Dangansona
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I was going to say, don't really care about Quantum Break either way but the headline frustrates me.
Edit: fair points made in the article though.
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Kotaku: Unfortunately, Quantum Break Looks a Bit Rubbish
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I was going to say, don't really care about Quantum Break either way but the headline frustrates me.
Edit: fair points made in the article though.
Well, depends on the player. For me The Order was a fun game, but it had almost too many shootin parts. From what i can tell QB has A LOT of shooting, this could make the game not fun for me. I don't like shooters.
burger_shot56
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no, there are like 4 episodes(20 minute each) for the whole game. Don't understand concerns about how it will "terribly interrupt" gameplay.
General Lee
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I expect this to be of similar level of quality as Alan Wake was. A good third person shooter with an enjoyable story, but nothing ground breaking. I do wonder how the live action parts are going to work out, but at least they've got a good cast going so that reassures me it won't be total garbage.
Important for people who keep questioning why the journo changed his opinion.
If it has levels like MP1 and 2 I will be more than happy.
If it has levels like MP1 and 2 I will be more than happy.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
So like, you'd rather The Order have been one long cutscene?
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Missile Defense
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But that is kind of a hard opinion for others to understand seeing as how it appears that a large portion of the game is composed of game cinematics and story telling segments in addition to the live action TV show that is mixed into the game. Everything we know about past Remedy games tells us that is precisely the case this time around as well. Hell, why would there be a TV show attached if not?
Everything we have seen from the game would infer the opposite of what you are suggesting. This is a story focused game, which for obvious reasons has been kept under wraps (spoilers) while each demo of the game has tried to focus on the cool powers and shooter gameplay, also for obvious reasons (they have to get the attention of the action game crowd and make a big splash, etc.) and yet each demo starts with a story segment before the action actually begins.
It seems to me that this is clearly a deeply story driven game that focuses on pacing between action and story telling elements not just because that is precisely what Remedy does well and has basically said they are trying to perfect but because everything shown thus far would indicate exactly that.
I do not however discount your point of view as you have seen it. Maybe you just filtered out all the story elements and focused on the shooting gameplay.
Friendly advice : You should go back a few pages to read the moderation stance on what you're asking.
Then maybe edit your post.
Cthulhu_Steev
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Just try and recall the posting history and console preference of those posters and then realise why they PS4 version was let fly, but the xbone parody tipped the salt pot right over. Pretty hilarious.
They specifically said calling for a site ban because they have a different opinion. I don't care either way about Quantum Break, I don't have and won't be getting an Xbone. I think Kotaku are a shitty site, who can't stop posting awful titles to their awful articles.
It's incredible how after 10 pages of users getting banned for Kotaku bashing shitposting, people are still lining up to the slaughter.
It's incredible how after 10 pages of users getting banned for Kotaku bashing shitposting, people are still lining up to the slaughter.
"Don't post your opinion or you'll get banned."
Chance Hale
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It's upsetting that Max Payne 3 might have the best gunplay and hit reactions of any third person shooter for years to come because euphoria is dead, no one can match Rockstar's budget, and it doesn't seem like they're going to ever make another Max Payne game :/
boredandlazy
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Heh.
thekiddfran
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I didnt like the constant slowing down of time. I wish it was used more sparingly TBH
I'm literally LOL'ing at work at hiex getting completely wrecked. "Why can't I post ad hominems? Why?"
Personally, I completely disagree with the author of the Kotaku article. But I think what's nice is what another poster commented on: Everything the author is describing actually sounds awesome. So at the very least he is accurately describing the game, and then imposing his own subjective interpretation of those qualities, which is fine but I vehemently disagree with him. I.E. "Again, special enemies who specifically counter your abilities is nothing new" - that sentence mystifies me. Why is it a negative that something like this is nothing new? I like the idea that you won't always be nearly invincible and will occasionally encounter enemies that nullify or counter your time abilities.
