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Kotaku [sources]: About those Xbox One vs. PS4 graphics rumors...

Ebomb said:
I sense I am being baited here, or that this post was a humor post at my expense, or both. A substantive reply here is probably unwarranted.
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I am not baiting you, merely using an extreme, absurd example to bring that argument to its logical conclusion. Which is: merely including something in the box is not enough to prove value to someone. It must have utility to that individual.
 
Amir0x said:
I am not baiting you, merely using an extreme, absurd example to bring that argument to its logical conclusion. Which is: merely including something in the box is not enough to prove value to someone. It must have utility to that individual.
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Considering that Kinet is basically a 100$ OS hands free remote (at launch), I don't see how it has any substantial value at all.
 
Can Crusher said:
Considering that Kinet is basically a 100$ OS hands free remote (at launch), I don't see how it has any substantial value at all.
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i mean for some people it has value, others it doesn't. But just saying "it has Kinect, you must consider that a value" is not really an argument. Would you agree?
 
Just to make something clear... This was Stephen's interpretation, from his own research and conversations with developer sources, of the rumors that have been floating around over the past week about resolution and graphical disparities.

Long-term, we plan to continue researching and talking to developers about how the PS4's power advantages will affect the multiplatform games we get to play. This isn't a question that will go away, nor is it one that we can answer three weeks before the systems even launch. It's a story I plan on following for years to come.
 
MoeB said:
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Ebomb said:
Didn't say "essential" said "value". Its in the box, it wasn't free to produce, it adds functionality not present without it. You may not value it's value, but arguing it has no objective value is disingenuous.
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It costing resources to produce has no bearing on its value to consumers. To consumers, they have made a poor case.
 
jschreier said:
Just to make something clear... This was Stephen's interpretation, from his own research and conversations with developer sources, of the rumors that have been floating around over the past week about resolution and graphical disparities.

Long-term, we plan to continue researching and talking to developers about how the PS4's power advantages will affect the multiplatform games we get to play. This isn't a question that will go away, nor is it one that we can answer three weeks before the systems even launch. It's a story I plan on following for years to come.
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Great to hear from our resident press sneak fuck :D

I use that term with as much endearment as possible
 
jschreier said:
Just to make something clear... This was Stephen's interpretation, from his own research and conversations with developer sources, of the rumors that have been floating around over the past week about resolution and graphical disparities.

Long-term, we plan to continue researching and talking to developers about how the PS4's power advantages will affect the multiplatform games we get to play. This isn't a question that will go away, nor is it one that we can answer three weeks before the systems even launch. It's a story I plan on following for years to come.
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Both of you are doing a great job. Keep it up :D
 
jschreier said:
Just to make something clear... This was Stephen's interpretation, from his own research and conversations with developer sources, of the rumors that have been floating around over the past week about resolution and graphical disparities.

Long-term, we plan to continue researching and talking to developers about how the PS4's power advantages will affect the multiplatform games we get to play. This isn't a question that will go away, nor is it one that we can answer three weeks before the systems even launch. It's a story I plan on following for years to come.
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Godspeed.
 
Y2Kev said:
Xbox One and PS4 are like different types of Subway sandwiches, but honestly the Xbox One is an Italian BMT while the PS4 is a Chicken Teriyaki club. The problem with the Xbox One right now is that the server doesn’t know how to use the toaster, so every time he puts the Italian bread into the toaster, it literally catches on fire and burns the entire Subway down. So you’re standing there, waiting for your sub sandwich, the clerk is screaming, “AHHH! AHHH! SOMEONE HELP ME! MY HAIR IS ON FIRE AHHH!” and you’re like, “I’d like to have my sandwich please,” but the clerk is just running around literally with his head on fire screaming, “I NEED MY SANDWICH FELLOWS!” So he goes into the back room to get his Sandwich Fellows but the Sandwich Fellows just make it worse because they don’t actually exist.

Anyway, the Subway is now completely on fire and the clerk has his head in the sink. So finally, his hair is no longer on fire but now there is fire extinguisher exhaust literally everywhere on the sub ingredient area. So you tell the clerk you don’t really want a sub anymore but he holds a knife to your throat and is like, “I WILL CUT YOU!” so you have to learn to balance the special needs of the clerk with whatever your natural desire to have a sandwich is. Eventually, you say, ok, it’s “good enough,” so you order the Italian BMT with extra olives and peppers. But when the clerk, now with no hair and with a knife pointed squarely at your throat, goes over to the olives he realizes there ARE NO MORE OLIVES LEFT OVER BECAUSE THEY ALL BURNED DOWN so he goes on Twitter and asks Polygon to start spreading rumors that you NEVER ACTUALLY ORDERED olives. When you say you wanted olives and show the clerk video from the security feed of yourself ordering olives, he literally walks you outside the store and starts beating you over the head with the Italian bread (which is of course burnt since it was on fire). Eventually you say fine, I’m done with this shit and the Polygon twitter bans you anyway because you don’t understand how the industry works.

