I agree with the bragging. It is in Sony's DNA to do this. They did it with the PS2 and DVD Playback, they did it with the PS3 and Blu Ray playback. What to stop them from adding in HDMI 2.0 and a 4k Blu Ray drive allowing Blu Rays in 4k? By adding a stronger GPU and possibly CPU, they can also have better looking games, albeit not in 4k better, but perhaps games in 1080p/60fps more consistently with better effects and image quality.
Developers do this now with many games. I can take a 4 year old game on my PC that was designed to be played at 1080p and run it at 4k on my rig without issues. Many games are designed to scale, I would not see a developer having a hard time making a PS4 game where if it detects a standard PS4 game is 900p/1080p/30fps. If it detects a PS4k system it runs at 1080p/60fps/better AA, Better shadows etc.
Think about how much bouncier this would make butts.
ChoklitCow
Member
Basically said TLG fans were going to be happy in the E3 thread. Also mentioned stuff with Horizon I think?
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Sometimes I think people are incapable of enjoying thing if they know that another persons thing is slightly better.
They call it, "keeping up with the Jones'".
waitwhat42
Member
I would actually be fine with this. No big PS5 down the road, just the current year model.
Damn near every launch PS4 game was on PS3 (though PS3 couldn't handle Knack), and that would be the landscape for perpetuity.
Wouldn't it be possible for pubs to release just the "PlayStation" sku of a game that runs on all the hardware and just scales to what ever console you're playing on? Pubs will support the original PS4 install base for 3-4 more years at least.
Get_craycray
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Kind of, yeah.
SRTtoZ
Member
Welp.
I'm okay with this as long as there's a trade up program or something. Seriously, they want me to upgrade my PS4 AND buy a VR headset? Ugh so much money.
Death Metalist
Member
Shame that consoles are heading towards the mobile phones way of releasing their new shit. It's why I never buy a new phone unless mine drops dead or nothing works on it anymore. Really not a fan of incremental upgrades but if this is the way of the future of video games then what can I do? Especially since most seem to be ecstatic about it.
Sickboy007
Member
It's going to be an all-powerful PS3 with an updated browser. I've read it in jeff rigby thread.
ToastyEthan
Banned
*NEW PS4 just like the *NEW 3DS?! dafuq!? I better be able to upgrade my current PS4, if true.
Chip N Chance
Member
If its not a graphical or frame rate boost, and is just 4K than no thank you.
No. It has been underwhelming. Saying otherwise is absurd, but you probably fall into the target for this PS4.5 thing.
Mixolydian
Member
Yeah, it's hard to know what posts to attribute to whom (and pointless), but at a glance it does seem as though when MS was rumored to take this approach, many cried foul, but when Sony did it, it's suddenly a brilliant idea.
For the record, I'm ok with both companies doing it.
4K 60fps. $2,000 USD.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Will it have a better UI and run all the types of media the PS3 can at launch?
I know I sure as hell won't be an early adopter this time seeing as how it took almost a year for me to have enough software I was interested in to play my PS4 regularly.
I know I sure as hell won't be an early adopter this time seeing as how it took almost a year for me to have enough software I was interested in to play my PS4 regularly.
WAT???
Unless those devs plan to go back and retool the performance of the game you're in for a surprise.
The devs who have been briefed by Sony, do they sound excited for it? Or do they share the same outlook as those who haven't been briefed e.g. "sigh"?
If they're excited, I wonder if there's additional details that we don't know that would make a dev be ok for the idea?
OK, that makes more sense to me now. I'll probably wait for my PS4 to conk out before I get this. That's what I did with the PS3 anyway.
LookAtMeGo
Member
4Kn hell.
this will not happen
I honestly don't know how they are going to release anything slimmer than the ps4, especially if we're talking about beefier gpu here which typically would mean more wattage and more heat.
PS4K may very well be the actually name, has a good ring to it, market it it the the high end segment and also has 4k blu ray support. Samsung is selling a stand alone Bluray player from $399. Sony very well might release this at $599.
Feel the same. For me one of the biggest advantages of consoles was that you didn't need to upgrade every few years. Also I have hard time believing this 4k talk when PS4 struggles even with 1080p/60fps.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Clever, clever.
Wishmaster92
Member
FUCK YES BRING IT!!!!!
Whelp, I guess I was wrong in my initial impression then. In that case, I think a lot of this has been misinterpreted about it being an actual substantial hardware upgrade for 4k gaming and it's more likely just a hardware revision for HDMI 2.0+ and 4k output if it's coming out in 2016.
Because whatever personal problems you have with the PS4's UI are caused by a lack of processing power?
Beerman462
Member
What if it's just a pure luxury item not targeted at mainstream that costs a grand and just plays PS4 games at 4K and PSVR games at a native 120hz?
StoneHeart
Member
Just do it
hemo memo
Gold Member
Patrick Klepek
furiously molesting tim burton
A mixture of confusion and "well, this is how other tech works." I don't know that there's enough information to understand what this means quite yet. It's a huge shift. Between this and VR, things are weird.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Jeff_Rigby redeamed?