Personally, I completely disagree with the author of the Kotaku article. But I think what's nice is what another poster commented on: Everything the author is describing actually sounds awesome. So at the very least he is accurately describing the game, and then imposing his own subjective interpretation of those qualities, which is fine but I vehemently disagree with him. I.E. "Again, special enemies who specifically counter your abilities is nothing new" - that sentence mystifies me. Why is it a negative that something like this is nothing new? I like the idea that you won't always be nearly invincible and will occasionally encounter enemies that nullify or counter your time abilities.
You CAN skip them if you want. Confirmed by Sam Lake.
Most people care about their pay checks, but as long as they done the job right then no one cares.
I believe Quantum Break will be a great game. I have faith in Remedy!
Wowzers, thread is a grave yard.
Anyways I always thought QB looked neat if a little uninspired story wise.
The characters will make or break this game probably.
Also I'm a little adverse to the idea of 20 minute "episodes" between chapters even if they can be skipped. No one enjoys missing story elements but 20 minutes with the controller down seems a tad excessive.
Sure the game will at least turn out decent, I like the time mechanics implemented
even though they look by the numbers i.e. something seen before.
Anyways I always thought QB looked neat if a little uninspired story wise.
The characters will make or break this game probably.
Also I'm a little adverse to the idea of 20 minute "episodes" between chapters even if they can be skipped. No one enjoys missing story elements but 20 minutes with the controller down seems a tad excessive.
Sure the game will at least turn out decent, I like the time mechanics implemented
even though they look by the numbers i.e. something seen before.
NoMoChokeSJ
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Quick!!! Hurry up and throw a dig in before the thread gets locked.. lol. But whatever you do, don't actually read about the game.
Sam Lake said that you can skip the episodes and that they focus alot on the character development of the villian. This has been stated multiple times.
And personally, I am happy to see actual production value and professional actors take part in these products. It only improves the overall presentation and solidifies video games as an entertainmentioned medium.
Maybe you would prefer then enlist the wonderful dub actors from the JRPGS of years past instead.
Ovek
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Sure, so your option is to basically stop playing for 20 minutes per chapter or miss out on 80 minutes of the story.
What?
Halph n Halph
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Work and family life ensure I have limited time to enjoy gaming. Having to sit through 80 minutes of film during the short window of time I get or miss the whole story is enough to put me off completely.
That doesn't mean I think it will be a bad game, but, I can't say I saw anything to make me think it will be great either.
Haha it doesn't work quite that way in Max Payne because he slows down too in bullet time
anothertech
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I enjoyed Alan Wake and Max Payne. Also personally enjoyed the Order.
I'll probably like this game mostly for the eye candy, but I can see where the opinion in the article is stemmed.
I feel like a lot of people were really hoping for breakthrough gameplay along with fresh takes on the time shift mechanics. I just never expected that from what I saw, and I try to be very reserved in my expectations of games in that regard.
It looks more like they are playing it pretty safe from a gameplay perspective, which is understandable but kind of a bummer.
Using live action film for story telling tho? That's an interesting choice. Really hope they went all out on the writing, or that could be its downfall, still remaining hopeful at this point though.
I'll probably like this game mostly for the eye candy, but I can see where the opinion in the article is stemmed.
I feel like a lot of people were really hoping for breakthrough gameplay along with fresh takes on the time shift mechanics. I just never expected that from what I saw, and I try to be very reserved in my expectations of games in that regard.
It looks more like they are playing it pretty safe from a gameplay perspective, which is understandable but kind of a bummer.
Using live action film for story telling tho? That's an interesting choice. Really hope they went all out on the writing, or that could be its downfall, still remaining hopeful at this point though.
It just seems like yet another step away from video games as an interactive medium and towards one that keeps imitating movies and TV. 20 minutes per episode is a very long time. Sure, you could just skip it, but the time and creativity of the developers should be spent within the game imo.
Uhh... you know Alan Wake was also 90% shooting. The other 10 being split between driving and looking for thermoses. Not sure what detective stuff you're referring to.
+ staring at apples
Bitch Pudding
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It seems a bit Infamous. Have some cool abilities that lets you deal with normal SWAT style enemies, then jacked up special guys turn up wearing weird backpacks to match your abilities.