Meanwhile the PS4 is like walking up to the counter and there is a really sexy dude and/or lady behind the counter wearing a perfectly tailored suit and/or pantsuit. You go to order the sub but the clerk already knows what you want and he/she is already making it. And you say, “How did you know that?” and it turns out the clerk is actually @yosp and he has four arms, two of which belong to David Cage (who is standing behind @yosp). So you walk out of the Subway and you are like, “Wow, that was surprising,” and there, on the other side of the street, is the guy being beat over the head with the burnt Italian bread by the clerk with the building on fire and you’re like, oh. This makes perfect sense.
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This is just awesome lol
 
jschreier said:
Just to make something clear... This was Stephen's interpretation, from his own research and conversations with developer sources, of the rumors that have been floating around over the past week about resolution and graphical disparities.

Long-term, we plan to continue researching and talking to developers about how the PS4's power advantages will affect the multiplatform games we get to play. This isn't a question that will go away, nor is it one that we can answer three weeks before the systems even launch. It's a story I plan on following for years to come.
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Please comment on whether you prefer chicken teriyaki or the Italian bmt
 
jschreier said:
Just to make something clear... This was Stephen's interpretation, from his own research and conversations with developer sources, of the rumors that have been floating around over the past week about resolution and graphical disparities.

Long-term, we plan to continue researching and talking to developers about how the PS4's power advantages will affect the multiplatform games we get to play. This isn't a question that will go away, nor is it one that we can answer three weeks before the systems even launch. It's a story I plan on following for years to come.
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Thanks sneak fuck.

but seriously, thanks Jason for covering this in a reasonable and intelligent manner.

Y2Kev said:
Xbox One and PS4 are like different types of Subway sandwiches, but honestly the Xbox One is an Italian BMT while the PS4 is a Chicken Teriyaki club. The problem with the Xbox One right now is that the server doesn’t know how to use the toaster, so every time he puts the Italian bread into the toaster, it literally catches on fire and burns the entire Subway down. So you’re standing there, waiting for your sub sandwich, the clerk is screaming, “AHHH! AHHH! SOMEONE HELP ME! MY HAIR IS ON FIRE AHHH!” and you’re like, “I’d like to have my sandwich please,” but the clerk is just running around literally with his head on fire screaming, “I NEED MY SANDWICH FELLOWS!” So he goes into the back room to get his Sandwich Fellows but the Sandwich Fellows just make it worse because they don’t actually exist.

Anyway, the Subway is now completely on fire and the clerk has his head in the sink. So finally, his hair is no longer on fire but now there is fire extinguisher exhaust literally everywhere on the sub ingredient area. So you tell the clerk you don’t really want a sub anymore but he holds a knife to your throat and is like, “I WILL CUT YOU!” so you have to learn to balance the special needs of the clerk with whatever your natural desire to have a sandwich is. Eventually, you say, ok, it’s “good enough,” so you order the Italian BMT with extra olives and peppers. But when the clerk, now with no hair and with a knife pointed squarely at your throat, goes over to the olives he realizes there ARE NO MORE OLIVES LEFT OVER BECAUSE THEY ALL BURNED DOWN so he goes on Twitter and asks Polygon to start spreading rumors that you NEVER ACTUALLY ORDERED olives. When you say you wanted olives and show the clerk video from the security feed of yourself ordering olives, he literally walks you outside the store and starts beating you over the head with the Italian bread (which is of course burnt since it was on fire). Eventually you say fine, I’m done with this shit and the Polygon twitter bans you anyway because you don’t understand how the industry works.

Meanwhile the PS4 is like walking up to the counter and there is a really sexy dude and/or lady behind the counter wearing a perfectly tailored suit and/or pantsuit. You go to order the sub but the clerk already knows what you want and he/she is already making it. And you say, “How did you know that?” and it turns out the clerk is actually @yosp and he has four arms, two of which belong to David Cage (who is standing behind @yosp). So you walk out of the Subway and you are like, “Wow, that was surprising,” and there, on the other side of the street, is the guy being beat over the head with the burnt Italian bread by the clerk with the building on fire and you’re like, oh. This makes perfect sense.
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slow clap
 
Same excuse we've been hearing for a while, but I don't see the Xbone to PS3 comparisons. The issues are nothing alike, cell was a headache, split RAM was a headache.
 
PS4 has 1.5x (50%) more GPU Flops / shader / compute performance and ROUGHLY twice the pixel fillrate as XBone.

Yet, things are even more lopsided when you look at fillrate.

PS4 GPU has 32 ROPs vs XBone GPU's 16 ROPs (aka pixel pipelines in old school terms) resulting in PS4 GPU being able to output twice the pixels per GPU clock.

Not knowing the final GPU clocks of the final hardware, I am just going to assume for a moment that PS4 GPU is 800 MHz and XBone GPU is 850 MHz.

PS4 GPU: 800 MHz * 32 ROPs is: 25,600 Mpixels/sec aka 25.6 Gpixels/sec
XBone GPU: 850 MHz * 16 ROPs is: 13,600 Mpixels/sec aka 13.6 Gpixels/sec


So PS4 has nearly double the fillrate.

Whatever the actual, final GPU clockspeeds are, it won't things things much, because 32 ROPs vs 16 ROPs.

Developers can spend that in a number of ways. Higher native resolution, higher/smoother framerate, among other things.

It seems DICE spent at least some of PS4's extra fillrate on both the native res (900p) and a more consistent framerate in BF4.

I'd imagine PS4's roughly 2x fillrate also helped CoD Ghosts reach native 1080p, while the XBone version is native 720p, at least for now.

So while PS4 has about 50% more GPU power, the real headliner should be it has roughly double the fillrate to spend that XBone does.

Couple that with PS4's FAR higher main memory bandwidth, where Xbone has to use the complex unfriendly ESRAM in order to try to catch up...
 
AstroNut325 said:
False equivalency. Spending that extra $200 got you a blu-ray player and other tech AND backwards compatibility. Spending that extra $100 on the X1 is not getting you an equivalent value in tech... in my opinion.
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Well you do get Kinect voice commands and motion technology. Stuff like XBOX fitness could be cool. And I'm sure the next Dance Central isn't far behind.
 
Y2Kev said:
Xbox One and PS4 are like different types of Subway sandwiches, but honestly the Xbox One is an Italian BMT while the PS4 is a Chicken Teriyaki club. The problem with the Xbox One right now is that the server doesn’t know how to use the toaster, so every time he puts the Italian bread into the toaster, it literally catches on fire and burns the entire Subway down. So you’re standing there, waiting for your sub sandwich, the clerk is screaming, “AHHH! AHHH! SOMEONE HELP ME! MY HAIR IS ON FIRE AHHH!” and you’re like, “I’d like to have my sandwich please,” but the clerk is just running around literally with his head on fire screaming, “I NEED MY SANDWICH FELLOWS!” So he goes into the back room to get his Sandwich Fellows but the Sandwich Fellows just make it worse because they don’t actually exist.

Anyway, the Subway is now completely on fire and the clerk has his head in the sink. So finally, his hair is no longer on fire but now there is fire extinguisher exhaust literally everywhere on the sub ingredient area. So you tell the clerk you don’t really want a sub anymore but he holds a knife to your throat and is like, “I WILL CUT YOU!” so you have to learn to balance the special needs of the clerk with whatever your natural desire to have a sandwich is. Eventually, you say, ok, it’s “good enough,” so you order the Italian BMT with extra olives and peppers. But when the clerk, now with no hair and with a knife pointed squarely at your throat, goes over to the olives he realizes there ARE NO MORE OLIVES LEFT OVER BECAUSE THEY ALL BURNED DOWN so he goes on Twitter and asks Polygon to start spreading rumors that you NEVER ACTUALLY ORDERED olives. When you say you wanted olives and show the clerk video from the security feed of yourself ordering olives, he literally walks you outside the store and starts beating you over the head with the Italian bread (which is of course burnt since it was on fire). Eventually you say fine, I’m done with this shit and the Polygon twitter bans you anyway because you don’t understand how the industry works.