I don't think I'm disappointed though. I like a good TPS game, and this looks like it could be good. I wasn't sure what it was going to be when they first revealed it, so I haven't created any unfulfillable fantasy game in my head, so I can't be disappointed it doesn't meet those expectations.
I hope they keep some of that time scrubbing/puzzle/detective stuff in there, like they showed before.that looked really interesting.
Same. I suppose Remedy set themselves up for some criticism when they first showed the game, talking about it being alongside this TV series and how he game will change how the TV show pans out. Amidst all the MS talk of TVTVTV and cross media shit it perhaps did feel like we'd get something new and exciting.
Also, it is a new IP. We don't get a ton of those, so they automatically get measured against an invisible 'innovation meter'. They have to do something new or suddenly everyone is disappointed. Personally I find the characters, story and setting in a game can be as interesting as the mechanics. So I'm ok with 'same old same old' gameplay if it beings something interesting to the table in other areas. Likewise innovation for the sake of it can leave me cold.
Aren't there only supposed to be 7 different types of stories? And not that many musical notes. Yet we still get a huge amount of variety in writing and music. Maybe there are only 7 types of gameplay and we should be less critical of 'lack of innovation' in mechanics as long as the game delivers something entertaining.
Miles Quaritch
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The game only has four chapters?
Is there still a TV show? They keep using the phrase, but a TV show suggest a parallel thing that is broadcast on TV (or something like Netflix) that you can consume entirely independently of the game. Four 22 minute clips in the game sounds more like four long cutscene than a 'TV series'
Ooh, what's the story here? Or just something boring like a change of strategy/budget cut?
Ooh, what's the story here? Or just something boring like a change of strategy/budget cut?
Miles Quaritch
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I don't know if it was ever a TV series like Humans. It was always planned to ship on the disc and it provides a lot of backstory to the characters as well as allowing the player to make some choices that will have an impact on the game.
It's essentially a live action version of MGS cut-scenes. Lots of exposition, lots of chattering, lots of story development. The only difference being that the 'cut scenes' here supposedly have an impact on the game.
It's the latter and they've always said that it will all be on the disc. It's not a traditional TV show that will be broadcast though.
edit: beaten by Miles
So for QB to be decent, they just need to focus on the gameplay. I am sure the story/plot will be good based on their previous games.
Like for Alan Wake, interesting story/plot overall, and using his career as a plot device was a good idea for his mental stage, but those gameplay moments...Ironically, I would rather watch a 3hrs AW movie for the story instead.
Like for Alan Wake, interesting story/plot overall, and using his career as a plot device was a good idea for his mental stage, but those gameplay moments...Ironically, I would rather watch a 3hrs AW movie for the story instead.
Caipirinha
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I guess it's time for Xbone owners to go through The Ordeal.
Bitch Pudding
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Ha!
QB is one of the games that might me get an XBone next year. It doesn't have to look as polished like an Uncharted, and yes, most of it's features have been seen before. But you can say the same about The last of us. But the composition of those features and the story was really great. So, maybe QB will accomplish the same, just with other features and another style of story telling.
Magic Mushroom
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Didn't know Eurphoria is dead.
Shame. In terms of pure gunplay, Max Payne 3 is the GOAT,
SpongyRug10
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Quick question. I totally respect the writers opinions, it's a free world after all. That said, why does this article deserve a thread & all other articles with positive opinions get little to no attention and/or threads?
Yaphett Kotto
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I knew QB was bringing back some memories of a certain game.
Because positivity isn't controversial and controversy brings more debate.
I don't get the comparisons to The Order, which is a third-person cover shooter. The Order reminds me more of Gears Of War, but set in a Victorian London environment.
Quantum Break looks like it fuses the coolest parts of both Max Payne (slow-motion gunplay) and Alan Wake (mysterious science fiction storytelling). When I think of Quantum Break I think of Max Payne and Alan Wake, (which is fitting since both are Remedy games), not The Order.
Quantum Break looks like it fuses the coolest parts of both Max Payne (slow-motion gunplay) and Alan Wake (mysterious science fiction storytelling). When I think of Quantum Break I think of Max Payne and Alan Wake, (which is fitting since both are Remedy games), not The Order.
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