Meanwhile the PS4 is like walking up to the counter and there is a really sexy dude and/or lady behind the counter wearing a perfectly tailored suit and/or pantsuit. You go to order the sub but the clerk already knows what you want and he/she is already making it. And you say, “How did you know that?” and it turns out the clerk is actually @yosp and he has four arms, two of which belong to David Cage (who is standing behind @yosp). So you walk out of the Subway and you are like, “Wow, that was surprising,” and there, on the other side of the street, is the guy being beat over the head with the burnt Italian bread by the clerk with the building on fire and you’re like, oh. This makes perfect sense.
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Best thing i've read today.
 
jschreier said:
Just to make something clear... This was Stephen's interpretation, from his own research and conversations with developer sources, of the rumors that have been floating around over the past week about resolution and graphical disparities.

Long-term, we plan to continue researching and talking to developers about how the PS4's power advantages will affect the multiplatform games we get to play. This isn't a question that will go away, nor is it one that we can answer three weeks before the systems even launch. It's a story I plan on following for years to come.
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I think both consoles will improve but PS4's advantage will always be there.

Even if the SW isn't as mature on Xbox there is also lots of optimizations to do on PS4 as well.

The research on Stephen's part is appreciated.
 
Albert Penello if you're lurking I'd love your insight on this. What is keeping the XBOX One from hitting native 1080p currently on these multiplats? Is it the eSRAM, the GPU, or just the development tools?
 
Y2Kev said:
Xbox One and PS4 are like different types of Subway sandwiches, but honestly the Xbox One is an Italian BMT while the PS4 is a Chicken Teriyaki club. The problem with the Xbox One right now is that the server doesn’t know how to use the toaster, so every time he puts the Italian bread into the toaster, it literally catches on fire and burns the entire Subway down. So you’re standing there, waiting for your sub sandwich, the clerk is screaming, “AHHH! AHHH! SOMEONE HELP ME! MY HAIR IS ON FIRE AHHH!” and you’re like, “I’d like to have my sandwich please,” but the clerk is just running around literally with his head on fire screaming, “I NEED MY SANDWICH FELLOWS!” So he goes into the back room to get his Sandwich Fellows but the Sandwich Fellows just make it worse because they don’t actually exist.

Anyway, the Subway is now completely on fire and the clerk has his head in the sink. So finally, his hair is no longer on fire but now there is fire extinguisher exhaust literally everywhere on the sub ingredient area. So you tell the clerk you don’t really want a sub anymore but he holds a knife to your throat and is like, “I WILL CUT YOU!” so you have to learn to balance the special needs of the clerk with whatever your natural desire to have a sandwich is. Eventually, you say, ok, it’s “good enough,” so you order the Italian BMT with extra olives and peppers. But when the clerk, now with no hair and with a knife pointed squarely at your throat, goes over to the olives he realizes there ARE NO MORE OLIVES LEFT OVER BECAUSE THEY ALL BURNED DOWN so he goes on Twitter and asks Polygon to start spreading rumors that you NEVER ACTUALLY ORDERED olives. When you say you wanted olives and show the clerk video from the security feed of yourself ordering olives, he literally walks you outside the store and starts beating you over the head with the Italian bread (which is of course burnt since it was on fire). Eventually you say fine, I’m done with this shit and the Polygon twitter bans you anyway because you don’t understand how the industry works.

Meanwhile the PS4 is like walking up to the counter and there is a really sexy dude and/or lady behind the counter wearing a perfectly tailored suit and/or pantsuit. You go to order the sub but the clerk already knows what you want and he/she is already making it. And you say, “How did you know that?” and it turns out the clerk is actually @yosp and he has four arms, two of which belong to David Cage (who is standing behind @yosp). So you walk out of the Subway and you are like, “Wow, that was surprising,” and there, on the other side of the street, is the guy being beat over the head with the burnt Italian bread by the clerk with the building on fire and you’re like, oh. This makes perfect sense.
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so, what your saying is, we should just order Quiznos instead?

Captain Tuttle said:
Amazing. Seriously, I'm floored
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I can't take credit for it. It is a thing of beauty though.
 
Kinect is like the last resort for Xbox fans, it's embarrassing to watch. what a tremendous "value" Kinect offer !


also people bringing PS3 BD into the mix! funny, comparing the next gen storage format to a useless camera with gimmicks that can be done on my phone.
 
Y2Kev said:
Xbox One and PS4 are like different types of Subway sandwiches, but honestly the Xbox One is an Italian BMT while the PS4 is a Chicken Teriyaki club. The problem with the Xbox One right now is that the server doesn’t know how to use the toaster, so every time he puts the Italian bread into the toaster, it literally catches on fire and burns the entire Subway down. So you’re standing there, waiting for your sub sandwich, the clerk is screaming, “AHHH! AHHH! SOMEONE HELP ME! MY HAIR IS ON FIRE AHHH!” and you’re like, “I’d like to have my sandwich please,” but the clerk is just running around literally with his head on fire screaming, “I NEED MY SANDWICH FELLOWS!” So he goes into the back room to get his Sandwich Fellows but the Sandwich Fellows just make it worse because they don’t actually exist.

Anyway, the Subway is now completely on fire and the clerk has his head in the sink. So finally, his hair is no longer on fire but now there is fire extinguisher exhaust literally everywhere on the sub ingredient area. So you tell the clerk you don’t really want a sub anymore but he holds a knife to your throat and is like, “I WILL CUT YOU!” so you have to learn to balance the special needs of the clerk with whatever your natural desire to have a sandwich is. Eventually, you say, ok, it’s “good enough,” so you order the Italian BMT with extra olives and peppers. But when the clerk, now with no hair and with a knife pointed squarely at your throat, goes over to the olives he realizes there ARE NO MORE OLIVES LEFT OVER BECAUSE THEY ALL BURNED DOWN so he goes on Twitter and asks Polygon to start spreading rumors that you NEVER ACTUALLY ORDERED olives. When you say you wanted olives and show the clerk video from the security feed of yourself ordering olives, he literally walks you outside the store and starts beating you over the head with the Italian bread (which is of course burnt since it was on fire). Eventually you say fine, I’m done with this shit and the Polygon twitter bans you anyway because you don’t understand how the industry works.

Meanwhile the PS4 is like walking up to the counter and there is a really sexy dude and/or lady behind the counter wearing a perfectly tailored suit and/or pantsuit. You go to order the sub but the clerk already knows what you want and he/she is already making it. And you say, “How did you know that?” and it turns out the clerk is actually @yosp and he has four arms, two of which belong to David Cage (who is standing behind @yosp). So you walk out of the Subway and you are like, “Wow, that was surprising,” and there, on the other side of the street, is the guy being beat over the head with the burnt Italian bread by the clerk with the building on fire and you’re like, oh. This makes perfect sense.
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Awesome post xD

Tweeted a link to this to @yosp. His reply was just (O_O). So, I guess that means he finds it pretty amazing too :P

https://twitter.com/yosp/status/395306266957852673
 
Sanke__ said:
Because we all know bethesda eventually got over the issues they had with the ps3...
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Yeah, and it took Rockstar nearly the entire generation to figure out the PS3. Max Payne 3 was close while the PS3 version of GTAV ended up being slightly better. But before that they'd release multiple games where the gap between the PS3 and 360 versions were pretty big.
 
TAJ said:
I used to play on a 1,680x1,050 monitor. Now I play on a 1,920x1,080 TV.
If I boot up a game that I forgot to change to 1080p I can tell just by playing it.
Yes, really.
Hell, I can watch a good 1080p source and tell if someone's not using 1:1 pixel mapping on their TV.
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yep this was what i was thinking. its really strange that people claim that they won't be able to tell the difference. when i used to be a pc gamer...my goal whenever i played was to be able to run games at the native resolution of my monitor at the highest settings possible. if you had to drop down in resolution it was immediately noticeable by the lack in clarity and softer image. playing at native always looked better than having it at a lower resolution upscaled, even if i could do things like turn on more AA
 
SolidSnakex said:
Yeah, and it took Rockstar nearly the entire generation to figure out the PS3. Max Payne 3 was close while the PS3 version of GTAV ended up being slightly better. But before that they'd release multiple games where the gap between the PS3 and 360 versions were pretty big.
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Actually RDR and LA Noire (though not really R*) were both very comparable on PS3. The only black cloud from R* really was the utter horrible crap that was GTAIV.
 
jschreier said:
I wouldn't buy either until months after the sub shop opens, when things are more stable. Then I'll pick whichever sub has the best... uh... JRPG-flavored toppings.
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I'm on the same boat as you are, I love me some console JRPG goodness and I'd rather watch the mayhem than be part of it.
 
Y2Kev said:
Xbox One and PS4 are like different types of Subway sandwiches, but honestly the Xbox One is an Italian BMT while the PS4 is a Chicken Teriyaki club. The problem with the Xbox One right now is that the server doesn’t know how to use the toaster, so every time he puts the Italian bread into the toaster, it literally catches on fire and burns the entire Subway down. So you’re standing there, waiting for your sub sandwich, the clerk is screaming, “AHHH! AHHH! SOMEONE HELP ME! MY HAIR IS ON FIRE AHHH!” and you’re like, “I’d like to have my sandwich please,” but the clerk is just running around literally with his head on fire screaming, “I NEED MY SANDWICH FELLOWS!” So he goes into the back room to get his Sandwich Fellows but the Sandwich Fellows just make it worse because they don’t actually exist.

Anyway, the Subway is now completely on fire and the clerk has his head in the sink. So finally, his hair is no longer on fire but now there is fire extinguisher exhaust literally everywhere on the sub ingredient area. So you tell the clerk you don’t really want a sub anymore but he holds a knife to your throat and is like, “I WILL CUT YOU!” so you have to learn to balance the special needs of the clerk with whatever your natural desire to have a sandwich is. Eventually, you say, ok, it’s “good enough,” so you order the Italian BMT with extra olives and peppers. But when the clerk, now with no hair and with a knife pointed squarely at your throat, goes over to the olives he realizes there ARE NO MORE OLIVES LEFT OVER BECAUSE THEY ALL BURNED DOWN so he goes on Twitter and asks Polygon to start spreading rumors that you NEVER ACTUALLY ORDERED olives. When you say you wanted olives and show the clerk video from the security feed of yourself ordering olives, he literally walks you outside the store and starts beating you over the head with the Italian bread (which is of course burnt since it was on fire). Eventually you say fine, I’m done with this shit and the Polygon twitter bans you anyway because you don’t understand how the industry works.

Meanwhile the PS4 is like walking up to the counter and there is a really sexy dude and/or lady behind the counter wearing a perfectly tailored suit and/or pantsuit. You go to order the sub but the clerk already knows what you want and he/she is already making it. And you say, “How did you know that?” and it turns out the clerk is actually @yosp and he has four arms, two of which belong to David Cage (who is standing behind @yosp). So you walk out of the Subway and you are like, “Wow, that was surprising,” and there, on the other side of the street, is the guy being beat over the head with the burnt Italian bread by the clerk with the building on fire and you’re like, oh. This makes perfect sense.
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Now if you could add some bacon to that teriyaki...


SurgicalSlinky said:
Awesome post xD

Tweeted a link to this to @yosp. His reply was just (O_O). So, I guess that means he finds it pretty amazing too :P

https://twitter.com/yosp/status/395306266957852673
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Now we all know he's actually doing this

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Wii U gets 720p too right?

Does this mean that since the Wii U is being called a souped up 360 that the XBone is the same? Lol you Xbro "next gen" MS parrots are getting funnier and funnier.
 
Skilletor said:
In this world where XB1 catches up with the PS4, do people not think that others will also improve on PS4...or does ps4 grow stagnant while XB1 improves?
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This. So convenient these editors seem to forget that both consoles will advance in capabilities as the gen goes on, but seem to be trying their damnest to convince people PS4 is already fully tapped out simply due to it being "easier to develop for".

I recall PS1 and 360 being similar, but the games kept getting more visually advanced on both as their gens went on.
 
borghe said:
Actually RDR and LA Noire (though not really R*) were both very comparable on PS3. The only black cloud from R* really was the utter horrible crap that was GTAIV.
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RDR was still pretty rough on the PS3 due to it running in sub-HD

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Midnight Club was the worst though. 720p on the 360 and 960x720 on the PS3.
 
IN&OUT said:
Kinect is like the last resort for Xbox fans, it's embarrassing to watch. what a tremendous "value" Kinect offer !


also people bringing PS3 BD into the mix! funny, comparing the next gen storage format to a useless camera with gimmicks that can be done on my phone.
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How much does you phone cost?
 
ComputerMKII said:
Why paying $100 more for worse resolution?
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There are different games on the platforms. If console bragging rights are the only thing important to a person then your choice is simple. Pick up a PS4 However, there are different games on different platforms, ones you can't get anywhere else, and in such circumstances, you can't fault a lot of people for not really caring much about the power differences. The games themselves, and not a silly competition between two platforms is a lot more important to a lot of people, as are other bunch of other things such as features or services that they like, friends getting the system etc.

Resolution isn't the be all and end all of having fun with a videogame, and it's amazing how easy it is for people to forget that.

Cyborg said:
You need to pay for friends?
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You mean to tell me that isn't how you get friends? :P
 
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